Applying Outland & Waiting Inland

[Korea2Canada]

What are the good/bad points of applying outland then going inland to wait for the PR? What would my wife need to enter Canada while waiting for PR process? Travel Visa? Return Tickets?etc...tks

 

[montreal30]

hi we have the same situation. im going to sponsor my husband outland but i want him to have a temporary/tourist visa so that we can be together while waiting for the application. I hope somebody can help us with our concerns. is it possible that they can wait inland until they are called for an interview to our specific country? :

 

[brightredscream]

People do it, but it's dishonest.

 

[blueboom]

People do it, but it's dishonest.

It's not dishonest unless the applicant lies.

Many people wait out their applications on visitor status. Non exempt applicants. are usually denied the visit visa because a partner in Canada is a strong tie, but it won't hurt the sponsorship application.

 

[blueboom]

What are the good/bad points of applying outland then going inland to wait for the PR? What would my wife need to enter Canada while waiting for PR process? Travel Visa? Return Tickets?etc...tks

Upon entry your wife needs to show a valid visitor visa (if required by your country) and proof she will leave Canada before her via expires. Return tickets, proof of a job, or holding property can help. There is no guarantee of entry, even for visa exempt applicants.

 

[Rob_TO]

What are the good/bad points of applying outland then going inland to wait for the PR? What would my wife need to enter Canada while waiting for PR process? Travel Visa? Return Tickets?etc...tks

My fiancee from Korea did this as well. Just stayed here as a visitor while we went through the PR application/processing. It's usually pretty easy for Korean citizens as they are visa-exempt. Best form of proof is to show a return airplane ticket. You could look at buying a fully refundable ticket so you can cancel and get your money back if the return flight isn't needed.

People do it, but it's dishonest.

It's not dishonest at all. CIC actually recommends to people to apply outland to "take advantage" of faster processing times, while they are living in Canada. This is directly from the inland instruction guide: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5289ETOC.asp
The family class is aimed at faster processing of spouse or common‑law partner applications from applicants outside Canada.
Processing times for spouses or common‑law partners in Canada are generally longer.
The person being sponsored can apply to a visa office outside Canada to take advantage of the family class processing standard.

 

[jbkon]

Pro: You get to spend more time with your loved one
Con: You cannot work

We applied out-land but my husband is waiting in-land, it's nice having him around especially since we have a 8 month old ;D

 

[treefour]

People do it, but it's dishonest.

It's not dishonest, I just did it with my wife. I was completely honest with the IO about our situation and they were extremely helpful. We landed with all our paperwork ready (everything organized and forms completed) and he was willing to give us a year visa but in order to do that my wife would have to get another medical done. He then told us to just drive to the border, explain our situation and ask to flagpole so we could get another 6 months. He also made a note on her visitor record that it was a multiple entry document and that she was here with dual intent with a PR app in progress.

I can't say enough about how helpful they were, I mean they helped me get my stack of baggage (10 bags, and a bicycle) off the baggage carousel and out the door.

 

[truesmile]

Not only that . . . CIC encourages 'outland' applications, wherever it is possible to do so.

 

[texancanadian]

My wife and I will be doing this. We applied in december but recently decided to go ahead and pack up to get the long drive over with. I fully expect the IO to be reluctant, but im sure if i tell them my intentions honestly, there shouldnt be a problem

 

[McDutch]

I am currently on a working visa and applied outland as well.

CIC even recommended it.

 

[Rattles]

I just received my PPR and have been here on Visitor's status the whole time. We actually got here in April from Australia and before my six month exempt visitor visa was expired I put in for an extension for a year. Instead of one year from the date of my application they gave me a year from the date they approved it (three months later). It is possible and not dishonest. You are allowed to be here as long as you are here under legal status.

If you have applied and you are in BC (not sure which other Provinces do it) you can also apply for your MSP (medical) coverage under your spouse's account.

Whatever you do, please do not work under the table. There was a story here in Vancouver this week about a woman's husband being sent home because he was caught working while awaiting PR. It just isn't worth the risk. If you can afford to be together without both of you working I would say there is no downside other than the feeling of not doing your part for your family. You have to be able to get over this though. I have struggled with it from day one but the bigger picture and the other option just weren't worth it for us.

 

[Rattles]

People do it, but it's dishonest.

That is a terrible thing to say to people who have done this the honest way. It is allowed and not even discouraged from CIC if you can financially handle the situation.

 

[AnaMaria]

Pro: You get to spend more time with your loved one
Con: You cannot work

Not completely true. Even if you apply inland, you won't be able to work until the stage 1 is approved. And in some cases, if not many, you can get PR outland as quick as you get OWP inland.

Pros: you can travel freely (although coming back to Canada is not guaranteed but it will not affect the application)
you still have a right to appeal
Cons: if you are called for an interview, you have to travel back to where you have applied
if you are from non-exempt country, it is hard to get a visitor visa.

 

[Korea2Canada]

Thanks for the replies (minus the one about being dishonest).


1) Once we move to Canada (while the PR is processing outland) obviously we must notify CIC of our Canadian address in order for the PR or other correspondance to be mailed out...right?

2) Can my wife work while the PR is in process or the PR must be in-hand?

3) What documenst would my wife need to present at the airport when we land in Canada? ( return air ticket, her passport, and....?)

thanks!