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Experience with sending Police certificate AFTER the rest of the package?

cillyx5

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I've heard around that some people are sending their completed package MINUS the police certificates (since they are taking 12-14 weeks), with a note explaining that it'll get sent in when received.

Does anyone have any experience with this?
 

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I've done it, but I only just sent my application January 29th. I'm still waiting on AOR and SA. I'll keep you posted though on mine. It looks like I'll be hearing from them sometime this month at the current pace. My police clearance was supposed to be mailed to me March 10th, so I'm still waiting on it. I submitted my fingerprints to them November 18th!
 

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many people do this. cic seems to be looking the other way and issues sa without it. it is not a necessary document for approving the sponsor. generally, the SA letter received will include instructions about how to send it to your visa office.
 

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rhcohen2014 said:
many people do this. cic seems to be looking the other way and issues sa without it. it is not a necessary document for approving the sponsor. generally, the SA letter received will include instructions about how to send it to your visa office.
Yes this happened In my case
I have received SA and my application is sent to London visa office
I am sponsoring my husband so his police clearance came in the mail after we submitted our application

I am unsure about if I should send it now to the London office as they said if you have additional documents send it here.. obviously il be sending the original clearance but I am scared it will be lost
should I wait until they ask for it becauase i dont first wabt to wait for themto check abd then find some readon to delay the whole process by asking me which will require weeks ( since i wouod have to mail it and then they would check it ) or should I just send the police certificate with my UCI number and application information-- this way atleast there may not be that extra delay ?!?! ( I also emailed them about this but no response yet)
 

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esma said:
should I wait until they ask for it becauase i dont first wabt to wait for themto check abd then find some readon to delay the whole process by asking me which will require weeks ( since i wouod have to mail it and then they would check it ) or should I just send the police certificate with my UCI number and application information-- this way atleast there may not be that extra delay ?!?! ( I also emailed them about this but no response yet)
Send it now.
 

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Send it now '-- just to avoid the delay right
Did you also experience this ?

They are processing July cases and I am a December case do you think there is a chance they may lose the letter since they haven't even opened my application yet ?
 

cillyx5

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I'd be hesitant too… If it's sent now, will it find it's way to the rest of your package? But if you wait to hear from them to send it, would that cause a delay.
Lots of moving parts.

Anyone who is going this route, please keep us all posted. This is awesome info.

Thanks.
 

Panamai

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esma said:
Send it now '-- just to avoid the delay right
Did you also experience this ?

They are processing July cases and I am a December case do you think there is a chance they may lose the letter since they haven't even opened my application yet ?
Just be sure and put your full names, birthdates, and UCI # and they will put it with your application. If you wait for them to notice and request it, it will most certainly delay your application. When you got your SA notification, they gave you an address to send additional documents to. Do it! That's what that is for.
 

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I should add, it's probably a good idea to scan it and send it in email before you send them the hard copy. That way, if it gets lost, there is at least evidence that you did have it and also, they will know to expect it.
 

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cillyx5 said:
I've heard around that some people are sending their completed package MINUS the police certificates (since they are taking 12-14 weeks), with a note explaining that it'll get sent in when received.

Does anyone have any experience with this?
It usually works. There are two primary risks:

1. It takes a long time (weeks) for visa offices to process mail* so it can delay your process. For this reason, sending it in as soon as you have it and have a way of associating it to yourself (UCI, visa office file number) send it in.

2. CIC tends to be kind with incomplete family class applications. However, there have been cases reported in here where packets have been sent back for being incomplete. Not being familiar with those first hand, I can't tell you exactly why those were sent back. To mitigate this risk, I'd send in an explanation and proof that you've submitted the request for the police certificates (e.g., waybill).

* Except if you get a visa officer's direct mail info (which they'll give you in rare cases, such as if they make mistakes on your CoPR).
 

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I got the same advice to send our application in and wait for the request for the FBI certificate. But here's what we are doing, for a variety of reasons.

I got an FBI certificate, but because of timing with my medicals, it was going to expire before everything was ready to be was sent in, so I re-did the police certificate. But unfortunately that was after the FBI started having issues, so we were waiting. And waiting...and waiting. That's when I got the advice to send without the current certificate.

Then I went to Canada for a visit around Valentine's Day. We were going to send everything in with the old one, and I realized my wife (the sponsor) had gotten something wrong when she did the Option C request; she doesn't get along with automated phone systems and her iPhone. So more waiting. In the meantime, I see that the FBI has charged my card. Whee! Then she gets an Option C, but it's for 2014, which hasn't been filed yet, and of course was blank.

So she talks to a live person and and requests the right Option C, and I'm still waiting on the FBI report. Then she gets the right Option C, Wheee! Again. And I call the FBI and find out it was actually sent in the mail (took about three weeks after the card was charged). So at this point, we're just waiting since we should be able to send everything together and it will all be current. I should have the FBI document tomorrow or Saturday, will express everything to her in Canada, then she can replace the expired one with the new one and she will send everything in. The timing just seems so tight with the three month expiration and I wanted to play it safe...plus we had to wait on the right Option C. At this point, a week's wait seems worth it when we are sure we can have everything be the right documentation upfront.
 

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Panamai said:
Just be sure and put your full names, birthdates, and UCI # and they will put it with your application. If you wait for them to notice and request it, it will most certainly delay your application. When you got your SA notification, they gave you an address to send additional documents to. Do it! That's what that is for.
Thank you I decided to keep a photocopy sent them an email and also mailing the police certificate with another document tomorrw !
 

esma

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Also about the mailing is it :
my address in corner
London office address in middle
Stamp on the top right corner ? ( what type of stamp ? )
I'll probably do It through canada post
 

AmericanGirlinLove

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I did. I sent in the FBI Police certificate after I sent my package. We simply added a note to the application package.
 

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AmericanGirlinLove said:
I did. I sent in the FBI Police certificate after I sent my package. We simply added a note to the application package.
Ya same . I just hope it doesn't get lost now