Conditional Visa's - It's Happening!

[toby]

2 years conditional visa followed by interviews for both sponsor and sponsored person will solve the problem. staying together for 2 years is more satisfying than expensive trips, registered phone calls, money transaction receipts etc. under current rule many genuine couple(specially from 3rd world countries) face troubles because they dont have enough proofs. some dont have enough money arrange ceremonies, some get married against the will of the family members., some just dont keep records of their relationship.. all these raise red flags and eventually they get refused or have to wait 2+ years to get through. so if they stay together successfully for few years then its easy to call them genuine couples with less hassles.

I haven't read anywhere that CIC expects conditional visas to actually speed up the process, but that SHOULD be a result if the VO assessing an application can give a "yes" to uncertain cases, knowing that the 2-year period allows corrective action.

 

[toby]

So what you say is we shall all be titled as "Conditional", facing a uncertain furture just because some of us disappear in the airport, and you really think 2 years is gonna stop the abuse?
You know what? it's just easier to pass the burden to CBSA when the the PR has to be revoked, and good luck to deport people who frauded to enter.

Well, if you think the proposal is not going to work, do you prefer the current system, or do you have a better alternative to suggest?

 

[mameelynn]

I don't see how this would be a problem for legitimate couples. I would love to see a box to check for longer relationships so that CIC could see right away that they have been together for longer. I think that couples that haven't been together for a long time should be looked at differently than those of us that have been together for 5+ years and the wait time should reflect that for PR. If the two main things CIC are looking for are clean criminal backgrounds and the legitimateness of the relationship than people that have longer term realtionships should take less time to process.

 

[Queenyvzla]

: hello! this option is only for people who live already in canada? well i read i just want to know for sure.......

 

[rjessome]

I don't see how this would be a problem for legitimate couples. I would love to see a box to check for longer relationships so that CIC could see right away that they have been together for longer. I think that couples that haven't been together for a long time should be looked at differently than those of us that have been together for 5+ years and the wait time should reflect that for PR. If the two main things CIC are looking for are clean criminal backgrounds and the legitimateness of the relationship than people that have longer term realtionships should take less time to process.

That is already in the proposed Regulations. Only couples married or in a common-law relationship for less than 2 years will be subject to these new rules, if they do become law.

 

[toby]

And ... in a summery I read somewhere (I've got to start noting my sources), the condition is "automatically" removed if the couple is still together two years after landing. If this is true, then CIC will presumably not be checking on the couple two years later. And if this is indeed true, then how does CIC learn about those relationships that ended before the two-year period?

 

[toby]

And ... in a summery I read somewhere

Sorry, I meant "summary". I've really got to start editing before sending these messages.

 

[Bilaldxb]

Any one that has a problem with this law, then your trying to do a MOC...

What's the problem with living with ur husband or wife for more then 2 year if it's a true marriage then it's not a problem.

And if you do break up with ur husband or wife before the 2 years go back to our country.

Thank you

 

[Kedeisha]

Any one that has a problem with this law, then your trying to do a MOC...

What's the problem with living with ur husband or wife for more then 2 year if it's a true marriage then it's not a problem.

And if you do break up with ur husband or wife before the 2 years go back to our country.

Thank you

I agree

 

[fandv]

Hi guys....

I am kind of confused about this proposed rule regarding conditional sponsorship. Anyone can enlighten me?

My questions are:

1. The proposed new rule states that if a couple has been in a "relationship" for 2 years or less, then the sponsored spouse will get a conditional permanent resident visa. What does "relationship" mean in this context? Dating or marriage?

2. For a couple that's been in the relationship for 2 or more years (again, I am not sure whether "relationship" means dating (leading to marriage) or marriage), I guess it's in their best interest to prove to the CIC that they've been together for more than 2 years, so that the sponsored spouse won't have to go through the conditional visa stage. The big question is: how do we even prove it? To prove a marriage took place more than 2 years ago, that's very easy.....we just have to show the marriage certificate, which obviously does have a date on it. But what about dating? More often than not, usually there is no written document that shows the exact date the sponsor started a romantic relationship with the sponsored spouse

 

[rjessome]

Any one that has a problem with this law, then your trying to do a MOC...

What's the problem with living with ur husband or wife for more then 2 year if it's a true marriage then it's not a problem.

And if you do break up with ur husband or wife before the 2 years go back to our country.

Thank you

So simple? What if you have a child in those two years and the Canadian spouse won't let you leave with the child? You are just supposed to leave your child? No problem with that?

 

[rjessome]

Hi guys....

I am kind of confused about this proposed rule regarding conditional sponsorship. Anyone can enlighten me?

My questions are:

1. The proposed new rule states that if a couple has been in a "relationship" for 2 years or less, then the sponsored spouse will get a conditional permanent resident visa. What does "relationship" mean in this context? Dating or marriage?

2. For a couple that's been in the relationship for 2 or more years (again, I am not sure whether "relationship" means dating (leading to marriage) or marriage), I guess it's in their best interest to prove to the CIC that they've been together for more than 2 years, so that the sponsored spouse won't have to go through the conditional visa stage. The big question is: how do we even prove it? To prove a marriage took place more than 2 years ago, that's very easy.....we just have to show the marriage certificate, which obviously does have a date on it. But what about dating? More often than not, usually there is no written document that shows the exact date the sponsor started a romantic relationship with the sponsored spouse

It would be date of marriage or date cohabitation began. Dating doesn't count.

 

[Bilaldxb]

So simple? What if you have a child in those two years and the Canadian spouse won't let you leave with the child? You are just supposed to leave your child? No problem with that?

That will be different, it's a case by case.
But if you move to Canada and after 1 year you break , then u should move back from where u came from.
Case closed.

Not like that indaian girl that moved to Canada after 1 week she leaves here husband and moves in with her uncle and wants to stay in Canada because she wants to study.
I'm sorry that's bullshit, she wanted to study in Canada in the first place she just didn't want to pay high international student fees.

The HIGHEST MOC is in india and china and guess what there step 2 processing times are the lowest 6 months only.

 

[Bilaldxb]

So simple? What if you have a child in those two years and the Canadian spouse won't let you leave with the child? You are just supposed to leave your child? No problem with that?

That will be different, it's a case by case.
But if you move to Canada and after 1 year you break , then u should move back from where u came from.
Case closed.

Not like that indaian girl that moved to Canada after 1 week she leaves here husband and moves in with her uncle and wants to stay in Canada because she wants to study.
I'm sorry that's bullshit, she wanted to study in Canada in the first place she just didn't want to pay high international student fees.

The HIGHEST MOC is in india and china and guess what there step 2 processing times are the lowest 6 months only.

 

[locolynn]

That will be different, it's a case by case.
But if you move to Canada and after 1 year you break , then u should move back from where u came from.
Case closed.

Right. You break up (before a year in your books) and must return to your country, case closed.

Oh, except for the circumstances you commented on above which you think should be an exception.

Stop drawing lines in the sand! Having children, a great job that you love - or one of the other million reasons why someone wouldn't want to "go back where u came from" are why it's 100%, totally NOT cased closed dude.

I'm not really for or against the conditional visa...I can see both the good and the bad. I am just sooo against people shouting "go back to your own country" over and over and over again. It's just so lame.

Lynn