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npunite said:
Can i ask you a question?In your case, On what ground was the applicant rejected??
and what are the possibilities of getting through with the ADR. Like my case...would they send it to ADR or call for a full hearing? What do you think?

Just quoting something I said to another person on here earlier:

Being successful at ADR depends on how well you answer your questions and the kind of evidence you provide to back up your answers. You need to know your spouse inside out and vise versa. Learn everything about each other. Make sure you remember every detail on how your relationship started and progressed up to this point. Try not to leave any gaps and make mistakes. You and your spouse have to have to give the same answers in case they ask similar questions. You and your spouse also have to have a solid plan to explain to them if they ask you what you will do if they don't issue the visa to you.

As long as you and your spouse know everything about each other and have a plan for the future together you will do fine at ADR.
HAVE FAITH AND BE CONFIDENT IN YOURSELF AND YOUR MARRIAGE
 
Any VO in my opinion that can't see the difference between a marriage that is real and one that is fake is not qualified to do that job. A lot of people who have genuine marriages are suffering for no reason at all. This appeal process can be so frustrating at times. I wish the VO's could be in our shoes and go through the agony that we have to go through.
 
Mrs.S said:
Any VO in my opinion that can't see the difference between a marriage that is real and one that is fake is not qualified to do that job. A lot of people who have genuine marriages are suffering for no reason at all. This appeal process can be so frustrating at times. I wish the VO's could be in our shoes and go through the agony that we have to go through.

I know.. Its just saddening how previous fraud cases has made those officer suspect each and everyone's application. Thinking about the whole appeal process is very disheartening. The officer must consider the fact that taking time won't help as its the matter of our future and every day is precious for us. No matter whatever decision they make, they need to speed up the process so that we people (one's with the genuine cases) can get the breath of relief at least...
 
Mrs.S said:
Any VO in my opinion that can't see the difference between a marriage that is real and one that is fake is not qualified to do that job. A lot of people who have genuine marriages are suffering for no reason at all. This appeal process can be so frustrating at times. I wish the VO's could be in our shoes and go through the agony that we have to go through.

I totally agree Mrs. S .... They form their decisions based on their own opinions. I believe there should be set rules for these VO's. What gives them the right to insult and call us inappropriate things "sickly old woman who can't have children". Etc. they cross the line and need to realize that each marriage is unique and special, and recognize it as such. I may be chewing an old bone here, but we have constitutional rights and should not have to undergo being humiliated and insulted. So many of the questions asked have no bearing on whether or not a marriage is genuine. Just my opinion.
Keep the faith in loved ones my friends !!
 
Hang in there guys......waiting is the hardest part but eventually, most of the cases are approved. I agree with above posts-----it is absolutely disgusting what they put some people through. NOT ACCEPTABLE ! :D
 
Kistehsia said:
I totally agree Mrs. S .... They form their decisions based on their own opinions. I believe there should be set rules for these VO's. What gives them the right to insult and call us inappropriate things "sickly old woman who can't have children". Etc. they cross the line and need to realize that each marriage is unique and special, and recognize it as such. I may be chewing an old bone here, but we have constitutional rights and should not have to undergo being humiliated and insulted. So many of the questions asked have no bearing on whether or not a marriage is genuine. Just my opinion.
Keep the faith in loved ones my friends !!

I agree with all of you. The VOs can be very bad. But I don't think it is their fault. The fault lies in the system.

All professions have good and bad individuals. My mother's doctor almost killed her because he misdiagnosed kidney failure with iron deficiency. Fortunately my brother was proactive and saw that my mother was very sick ... her skin was grey. Does it take a doctor to se this?

Like the CIC, the medical profession has bad employees and we are somewhat protected because they are accountable. If they kill or injure you, they jeopardize their career.

There is no accountability at CIC. It is obvious from all of our stories. Do you think you are the only person your particular VO has abused (there is no other way to put it). It would take very little effort to introduce a monitoring system and look for patterns of refusals by certain VOs. These VOs could be singled out and disciplined or trained ... something to change the behavior. One of my co-workers had a very simple solution ... have each case reviewed by a group of VOs ... majority opinion wins.

Sometimes, the only way to change things in the government is to make the financial burden this broken system inflicts on us ... the tax payers. I have heard that over 5000 cases are appealed every year. Gsize says most of the appeals are successful. So, what do you think it costs the tax payer to support 5000 cases brought to the ADR ... or even worse to court? I have gone to visit my wife in her country several times ... I did not spend my money in Canada. If she were here we might have a baby and increase our spending in Canada. My step son might start playing soccer and we would buy equipment, etc.

