Cananadian father and noncanadian mother ( second wife)

[eileenf]

First off, I apologize for misinterpreting your message to say that you were the son.

Are you the 2nd wife? Or a relative of the second wife? No one is trying to compromise your anonymity, but it's hard to give good advice without basic information about who one is talking to.

As others have said, there are no special provisions to facilitate the parent of a minor Canadian citizen to come live in Canada.

You could however say that having lived with the 2nd wife for more than 12 months while not having lived with his first wife at the same time, it would constitute a separation from his first wife and a common law partnership with his 2nd wife. This would enable him to sponsor his 2nd wife for PR as his common law partner, regardless of the marriage being valid. However, in order for that to happen, they must still be together.

A man can not sponsor an ex wife or an ex common law partner if they have split up.

Good advice from Leon overall (as usual), but I disagree that declaring a common law partnership would work in this case. The sponsorship application asks for information on previous spouses and the dates of the relationships. The sponsor would have to lie in this case and say that they were separated (though not legally) from their previous spouse when the common law partnership was established. That would put the applicant at risk of revocation due to misrepresentation. CIC likely has info on the first wife as well since she was probably (?) sponsored to by her spouse to become a Canadian PR.

( If you want to start a life in canada you have to immigrate here on express entry or as a student (basically start from scratch). The child however is a canadian citizen and wont have a problem entering or leaving canada.

As ABs says, the long and the short of it is that the wife would need to immigrate here on her own application, not sponsored by anyone else.

I'm sorry for the situation and wish the second wife lots of luck in moving forward with her son.

 

[Leon]

He doesn't want to take his son to Canada and he can't take care of him ... The son will stay with his mother but the mother wants to travel to Canada and start a new life with her son as his father has his first wife and 2 kids .

As she has split up with the father, he can not sponsor her for PR. Her child can not sponsor her until he is 18 and has income as long as immigration at that point allows the sponsorship of parents so what remains is that she try to immigrate to Canada herself as a live in caregiver or a skilled worker depending on her qualifications.

 

[Leon]

As others have said, there are no special provisions to facilitate the parent of a minor Canadian citizen to come live in Canada. Good advice from Leon overall (as usual), but I disagree that declaring a common law partnership would work in this case. The sponsorship application asks for information on previous spouses and the dates of the relationships. The sponsor would have to lie in this case and say that they were separated (though not legally) from their previous spouse when the common law partnership was established. That would put the applicant at risk of revocation due to misrepresentation. CIC likely has info on the first wife as well since she was probably (?) sponsored to by her spouse to become a Canadian PR.
As ABs says, the long and the short of it is that the wife would need to immigrate here on her own application, not sponsored by anyone else.

The husband must have been separated from his wife for that to work and living with the 2nd wife for at least 12 months continuously. I have not seen the original poster give any detailed info on that but it could be the case, i.e. husband leaves his wife in Canada, marries a woman in his home country and lives with her for more than a year. Many countries have no such thing as legal separation and some provinces in Canada don't either.

As you say, it would of course not work if the husband was two-timing both women by spending some of his time with his first wife because in that case he could not have been considered separated from her as well as if he did not live with his 2nd wife for 12 months without breaks, it could not be considered a common law partnership.

 

[scylla]

He doesn't want to take his son to Canada and he can't take care of him ... The son will stay with his mother but the mother wants to travel to Canada and start a new life with her son as his father has his first wife and 2 kids .

It doesn't matter.

The son is entitled to live in Canada since he is a citizen. His mother is not entitled to live in Canada. Again, if she wants to immigrate to Canada she will have to qualify on her own through one of the economic immigration streams like Express Entry. She cannot benefit from her son's citizenship.

You can ask the same question as many times as you want to - the answer will remain the same.

 

[keesio]

He doesn't want to take his son to Canada and he can't take care of him ... The son will stay with his mother but the mother wants to travel to Canada and start a new life with her son as his father has his first wife and 2 kids .

It has been said many times but here is one more time to leave no doubt:

The mother will have to find a way to immigrate to Canada on her own merit. Having a Canadian son does not help her much here.

