DO NOT COME TO CANADA (Part II)

[Dr Eng X]

I dont agree with you

its easy to get a job but to progress in a job get promotions etc requires skills

lots of people say that its only networking, influences, etc cause they beleive that once they land everybody will fight to get him

thats the BS that 80% of the immigrants have in the brain ( I Had the same) but i started in the lowest possition in the company that brought me to canada having to do crappy shifts and dealing with a dush manager thatr had no knowledge or talent at all

3 years later I clibed up to be the manager of my departmen got a offer from a competing company doubling my salary

i could of cried back then and said that Canada sucks cause I had toi do 12 hour days divided in 4 shifts or that I was loading trucks at -40 when Im a Engenieer with 20+ years of experience and multiple awards in my career

bu I said I came here to work and prove myself I knew it was not gonna be easy and I did it

now Im supper happy established

I did not say that because I wanted. I said it based on experiences and many experiences. Unfortunately, Canada is NOT US (not for advanced graduate degree holders). People who were lucky to land a job even after these temporarily (survival) jobs don't realize this.
I have seen the case you talked about an electrical engineer with 20years of experience who landed a job in construction. He could not handle the job as I believe his qualifications and experience were not a match. Yes had he been a civil engineer, it would have been better!

The regional manager of that construction company is a crane operator. He does not know whom he hires instead he hires...
They look for who will get the job done which is OK...the few P.E.'s all they know is simple quantity take off ... No intense engineering
They hired few newly graduate engineers with advanced degrees (in different desciplines) non of them stayed at least in that branch...Some were fired, some figured it early and requested to be transfered, some struggled to prove themselves

Then look at highly paid jobs without skills which requires only networking or favoritism. I know many highly paid managers with high school and no skill or qualification...I'll be more specific a guy landed a job for being the boy friend of the owner's daughter...I know he's got a different skill or qualification...

 

[eemmoo1]

BTW when Part III is releasing

 

[Shaukat57]

BTW when Part III is releasing

Before Part IV

 

[glowingheart]

I did not say that because I wanted. I said it based on experiences and many experiences. Unfortunately, Canada is NOT US (not for advanced graduate degree holders). People who were lucky to land a job even after these temporarily (survival) jobs don't realize this.
I have seen the case you talked about an electrical engineer with 20years of experience who landed a job in construction. He could not handle the job as I believe his qualifications and experience were not a match. Yes had he been a civil engineer, it would have been better!

The regional manager of that construction company is a crane operator. He does not know whom he hires instead he hires...
They look for who will get the job done which is OK...the few P.E.'s all they know is simple quantity take off ... No intense engineering
They hired few newly graduate engineers with advanced degrees (in different desciplines) non of them stayed at least in that branch...Some were fired, some figured it early and requested to be transfered, some struggled to prove themselves

Then look at highly paid jobs without skills which requires only networking or favoritism. I know many highly paid managers with high school and no skill or qualification...I'll be more specific a guy landed a job for being the boy friend of the owner's daughter...I know he's got a different skill or qualification...

What province is this case from?
If it happens to be in alberta Does he has APEGA"
I tell you the oil and gas sector hires tons and tons of engenieers its a huge markrt here in ab and sask

Im a different type im a sound engenieer so my market is a very small on but it has been good

 

[Dr Eng X]

What province is this case from?
If it happens to be in alberta Does he has APEGA"
I tell you the oil and gas sector hires tons and tons of engenieers its a huge markrt here in ab and sask

Im a different type im a sound engenieer so my market is a very small on but it has been good

Yes Alberta, I am not sure which are you asking about?
All cases are in Alberta. They don't need academic degrees

 

[glowingheart]

Yes Alberta, I am not sure which are you asking about?
All cases are in Alberta. They don't need academic degrees

they should register in APEGA and do the tests

 

[Dr Eng X]

they should register in APEGA and do the tests

Believe me some did it is even worse I know few PhD's with APEGA. Then registering for APEGA is not like you take a test and pass. It is not like this, it is like who comes first the egg or the chicken, how can you get experience when you can't get a job. Then APEGA needs fees, membership, continuing practice...etc.

 

[sunsun]

Can general labour wages cover all of living cost in Alberta ? I heard living cost over there is higher than Ontario and 8 months of winter with -30 to -40 C.... Is that true ?

 

[Canooknic]

Can general labour wages cover all of living cost in Alberta ? I heard living cost over there is higher than Ontario and 8 months of winter with -30 to -40 C.... Is that true ?

If you're careful with your spending you'd be fine. We don't have 8 months of winter, last year the first snowfall wasn't until November in Edmonton and we had 1 week at the end of February where temperatures dropped to around -30. It really isn't as terrible as everyone makes out, you just prepare for it!

 

[Dr Eng X]

If you're careful with your spending you'd be fine. We don't have 8 months of winter, last year the first snowfall wasn't until November in Edmonton and we had 1 week at the end of February where temperatures dropped to around -30. It really isn't as terrible as everyone makes out, you just prepare for it!

last winter was an exception

 

[glowingheart]

last winter was an exception

yes last year was a warm one but normally in calgary is a week or 2 below 20 the rest is around -15 and its not as bad unless you work as a ski instructor
normally by halloween there is or has been snow on the ground

its true that is more expensive than Ontario but hourly rate is often higher as well

 

[Canooknic]

last winter was an exception

Yes, it was a good winter but a normal winter is not 8 months of -30!!!

 

[sunsun]

Some of us are still waiting for their PR process since 8 years ago and desperate (Pre Feb 2008) because CIC has removed 280.000 applicants plus their families . Some of us are just disappointed even they are already in Canada because they have Master / Phd degree but
still working in the field which is not their dream jobs....That's Life.... :'(

 

[scorpion_ca]

I AGREE WITH U ...THOSE PEOPLES POSTING HERE SO MANY VIEWS .... THOSE PEOPLES R GOT JOBS .......BY REFERENCE .......................UNDERSTAND . ONLY WAY TO GETTING JOB IN CANADA IS NETWORKING NETWORKING AND NETWORKING THAT'S IT AND SKILL AND EXPERIENCE IS NOT MANDATORY IN CANADA

If "ONLY WAY TO GETTING JOB IN CANADA IS NETWORKING NETWORKING AND NETWORKING THAT'S IT AND SKILL AND EXPERIENCE IS NOT MANDATORY IN CANADA", I was wondering how I got two professional jobs (white color) after completing PGD without networking. I got the first job within a month of completing PGD and the second one while I was working on a first one. BTW, I'm an immigrant.

You shouldn't mislead people if you haven't the proper info. You could say that networking is important but it also depends on situation and place.

 

[Dr Eng X]

If "ONLY WAY TO GETTING JOB IN CANADA IS NETWORKING NETWORKING AND NETWORKING THAT'S IT AND SKILL AND EXPERIENCE IS NOT MANDATORY IN CANADA", I was wondering how I got two professional jobs (white color) after completing PGD without networking. I got the first job within a month of completing PGD and the second one while I was working on a first one. BTW, I'm an immigrant.

You shouldn't mislead people if you haven't the proper info. You could say that networking is important but it also depends on situation and place.

There are exceptions but not many and it is among certain jobs! Would you highlight PGD? More about your career!