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[rhcohen2014]

She send me an email ... I have never heard about quota on spouse visa either ... I hope she is wrong... Also I am seeing a lot of people are getting PPR on some other forms..

what specifically was written? and what source was the MP quoting? i'm going to go on a limb and say perhaps the MP misunderstood, and assumed the quota was for all family class applications, not just parental sponsorship.

 

[hhassa]

what specifically was written? and what source was the MP quoting? i'm going to go on a limb and say perhaps the MP misunderstood, and assumed the quota was for all family class applications, not just parental sponsorship.

"We have been informed that CIC has reached the maximum quota for immigration visas for 2014". She knows my case I have been talking to her lately... but perhaps she meant maximum quota for other type of visas...

 

[Mariac819]

"We have been informed that CIC has reached the maximum quota for immigration visas for 2014". She knows my case I have been talking to her lately... but perhaps she meant maximum quota for other type of visas...

Since when does spouse PR's have a quota? The only quota I could find was for Federal skilled worker visa's.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/complete-applications.asp

 

[rhcohen2014]

Since when does spouse PR's have a quota? The only quota I could find was for Federal skilled worker visa's.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/complete-applications.asp

there is also a cap for parent sponsorship. considering there is no detail in the message, i'm guess the MP doesn't really understand there are different streams for PR applications, and is just assuming that all have quotas. i wouldn't be concerned about this message. it's not proven what it's based on or what it's referencing.

 

[lokyy]

are you a us citizen and therefore visa exempt? if so, they do not need your passport to issue you the copr, so you will just receive the copr in the mail.

are you NOT a us citizen, and require a visa to enter canada - therefore NOT visa-exempt? then the letter you get will probably give you instructions for how to get the visa counterfoil in your passport. generally ottawa processes family class applications for visa exempt applicants, so their method for approving those requiring visas is a bit different than the norm.

so,will a us permament resident(green card holder)(which dont need visa to enter canada) receive a COPR or has to send the passport(cuban) to the ny or la for stamping?

 

[rhcohen2014]

so,will a us permament resident(green card holder)(which dont need visa to enter canada) receive a COPR or has to send the passport(cuban) to the ny or la for stamping?

if an applicant is requires a visa to enter canada, then they will need to submit their physical passport to the visa office processing the application so that a visa counterfoil can be inserted. NY does not handle family class sponsorships, and only applications requiring interviews are processed in LA. so where the passport is sent is dependant on where the application is, and for a US applicant it will be either Ottawa (no interview) or LA (interview required).

 

[Mariac819]

there is also a cap for parent sponsorship. considering there is no detail in the message, i'm guess the MP doesn't really understand there are different streams for PR applications, and is just assuming that all have quotas. i wouldn't be concerned about this message. it's not proven what it's based on or what it's referencing.

Thank you rhCohen! I

 

[hhassa]

Thank you rhCohen! I

My initial email was:
We have received another email from Delhi India to do reassessment of medical as the medicals are expired (even though they are expiring next in November). What could this possibly mean? I did some research and found this link. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/medic/assess/cert.asp - which says that
> >
> > "
> > The process applies only to cases where a final decision is pending due to either:
> >
> > * the expiration of a medical certificate; or,
> > * when the validity of the medical certificate is about to expire and the applicant is unable to land before it expires. "
> >
> >
> > do you think we should hear from them soon for PPR or will they take more time now since this medical extension will be valid for 12 months.

==============================

Here is what she wrote to me:
> > If CIC anticipates that they will be unable to process the case (i.e. issue the visa) before the medicals expire they request that they are re-done. We have been informed that CIC has reached the maximum quota for immigration visas for 2014, so this may be the reason they are requesting the medicals to be re-done.
> >
> > Regards,

Then I wrote:
1) Were you specifically told that quota has been reached for spouse visa? I know there is a quota for parental sponsorship but never heard anything about spouse visa quota.
==============================

and here is her 2nd email with detailed explanation:

Never apologize for bugging me! That's what I am here for .....Sorry for the confusion - I should have used the word "immigration levels and not "quotas".

Every year CIC determines Immigration Levels which they do not exceed - Please refer to the Immigration levels for 2014. at

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/2013-11-01.asp

Once they reach those levels they do not stop processing the rest of the files, they continue to process them, but they do not issue any more visas for that year, in the specific category.

The difference between quotas and immigration levels is that - when there is a quota, then once they receive that specific number of applications they return all the others and no longer accept any more.

