Decision Made Newdelhi ApplicantQuery

[bhuvan]

i got DM for spousal visa NDVO for my aplication
My timeline is on left

my 3 query is as under

1 when i click DM link their is no update added inside
even got no PPR email. this is happening from 4 days
what it means when links show old updates


2. when can we expct PPR ftom NDVO and is there anychance
of rejection as we donot have any iterview or ADR .

3 my wife is pregnant for 3 month sud we inform ndvo
now or she can travel to canada without decaration in cade
of early pregnancy


seniors pl rply thanks
bhuvan

 

[DuberBlue]

Hello Bhuvan,

As far as your wife's pregnancy goes, much depends on your own status, and where the child is born. Just being pregnant itself does not change the process at all, so at 3 months in there is no need to update any status at this point.

1) If you are a Canadian Citizen, the child will be a citizen regardless of where he/she is born. I'm 99% sure this means the PR application will not have to be changed in any way.
2) If you are NOT a Canadian Citizen (i.e. a PR only), then if the child IS born in Canada the child is a Canadian Citizen, and the PR application will not have to be changed.
3) If you are a PR only, and the child is NOT born in Canada, the PR application will have to be updated to include your new dependent child. If this doesn't happen, you risk not being able to sponsor the child ever in the future. You need to do this EVEN if a CoPR has already been issued and your wife hasn't landed yet.

As for the status of your application...a Decision Made is, in theory, supposed to mean that either the PR is approved, the PR is denied, or that you will shortly be contacted for an interview. No one can tell you for sure but if you were not contacted for an interview it is very unlikely you would have been denied outright unless there was some glaring problem with the application (criminal past, serious disease, evidence of fraud, etc).

 

[bhuvan]

Happy to inform I got PPR today but it say please inform
us for change in circumstances which also ask if you had
given birth or pregnent if yes then month of pregnency

i m now 3 month pregnent sud i send them email or
avoid as it will delay our pp submission.

also i want expert to reply if i declare them aftrr how many
week they wil reply and what they can reply.can they ask
me to go after dlivery also my husband who is PR and my sponsor
is with me from last 4 months in india and leaving next
month so sud this create problem after ppr
i m in dilemna pl help fast
thanks

bhuvan

 

[DuberBlue]

I'm not a lawyer or immigration consultant, but, if the CIC asks you if you are pregnant and how far along you are...it is NOT a good idea to lie about it, though I'm rather curious as to why they are asking. Unborn children are not part of any application process.

No one can really tell you for sure how long your VO will take to respond to you. It depends on whether they are ready to issue you your CoPR or whether they have additional questions for you.

 

[DuberBlue]

Hi again,

I just want to try and put you at ease somewhat...I've been looking up this issue of pregnancy during a PR application, and here is what I can best conclude:

-Pregnancy, as stated, does not change the PR application itself. Unborn children don't have to be declared on any form.
-Since they are asking you, it is a good idea to be honest about it. Pregnancy is not actually a lawful reason in itself to be refused border entry. BUT Misrepresentation is.
-I am guessing once you land you should be upfront about being pregnant. Again, this SHOULD not change your CoPR in any way, especially if you inform the CIC now of your situation. If you had a CoPR in hand, and the CIC knows you are pregnant already, you would have no problems. Again, just BEING pregnant should not affect your application at all -- there are no additional people to sponsor at this time.

 

[bhuvan]

Thanks for prompt details
But when i inform them if they ask question
Of my sponsor and i say he is with me from last
4 Months and leaving next month with me .since
My husband is PR will it create problem that
sponsor visiting for so long
Actually he came for 2 months but due to pregnency
To take my care he cancelled and post phone
He had stayed 2 years already in 5 years so he
Meet resudency obligations and since
Sponsorship is outside Canada nowhere
it say PR cant leave country for few months

Pl reply i plan to inform abt pregnency and same day submit pp at vfs in that way they have to do things faster right...

Pl reply soon
Bhuvan

 

[bhuvan]

I am waiting for reply will my husband with me for 4 months create problem
If i have to inform them sud i send covering lettr with PP or email them first and ask as it say submit PP in 30 days and also inform if u r pregnent
Thank you

 

[DuberBlue]

I cannot say with any certainty what will happen. I know the CIC allows sponsors who are PRs to visit abroad, but I do not know how they will look upon a 4 month trip. It may very well be that they do not care but I have no real experience in this area. If they do not ask however there is no need to inform them about your sponsor.

With that said I wonder if it could cause more of an issue if you and your sponsor travel back to Canada together when you land. If he is there with you they could ask how long he was there for with you. If he is not there with you they would not ask about him at all. Again this is only speculation on my part.

 

[deweysmith]

Hello Bhuvan,

As far as your wife's pregnancy goes, much depends on your own status, and where the child is born. Just being pregnant itself does not change the process at all, so at 3 months in there is no need to update any status at this point.

1) If you are a Canadian Citizen, the child will be a citizen regardless of where he/she is born. I'm 99% sure this means the PR application will not have to be changed in any way.
2) If you are NOT a Canadian Citizen (i.e. a PR only), then if the child IS born in Canada the child is a Canadian Citizen, and the PR application will not have to be changed.
3) If you are a PR only, and the child is NOT born in Canada, the PR application will have to be updated to include your new dependent child. If this doesn't happen, you risk not being able to sponsor the child ever in the future. You need to do this EVEN if a CoPR has already been issued and your wife hasn't landed yet.

As for the status of your application...a Decision Made is, in theory, supposed to mean that either the PR is approved, the PR is denied, or that you will shortly be contacted for an interview. No one can tell you for sure but if you were not contacted for an interview it is very unlikely you would have been denied outright unless there was some glaring problem with the application (criminal past, serious disease, evidence of fraud, etc).

You are correct on all points except #1. Parents can only transmit Canadian citizenship by birth if they themselves were born in Canada.

 

[DuberBlue]

Are you sure? The CIC site itself seems to say that if the child is born after April 17, 2009 (obviously, in this case), the child will be Canadian as long as the parent is a naturalized Canadian Citizen at the time of birth.

Reference: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=365&t=5

 

[deweysmith]

Are you sure? The CIC site itself seems to say that if the child is born after April 17, 2009 (obviously, in this case), the child will be Canadian as long as the parent is a naturalized Canadian Citizen at the time of birth.

Reference: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=365&t=5

That's bizarre. I have a buddy who is as Canadian as they come, and who was born in Europe somewhere. This means that he (who has lived here most of his life) can't transmit Canadian citizenship by birth because he was not born here, but once I become a citizen I can?

That means I could theoretically transmit TWO citizenships by birth.

 

[bhuvan]

I'm not a lawyer or immigration consultant, but, if the CIC asks you if you are pregnant and how far along you are...it is NOT a good idea to lie about it, though I'm rather curious as to why they are asking. Unborn children are not part of any application process.

No one can really tell you for sure how long your VO will take to respond to you. It depends on whether they are ready to issue you your CoPR or whether they have additional questions for you.

Thanks DuberBlue for your Reply , I got My PR Visa for my wife on 08 Sept 2015 , I did follow ur advice and informed abt pregnancy and they send my visa in just 3 days after my updates and passport submission at VFS along with covering letter also my sponsor extended stay also didnot effect us.
now awaiting to land and give delivery to my baby soon in canada

god bless all spousal applicants
bhuvan