DO NOT COME TO CANADA (Part II)

[alinec]

I think it says he landed in Montreal but you do have a point that its only been a few days. It could take months to find a position that is available to you exactly in the place you have to be. Your best bet it trying to apply with the provincial or federal governement. You are bilingual so that is a plus.

oh ya montreal sorry. but in any case you dnt usually get answers directly sometimes they call you after 2- 3months for an interview. and if you are bilingual means more chances

 

[Ketevan]

Yes, thanks for your advice. The problem with government jobs is that I can only apply when I get my overseas diplomas evaluated and that takes 9 months minimum. Another thing I noticed is that there are no vacancy adverts in Quebec. They just add your CV to a pool of candidates and consult it when they have vacancies - this is what they claim. So the process is Impossible to monitor.
I do not expect any immediate reply to my applications. In fact, I am prepared for a long term unemployment because my field - economics - is of limited interest to employers who need commercial oriented degrees like accounting etc.
My point was that what Markus is experiencing is a relatively common and unfortunate situation.
I am looking forward to hearing some news from him anyway. Especially whether his teaching contract was extended.

I think it says he landed in Montreal but you do have a point that its only been a few days. It could take months to find a position that is available to you exactly in the place you have to be. Your best bet it trying to apply with the provincial or federal governement. You are bilingual so that is a plus.

 

[sidhardh]

MARCUS..SO IF I DO MASTERS..IT WILL BE GOOD FOR SURVIVAL OR BETTER FUTURE??OR WHICH COUNTRY S BEST FOR GOOD FUTURE?AUSTRALIA OR CANADA??

 

[Ketevan]

I do not have personal experience with Australia but I can give you four examples of my friends there.
One of them got citizenship and finished MSc there in environmental science. He has been working in sales sector for three years as he could not find a job in his field. Second one did MSc in urban planning and has been working as sales rep at department store, as there are no jobs in his field - however, he has no PR so this is logical. Third one is a PR and finished MSc there in civil engineering - he is working in warehouse as there are no job offers for him. Fourth one is not a PR and had very poor scores in his MSc yet he found a job - he is IT.

The cost of living in Australia is ridiculously high - in Sydney it costs about 1000 AUD to rent a shared room, here in Montreal I have a studio for 490 CAD. However, salaries in Australia are on average higher.

I believe both Canada and Australia are equally difficult to settle in - whether you get a job or no depends on your field and on which people you meet on your way, i.e. networking.

MARCUS..SO IF I DO MASTERS..IT WILL BE GOOD FOR SURVIVAL OR BETTER FUTURE??OR WHICH COUNTRY S BEST FOR GOOD FUTURE?AUSTRALIA OR CANADA??

 

[mikenz]

this is my favorite video about jobs and a must view for everyone going to Canada.. I agree 110% with him..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhA3zeELPzc

 

[QuebecDream]

Your first mistake was to move to Toronto.
Relocate to Saskatchewan or Manitoba. I'm 7th generation Canadian and relocated from Toronto to Winnipeg where there is better employment opportunities and the housing market is still affordable for the average person.
Canada is a big place and regional. Just because Toronto isn't working out doesn't mean the whole country is rotten.

Just becuase Saskatchewan or Manitoba worked for you does not mean it will work for all. There are others with similar experience of Marcus all over Canada. The first 1, 2 or 3 years are difficult for immigrants. Get over it. If you are a 7 generation immigrant then you dont know what he talks about.

 

[CanadianJeepGuy]

Yes, thanks for your advice. The problem with government jobs is that I can only apply when I get my overseas diplomas evaluated and that takes 9 months minimum. Another thing I noticed is that there are no vacancy adverts in Quebec. They just add your CV to a pool of candidates and consult it when they have vacancies - this is what they claim. So the process is Impossible to monitor.
I do not expect any immediate reply to my applications. In fact, I am prepared for a long term unemployment because my field - economics - is of limited interest to employers who need commercial oriented degrees like accounting etc.
My point was that what Markus is experiencing is a relatively common and unfortunate situation.
I am looking forward to hearing some news from him anyway. Especially whether his teaching contract was extended.

I would have thought that getting your education evaluated would have been something you would have done prior to getting here. My wife is an engineer and will have to do some equivalency testing so she can work in her field. She will have to start at an entry level job I'm sure and then apply around once she has obtained some experience here.

