CEC Question regarding Current Employer NOC 6211

[Bunny Thapar]

Hi everyone,

Its been long.

Canada Visa forum has always acted as a support system while I was coming on a work permit from India last year.

I hope to get my query answered by the experts.

So I am on Closed Work Permit for 2 years with my Current Employer with the NOC Code 6211 Retail Sales Supervisor which was LMIA approved too.

I have completed 10 months with my employer.

I want to file for my PR now as the work environment is pathetic so I am looking for a change as they are exploiting me with too much of stress and aint a right place to grow career wise.

My employer is delaying in giving me the reference letter as they know that once I get my PR I will leave.

They are avoiding to give me the experienxe letter which is required to show to the Government that I am still working with them so in that case I have applied for ATIP from where I got the signed appointment letter which employer had submitted to IRCC during my Work Permit application in which they have stated they are supporting my Work Permit as well as PR with my Managers signature on it.

I know we have to complete one year to be eligibile for CEC which I will complete in Jan 2019.

So the question I had was Can I go ahead and submit the same appointment letter of my employer where he has confirmed the job and supporting PR statement along with my pay slips till coming Jan, old documents from India which I had submitted with my new ielts overall score 7.

So will IRCC consider the same for my PR application?????

Or would they require a new letter from employer kind of reference which says I am still working there with my duties mentioned???

Like is new reference letter from Current Employer MANDATORY?????

As I am very sure that my Employer will stretch till next December as my Visa is expiring in Jan 2020.

But I dont want to wait so long as I have good score overall so by submitting my file alongwith my wife with my current ielts score and considering Lmia points + one year current employer points its coming upto 479.

Also I am going to get married in March 2019 so was thinking to put my and to be wife’s file together for PR so she doesnt have to wait much!

Is that a good idea or should I get here on Open Work Permit and then file for our PR???

Also what will be the duration of each like for PR together and my wifes Open Work Permit??

I know too much content but I am not getting any right advise from anyone as everyone has their own views which they are not sure of.

I also tried seeing some lawyers but came with an outcome that they are just sitting there to make money so not trusting their advise.

Please suggest whats best.

Your reply will be much appreciated.

Thanks and regards,

Bunny!

 

[jes_ON]

So I am on Closed Work Permit for 2 years with my Current Employer with the NOC Code 6211 Retail Sales Supervisor which was LMIA approved too. I have completed 10 months with my employer. I want to file for my PR now as the work environment is pathetic so I am looking for a change as they are exploiting me with too much of stress and aint a right place to grow career wise.

Unfortunately, you are not yet eligible under the CEC program to apply. You need to work a full year in full-time employment. You did not mention any foreign work experience, so it is not clear if you are eligible under the FSW program.

My employer is delaying in giving me the reference letter as they know that once I get my PR I will leave.

Your reference letter must be written after you complete one year.

They are avoiding to give me the experienxe letter which is required to show to the Government that I am still working with them so in that case I have applied for ATIP from where I got the signed appointment letter which employer had submitted to IRCC during my Work Permit application in which they have stated they are supporting my Work Permit as well as PR with my Managers signature on it.

So, that's good, you have a valid job offer. However, if you quit your job, you do not get to keep the 50 points for the valid job offer.

I know we have to complete one year to be eligibile for CEC which I will complete in Jan 2019.
So the question I had was Can I go ahead and submit the same appointment letter of my employer where he has confirmed the job and supporting PR statement along with my pay slips till coming Jan, old documents from India which I had submitted with my new ielts overall score 7.

So will IRCC consider the same for my PR application????? Or would they require a new letter from employer kind of reference which says I am still working there with my duties mentioned??? Like is new reference letter from Current Employer MANDATORY?????

Yes, the reference letter is mandatory. It testifies to your work experience, an appointment letter does not do that. There are some cases where applicants cannot get the reference letter and provide alternative documentation, but you have to make an effort, and if that fails, you have to write a letter of explanation about why you cannot get the letter, and provide proof (e.g. an email where your employer refuses to give the letter).

As I am very sure that my Employer will stretch till next December as my Visa is expiring in Jan 2020.
But I dont want to wait so long as I have good score overall so by submitting my file alongwith my wife with my current ielts score and considering Lmia points + one year current employer points its coming upto 479.

If you received points for a valid job offer, your score will drop to 429 if you do not stay with your employer throughout the processing of your PR application.

 

[Bunny Thapar]

Thanks @jes_ON for your time on replying this!

I am definately not leaving the job until I get my PR but its just that I dont to wait too long for PR as next October is elections so want to get it done before any rule changes.

So just one last final thing - As I know I will get that extra 50 points after 2 months once I complete a year and lets assume that my employer is still not giving me a reference letter in that case can I get the work done through a proper immirgation lawyer where they can submit my appointment letter in which employer had stated that they are supporting my PR along with my upto date Pay Stubs of 12 months and a valid reason stating employer is delaying in giving the reference letter.

Will that work?

Also will it be good if I apply my and to be Wife’s PR file together once I complete a year?

Will appreciate your answer on this.

Thanks in advance.

 

[jes_ON]

Also will it be good if I apply my and to be Wife’s PR file together once I complete a year?

Does your wife know you are planning to get married again in March? (Joking). Congratulations on your upcoming wedding.

It does not help to refer to your fiancee as your wife, if you are not yet legally married. Are you already legally married?

First - YES YES YES the best idea is to apply with your wife as a co-applicant. Any other way creates complications. BUT you have to be legally married to do that.

YES, you can apply as soon as you are eligible, and then when you get married, you would be obligated to add your wife to your application. A lot of people do that - but you should expect that to slow things down.

If possible, one thing you could do is complete a legal marriage now, and hold the traditional ceremony as planned.

 

[jes_ON]

Thanks @jes_ON for your time on replying this!

I am definately not leaving the job until I get my PR but its just that I dont to wait too long for PR as next October is elections so want to get it done before any rule changes.

So just one last final thing - As I know I will get that extra 50 points after 2 months once I complete a year and lets assume that my employer is still not giving me a reference letter in that case can I get the work done through a proper immirgation lawyer where they can submit my appointment letter in which employer had stated that they are supporting my PR along with my upto date Pay Stubs of 12 months and a valid reason stating employer is delaying in giving the reference letter.

Not sure what you think the lawyer adds to this. If you feel better with representation, and can afford it, by all means. But the lawyer is not necessary.

The only reason you might want pay stubs is if you work part-time and/or variable hours, and need to document the hours. If you are a full-time employee with regular (salaried) hours, you would only need the T4 and perhaps your most recent paystub (no need for all the paystubs).

The key would be your letter of explanation and documentation.

 

[Bunny Thapar]

Thanks @jes_ON for your time and reply!✌

Really really appreciate it!