 

[Dilvin]

Please I need your help ... If the son's grandpa wants to take the grandson and his mother to Canada , which way is better ??? Grandpa has Canadian citizenship and his own house in Canada , also he can guarantee everything related to the mother and son .... Which way is the best ?? Plz advice

 

[Leon]

Please I need your help ... If the son's grandpa wants to take the grandson and his mother to Canada , which way is better ??? Grandpa has Canadian citizenship and his own house in Canada , also he can guarantee everything related to the mother and son .... Which way is the best ?? Plz advice

The grandfather can not sponsor the mother of his grandson to immigrate to Canada. He could invite her to visit and try to help her get a visit visa or if he has a business or business connections, he might be able to help her get a job offer and a work permit or a study permit if he is willing to support her financially through her studies. If she qualifies to apply as a live-in caregiver, she could try that route as well.

 

[scylla]

Please I need your help ... If the son's grandpa wants to take the grandson and his mother to Canada , which way is better ??? Grandpa has Canadian citizenship and his own house in Canada , also he can guarantee everything related to the mother and son .... Which way is the best ?? Plz advice

The mother cannot be sponsored by anyone through family class. The loop hole you are trying to find doesn't exist.

If she wishes to immigrate to Canada her only option at this time is to qualify on her own.

Leon has given you some good tips above. Note that to qualify as a live-in caregiver, she will need to have at least one year of full time paid work experience in the field (or a related field) or at least six months of full time studies in the field.

 

[Dilvin]

Thanks all ... Another question plz ... What about adaptation of son and his mother by grandfather ?? Is it possible ???

 

[keesio]

Thanks all ... Another question plz ... What about adaptation of son and his mother by grandfather ?? Is it possible ???

Unfortunately I'll need to repeat what scylla said in her last post:

The mother cannot be sponsored by anyone through family class. The loop hole you are trying to find doesn't exist.

 

[Leon]

Thanks all ... Another question plz ... What about adaptation of son and his mother by grandfather ?? Is it possible ???

If it was that easy, a lot of people would not bother immigrate. Just get a Canadian to adopt you and you get citizenship without a test, without medicals or background checks.

However, in CP14, the immigration manual on adoptions, it says:

Grant of Canadian citizenship for persons adopted as adults under A5.1(2)

With respect to adult adoptions, a person adopted by a Canadian citizen while they were 18 years of age or older is eligible for a grant of Canadian citizenship if:

• a genuine parent-child relationship existed before the person turned 18 years of age and at the time of the adoption; and
• the adoption meets the requirements provided for adopted minors [A5.1(1)], with the exception of the best interests of the child.
...
• the adoption was not entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring a status or privilege in relation to immigration or citizenship [A5.1(1)(d)].

So no, forget this, it is not going to work. As already said, if the mother wants to immigrate to Canada, she will have to find her own way. The grandpa might help with a study permit or a job offer and work permit if he can. If she is skilled and grandpa lives in Manitoba and can sponsor her, she will get points for that and might be able to get a PNP nomination. If she is a nurse or has experience as a live-in caregiver or willing to take a 6 month course for it, she might be able to get in that way. However, as a nurse, she probably wouldn't have a big problem getting a job offer and a work permit anyway. If she isn't a nurse, that might be something she'd like to study right now in her home country in order to improve her chances of immigrating.

 

[scylla]

Thanks all ... Another question plz ... What about adaptation of son and his mother by grandfather ?? Is it possible ???

Once again, you need to stop looking for ways to cheat the system. None exist.

If the mother wishes to immigrate to Canada - she has only one option and that is to qualify to immigrate on her own.

It doesn't matter how many times you ask - you are going to get the same answer.

 

[neutral]

What the 2nd wife can do is to find a SINGLE Canadian to marry him and then he sponsors her.

 

[MCBoy]

What the 2nd wife can do is to find a SINGLE Canadian to marry him and then he sponsors her.

Add the word "Genuine" to this - Marriage Scams are being hunted viciously - make sure they do not get caught.

Hoping that the young mom (the second wife with a baby), gets the opportunity to lead a dignified loved life

Insha'Allah. Good Luck!

 

[Leon]

She told me in a PM that she is a refugee from a war torn country and living in another country that can not be considered very safe either so I told her that the grandfather could attempt sponsoring her as a refugee. I think that is her best bet under the circumstances.