Your PhD in economics will be a hard sell to anyone other than banks but don't despair the CEO of Canada Post is just a chartered accountant. The governments in Quebec are all corrupt. Just network around until you've made friends on the inside.

 

[Ketevan]

I have not submitted my degrees for evaluation because I still have not graduated. I am still waiting for the University to arrange my viva (oral exam of dissertation). It will take about 12 months to graduate + 9 months for evaluation of credentials. I already gave up on selling PhD in the short-term. At the moment I just want a white collar post to pay my rent and get used to Quebeqois accent, e.g. call center or bank customer rep. But even these two posts will not be easy to get ??? I was recently viewing bank teller adverts with BMO and the requirement was to be fluent in English, French, Spanish,Mandarin and Cantonese simultaneously I am very curious to meet a person who satisfies this condition ;D

Thanks for your encouragement - I appreciate it.

I would have thought that getting your education evaluated would have been something you would have done prior to getting here. My wife is an engineer and will have to do some equivalency testing so she can work in her field. She will have to start at an entry level job I'm sure and then apply around once she has obtained some experience here.

Your PhD in economics will be a hard sell to anyone other than banks but don't despair the CEO of Canada Post is just a chartered accountant. The governments in Quebec are all corrupt. Just network around until you've made friends on the inside.

 

[scylla]

I was recently viewing bank teller adverts with BMO and the requirement was to be fluent in English, French, Spanish,Mandarin and Cantonese simultaneously

Wow. Finding people who are fluent in English, French, Mandarin and Cantonese would be pretty easy. But add Spanish to the mix and that certainly changes things.

 

[explorer101]

I was recently viewing bank teller adverts with BMO and the requirement was to be fluent in English, French, Spanish,Mandarin and Cantonese simultaneously I am very curious to meet a person who satisfies this condition ;D

People running BMO have definately gone crazy. For a $10 per hr job they have crazy requirement.

 

[Ketevan]

The salary was about 17-20 per hour, but after tax it gets closer to 10 than 20 I may be mistaken on BMO, but it was def one of these high street banks - RBC, Scotia, CIBC, BMO, TD, HSBC Canada or Laurentienne.

People running BMO have definately gone crazy. For a $10 per hr job they have crazy requirement.

 

[CanadianJeepGuy]

People running BMO have definately gone crazy. For a $10 per hr job they have crazy requirement.

Another sign of of globalization. Years ago CIBC added Chinese to all their bank machines even though the Chinese represent less than 2% of the total Canadian population. We have more Germans living in Canada than we do Chinese yet CIBC did not add zee language of zee fawzawland as an option beyond our 2 official languages.
Make no mistake. Corporations are fully in charge.

 

[Ketevan]

My local bank proudly advertises a verbal service in Armenian although the % of Armenians in Canada is low and most of them cannot speak fluent Armenian anyway, preferring Russian among themselves.

Another sign of of globalization. Years ago CIBC added Chinese to all their bank machines even though the Chinese represent less than 2% of the total Canadian population. We have more Germans living in Canada than we do Chinese yet CIBC did not add zee language of zee fawzawland as an option beyond our 2 official languages.
Make no mistake. Corporations are fully in charge.

 

[explorer101]

The salary was about 17-20 per hour, but after tax it gets closer to 10 than 20 I may be mistaken on BMO, but it was def one of these high street banks - RBC, Scotia, CIBC, BMO, TD, HSBC Canada or Laurentienne.

For a teller, no bank pay more than $10-11 per Hr, it is lowest position in a branch. Fancophone and anglophone is bilingual requirement of most of the banks operating at places where high francophone population is there. It is not a requirement in Toronto or GTA. People who can speak mandarin can not in fact speak cantonese. It is not standard requirement that the reps in branches of a bank are multilengual. By the way I work for a Canadian bank( one out of big 5) and can not speak french, spanish, mandarin and cantonese.

 

[CanadianJeepGuy]

My local bank proudly advertises a verbal service in Armenian although the % of Armenians in Canada is low and most of them cannot speak fluent Armenian anyway, preferring Russian among themselves.

The population of Armenia is 3.5 million total. How many dispora live in Canada? Maybe 30,000? Any business that offers a service no one will use is offering nothing.