But when they have immigration levels for the year, they can "accept" any number of application, but they only "process" in that particular year up to the pre-detrmined levels. The rest of the application will continue processing but visas will only be issued in the following year.

The official citizenship and immigration website is cic.g.c.ca. Immigration.ca is a private company but if you wish to find their reference to the 2014 immigration level announcement you will find it at

http://www.immigration.ca/en/2013/86-canada-immigration-news-articles/2013/december/627-cic-announces-2014-targets-for-spousal-sponsorships.html

So to answer your specific questions:

No I have not been told specifically that they have met the levels for Sposual Sponsorships for 2014 (that is not what I said in my email) . I said they have asked your husband to repeat the medicals as they do not anticipate that they will be able to complete the processing of his application before his current medicals expire in Nov 2014.

(just as you said: "* when the validity of the medical certificate is about to expire and the applicant is unable to land before it expires. ") - this applies in your husband's case)
A possible reason could be the question of the immigration levels having been met - because on a many recent inquiries for both Inland applications and overseas application in different categories (not just spousal) - I have been told that all requirements have been met, positive decision have been made, but they will likely not be scheduled for landing interviews or requested for passport till the end of the year, as they have reached immigration levels.


*I think she is saying that CIC has reached the level and may be that is why my husband received reassessment of medical. But my theory was if they did not wanted to issue the visa this year they could have easily waited till next year and ask him to do his re-medical. I mean what the hell we have been waiting for 4 years already so why not more huh!

 

[iNick89]

My initial email was:
We have received another email from Delhi India to do reassessment of medical as the medicals are expired (even though they are expiring next in November). What could this possibly mean? I did some research and found this link. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/medic/assess/cert.asp - which says that
> >
> > "
> > The process applies only to cases where a final decision is pending due to either:
> >
> > * the expiration of a medical certificate; or,
> > * when the validity of the medical certificate is about to expire and the applicant is unable to land before it expires. "
> >
> >
> > do you think we should hear from them soon for PPR or will they take more time now since this medical extension will be valid for 12 months.

==============================

Here is what she wrote to me:
> > If CIC anticipates that they will be unable to process the case (i.e. issue the visa) before the medicals expire they request that they are re-done. We have been informed that CIC has reached the maximum quota for immigration visas for 2014, so this may be the reason they are requesting the medicals to be re-done.
> >
> > Regards,

Then I wrote:
1) Were you specifically told that quota has been reached for spouse visa? I know there is a quota for parental sponsorship but never heard anything about spouse visa quota.
==============================

and here is her 2nd email with detailed explanation:

Never apologize for bugging me! That's what I am here for .....Sorry for the confusion - I should have used the word "immigration levels and not "quotas".

Every year CIC determines Immigration Levels which they do not exceed - Please refer to the Immigration levels for 2014. at

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/2013-11-01.asp

Once they reach those levels they do not stop processing the rest of the files, they continue to process them, but they do not issue any more visas for that year, in the specific category.

The difference between quotas and immigration levels is that - when there is a quota, then once they receive that specific number of applications they return all the others and no longer accept any more.

But when they have immigration levels for the year, they can "accept" any number of application, but they only "process" in that particular year up to the pre-detrmined levels. The rest of the application will continue processing but visas will only be issued in the following year.

The official citizenship and immigration website is cic.g.c.ca. Immigration.ca is a private company but if you wish to find their reference to the 2014 immigration level announcement you will find it at

immigration.ca/en/2013/86-canada-immigration-news-articles/2013/december/627-cic-announces-2014-targets-for-spousal-sponsorships.html

So to answer your specific questions:

No I have not been told specifically that they have met the levels for Sposual Sponsorships for 2014 (that is not what I said in my email) . I said they have asked your husband to repeat the medicals as they do not anticipate that they will be able to complete the processing of his application before his current medicals expire in Nov 2014.

(just as you said: "* when the validity of the medical certificate is about to expire and the applicant is unable to land before it expires. ") - this applies in your husband's case)
A possible reason could be the question of the immigration levels having been met - because on a many recent inquiries for both Inland applications and overseas application in different categories (not just spousal) - I have been told that all requirements have been met, positive decision have been made, but they will likely not be scheduled for landing interviews or requested for passport till the end of the year, as they have reached immigration levels.


*I think she is saying that CIC has reached the level and may be that is why my husband received reassessment of medical. But my theory was if they did not wanted to issue the visa this year they could have easily waited till next year and ask him to do his re-medical. I mean what the hell we have been waiting for 4 years already so why not more huh!

Thanks for the info.

