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MUFC said:
I don't see how this law will prevent them to continue to do the very same thing. Waiting here a little longer will not stop them. and the government will see that this law will be a fail
If they have to work and live in Canada for long enough to be eligible, maybe they will decide that it's not so bad here after all. It used to be simple with a year of credit from pre-PR and just a couple of years afterwards. Now it's at least 4 years post-PR. It will give them more opportunities to integrate and settle as "Canadians".
 

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zardoz said:
If they have to work and live in Canada for long enough to be eligible, maybe they will decide that it's not so bad here after all. It used to be simple with a year of credit from pre-PR and just a couple of years afterwards. Now it's at least 4 years post-PR. It will give them more opportunities to integrate and settle as "Canadians".
The timing will be almost the same like now for them to get the passport in their hands, because now the rules are 3eligibility as a PR and another one two years for the processing of the application.

In the future the processing will be faster to compensate the extra year for them to be here as a PR.

So at the end of the day they will poses the passport for about the same time.
 

na123

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This might be a stupid question.

Do you guys think that if someone had lived in Canada for 30-35 years and then upon retirement he left the country to go live permanently in another country, do you think they can or will take his citizenship away?

Thanks

MUFC said:
The timing will be almost the same like now for them to get the passport in their hands, because now the rules are 3eligibility as a PR and another one two years for the processing of the application.

In the future the processing will be faster to compensate the extra year for them to be here as a PR.

So at the end of the day they will poses the passport for about the same time.
 

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Yes they can take it away.

na123 said:
This might be a stupid question.

Do you guys think that if someone had lived in Canada for 30-35 years and then upon retirement he left the country to go live permanently in another country, do you think they can or will take his citizenship away?

Thanks
 

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If we follow what is written in the law, it says that the applicant has to continue to reside in Canada if granted citizenship, so officially if we read the law...

This law look everyday more and more funny to me, because it will be complete fail.
 

adubey

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MUFC said:
If we follow what is written in the law, it says that the applicant has to continue to reside in Canada if granted citizenship, so officially if we read the law...

This law look everyday more and more funny to me, because it will be complete fail.
C-24 is discriminatory and foolish act. To reduce the backlog of applications they have reduced the number of applications.. what a stupid way.. and to implement the rule should apply for any new PRs after the cutoff dates not any new applications for citizenship.. its almost like cheating, the govt of Canada in a document along with the PR says, 3 out of 4 years and people planned for their life like that. Its almost like they are not honoring their statement they made while inviting applicants..
 

ConcernPR

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Can someone tell me is if this bill is retroactive in other words will it affect everyone who has become a citizen before this bill was passed?
Can I still retired in a foreign tropical country after working my whole life in Canada?
Thank you,
 

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It is NOT retroactive.

ConcernPR said:
Can someone tell me is if this bill is retroactive in other words will it affect everyone who has become a citizen before this bill was passed?
Can I still retired in a foreign tropical country after working my whole life in Canada?
Thank you,
 

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adubey said:
C-24 is discriminatory and foolish act. To reduce the backlog of applications they have reduced the number of applications.. what a stupid way.. and to implement the rule should apply for any new PRs after the cutoff dates not any new applications for citizenship.. its almost like cheating, the govt of Canada in a document along with the PR says, 3 out of 4 years and people planned for their life like that. Its almost like they are not honoring their statement they made while inviting applicants..
If we assume that the government is listening the Canadian society and made these changes based on their will, that means that the newcomers are not welcome anymore here from the society.

So to the question... "Is Canada a welcoming country as a society?"
 

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ConcernPR said:
Can someone tell me is if this bill is retroactive in other words will it affect everyone who has become a citizen before this bill was passed?
Can I still retired in a foreign tropical country after working my whole life in Canada?
Thank you,
Don't worry, you just have to be ashamed when you come back here, because everybody will point with a finger at you and they will blame you that you are just another Canadian pensioner of convenience ;D :D :p
 

Raman_Ram

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We are reading too much into the legal wordings. The minister has clearly stated "on video" that "if granted" wording is to prevent applications on the way to the Airport. There is a big reason why there have been inordinate delays in the last because people beleived they can miss test, citizenship hearing schedule and even oath "a few times" as they are entitled to citizenship upon completion of 3/4 rule. The minister clearly said that after getting citizenship the person can leave and do whatever he wants. This whole clause is just to "officialise" the already prevalent RQing of doubtful applications for more than 3 years just so that those guys will lose their PR and therefore lose their entitlement to citizenship.
It is simply unconstitutional to prohibit your freedom of movement under the charter of rights, after you become a citizen.
So yes, you can "technically " leave forever to another country.
I don't know why we go on this roundabout of fear psychosis. How can they revoke your citizenship if you don't have any other passport? UN doesn't allow anyone to become stateless.
And this clause too will affect only when you apply and there is a line in the form stating the same, which is a good 6 months from now. Relax guys.
 

Raman_Ram

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Think about this. Many of us are here for more than a decade. Did we lose our original country of citizenship? And some of us are even from dictatorships. Seriously relax guys.
 

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By the way I am really laughing at this law, because in practise everything will be the same like now.

I also start to believe that this intent to reside clause is absolute BullSh*t.

The idea of the law is to stop the so called Canadians of convenience , but in practice all this people will get their passport basically for the same time.

I am also enjoying how they still keep the cut off date like a secret from the public.
 

na123

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I hope this is true. I love Canada and I am happy here and I want to contribute to the development and growth of this country. I don't oppose the law if it prevents those who are here to benefit from the Canadian citizenship only without giving anything back to the country, but I do oppose anything that will be used against innocent people.

I can probably make more money in some other country but I am happy to have freedom safety and peace in a beautiful country like Canada. Money is not everything in life.

Raman_Ram said:
We are reading too much into the legal wordings. The minister has clearly stated "on video" that "if granted" wording is to prevent applications on the way to the Airport. There is a big reason why there have been inordinate delays in the last because people beleived they can miss test, citizenship hearing schedule and even oath "a few times" as they are entitled to citizenship upon completion of 3/4 rule. The minister clearly said that after getting citizenship the person can leave and do whatever he wants. This whole clause is just to "officialise" the already prevalent RQing of doubtful applications for more than 3 years just so that those guys will lose their PR and therefore lose their entitlement to citizenship.
It is simply unconstitutional to prohibit your freedom of movement under the charter of rights, after you become a citizen.
So yes, you can "technically " leave forever to another country.
I don't know why we go on this roundabout of fear psychosis. How can they revoke your citizenship if you don't have any other passport? UN doesn't allow anyone to become stateless.
And this clause too will affect only when you apply and there is a line in the form stating the same, which is a good 6 months from now. Relax guys.
 

ConcernPR

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MUFC said:
Don't worry, you just have to be ashamed when you come back here, because everybody will point with a finger at you and they will blame you that you are just another Canadian pensioner of convenience ;D :D :p
Good To know ;D Thanks