There is a ripple effect to these poor CIC decisions and once we, the tax payers see the cost associated with the poor management we might be able to force CIC to "clean up their act".
 
wintersnow said:
I agree with all of you. The VOs can be very bad. But I don't think it is their fault. The fault lies in the system.

All professions have good and bad individuals. My mother's doctor almost killed her because he misdiagnosed kidney failure with iron deficiency. Fortunately my brother was proactive and saw that my mother was very sick ... her skin was grey. Does it take a doctor to se this?

Like the CIC, the medical profession has bad employees and we are somewhat protected because they are accountable. If they kill or injure you, they jeopardize their career.

There is no accountability at CIC. It is obvious from all of our stories. Do you think you are the only person your particular VO has abused (there is no other way to put it). It would take very little effort to introduce a monitoring system and look for patterns of refusals by certain VOs. These VOs could be singled out and disciplined or trained ... something to change the behavior. One of my co-workers had a very simple solution ... have each case reviewed by a group of VOs ... majority opinion wins.

Sometimes, the only way to change things in the government is to make the financial burden this broken system inflicts on us ... the tax payers. I have heard that over 5000 cases are appealed every year. Gsize says most of the appeals are successful. So, what do you think it costs the tax payer to support 5000 cases brought to the ADR ... or even worse to court? I have gone to visit my wife in her country several times ... I did not spend my money in Canada. If she were here we might have a baby and increase our spending in Canada. My step son might start playing soccer and we would buy equipment, etc.

There is a ripple effect to these poor CIC decisions and once we, the tax payers see the cost associated with the poor management we might be able to force CIC to "clean up their act".

""I agree with all of you. The VOs can be very bad. But I don't think it is their fault. The fault lies in the system "

Although the system does not work efficiently, there are many bad apples who have high rejection rates. CIC knows who they are but they still continue doing what they do best.

You are absolutely correct about cost to taxpayer, but then again Canadians wont do much about it. Too busy trying to put food on the table.

Just be thankful that there are no 'work slowdowns' these days. It went from bad to worse a few years ago.

Keep fighting ! :D
 
Hello everyone! I'm very upset cause my case has been refused because of a little misrepresentation.. Can anyone tell me a good lawyer in Vancouver British Columbia who has dealt with their case..I don't understand one thing more that they have send me the appeal letter to enter sponsorship appeal.. Does that mean to start the sponsorship from the beginning.. Can anyone please contact me through inbox and give me their number so that I can talk to them.. Plz help thank you
 
what is ur case? tell me.

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My husband filed the appeal today. The battle starts now. Having mixed feelings. Hopefully the battle won't last long. :/
 
Mrs.S said:
I chose another lawyer, if you want his info let me know. He was recommended to me by a family friend and he seems really good from my experience with him so far, he gets everything done on time and his fee is reasonably. He charged me $3000 to do my case. Look into as many different lawyers as possible for you, choose one that knows what they are doing, shows interest in your case and you feel comfortable with.
It is really tough decision to hire a right lawyer. Consider following:-
1. Previous track records dealing similar cases
2. Reference from your known people
3. Accessibility and cost
4. Consult with some lawyers and justify
 
npunite said:
My husband filed the appeal today. The battle starts now. Having mixed feelings. Hopefully the battle won't last long. :/

That would depend if you get an ADR. It will also depend where you case will be heard. It will also depend where your file is re-processed, if successful.

Fasten your seatbelt !
 
npunite said:
My husband filed the appeal today. The battle starts now. Having mixed feelings. Hopefully the battle won't last long. :/


My advice to you is try to always remain optimistic through this time, I know it can be difficult but never let your feelings get the better of you.
 
My husband and I would agree with all of you...
the VO's have their agenda. One interview is positive and two hours later negative and yes insulting and condescending.
Am signing appeal papers Monday. Hope everybody digs a little deeper and comes out on top!
Mine would be thru Van.
 
MaryL said:
My husband and I would agree with all of you...
the VO's have their agenda. One interview is positive and two hours later negative and yes insulting and condescending.
Am signing appeal papers Monday. Hope everybody digs a little deeper and comes out on top!
Mine would be thru Van.


Good news it is pretty fast in Van. My experience:

1) Interview and refusal Dec 16, 2014
2) Appealed Dec 29, 2014
3) Received Blue Book Mar 18, 2015
4) Jun 12, 2015: Received notification of ADR date for Aug 10, 2015

So total of about 8 months to get ADR from date of refusal.