This really sucks

 

[ckizaks]

Thanks for the info.

This really sucks

It sucks, but it's good to know - good info.

 

[IvanP]

It sucks, but it's good to know - good info.

The original announcement is here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/2013-11-01.asp

These levels seem to be an attempt by CIC to manage the workflow of its offices, meaning 48,000 spousal visas is what CIC expects its workforce to be able to process in one year, and not a cap on the number of theoretically available spousal visas.

An annual cap on spousal sponsorships would be a very radical and cruel departure from Canada's immigration policy, and I don't think that's what the announcement is.

 

[ckizaks]

The original announcement is here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/2013-11-01.asp

These levels seem to be an attempt by CIC to manage the workflow of its offices, meaning 48,000 spousal visas is what CIC expects its workforce to be able to process in one year, and not a cap on the number of theoretically available spousal visas.

An annual cap on spousal sponsorships would be a very radical and cruel departure from Canada's immigration policy, and I don't think that's what the announcement is.

It does seem to indicate that the 48,000 is an admissions target, so even though I don't like it, I will at least factor this into my waiting.

That's what this seems to indicate:

A planning range is an estimate of the number of people CIC expects to admit each year, taking into account the differences in applicants’ behaviour both before applying and once they have received their visa (some applicants take longer than others to arrive in Canada from abroad after receiving their visa).

For each range, CIC also sets an admissions target. The work of CIC’s visa processing network is based on the admissions target so that admissions fall within the planning range. It is important to note that these are “planned” ranges and targets. Factors beyond CIC’s control can affect actual admission numbers, e.g. security issues that impact overseas processing.

 

[Yaak]

It does seem to indicate that the 48,000 is an admissions target, so even though I don't like it, I will at least factor this into my waiting.

That's what this seems to indicate:

A planning range is an estimate of the number of people CIC expects to admit each year, taking into account the differences in applicants' behaviour both before applying and once they have received their visa (some applicants take longer than others to arrive in Canada from abroad after receiving their visa).

For each range, CIC also sets an admissions target. The work of CIC's visa processing network is based on the admissions target so that admissions fall within the planning range. It is important to note that these are “planned” ranges and targets. Factors beyond CIC's control can affect actual admission numbers, e.g. security issues that impact overseas processing.

From what is stated here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLish/department/ips/index.asp, the operational target represents the number of applications that CIC staff will have to be able to process in order to achieve the goal of the immigration plan. There is no suggestion that they constitute an upper limit.

"In order to meet the number of admissions set out in the plan, CIC establishes what are known as “operational targets.” Operational targets are the number of applications (in persons) that must be finalized by processing offices in order to have admissions fall within the range set in the immigration plan. Operational targets are based on the total number of persons covered by applications to be finalized, including both positive and negative decisions as well as withdrawals. Consequently, operational targets are higher than the planned immigration levels.

Additionally, operational targets are higher because when applicants receive visas, they determine when to use them and whether they will use them. For example, at any given time there are applicants who have been issued a visa but who have not used it yet. Some may also end up deciding not to come to Canada after all. As a result, operational targets must also consider the fact that about two percent of people who get a visa do not use the visa, and that some people delay their arrival to Canada until the following year.

CIC regularly monitors the progress of its processing network toward achieving the assigned operational targets. If necessary, targets may be reallocated in response to changing circumstances."

For what it's worth....

 

[rhcohen2014]

From what is stated here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLish/department/ips/index.asp, the operational target represents the number of applications that CIC staff will have to be able to process in order to achieve the goal of the immigration plan. There is no suggestion that they constitute an upper limit.

quite honestly, i don't see this as meaning CIC will stop issuing approvals for the year. There are many applicants reporting receiving COPR this week, so my guess is this is just a target # they want to hit for goal purposes, and it doesn't mean once they hit that number they will stop until the following year. These goals were released in nov 2013, and there is no mention of anything being suspended because they reached their "goal". i would think if that was normal practice to stop processing past a certain number, CIC would be in pretty hot water. Again, people seem to still be getting approved daily.

 

[hhassa]

quite honestly, i don't see this as meaning CIC will stop issuing approvals for the year. There are many applicants reporting receiving COPR this week, so my guess is this is just a target # they want to hit for goal purposes, and it doesn't mean once they hit that number they will stop until the following year. These goals were released in nov 2013, and there is no mention of anything being suspended because they reached their "goal". i would think if that was normal practice to stop processing past a certain number, CIC would be in pretty hot water. Again, people seem to still be getting approved daily.

I really hope you are right......