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Hey all,

Looks like this thread will be my new home for a bit.
Had my hearing today, lost.
I don't have the slightest idea where to begin, but we are going to file for an appeal because I didn't lose on fair grounds/fair judgement.
If anyone can throw some basic pointers my way, please do. It would help a lot. In the meantime, I'm gonna scroll through some pages of the appeal thread here and see what I can figure out on my own.
To anyone else in the same boat, good luck to you all. Never give up on your loved ones. <3
 
b4roness said:
Hey all,

Looks like this thread will be my new home for a bit.
Had my hearing today, lost.
I don't have the slightest idea where to begin, but we are going to file for an appeal because I didn't lose on fair grounds/fair judgement.
If anyone can throw some basic pointers my way, please do. It would help a lot. In the meantime, I'm gonna scroll through some pages of the appeal thread here and see what I can figure out on my own.
To anyone else in the same boat, good luck to you all. Never give up on your loved ones. <3

I am sorry to hear your news. When you lost in interview did they immediately tell you? Or by letter?
 
I was just received email requesting ppr, ppc, medical , and updated documents from Ottawa. Thought I let you guys know.
 
@ Siva ....yay good luck :) we sent them last week now we wait for them to contact my husband to ask for his passport :)
 
Siva said:
I was just received email requesting ppr, ppc, medical , and updated documents from Ottawa. Thought I let you guys know.

wow happy for you ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D almost there good luck ;D ;D ;D
 
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hi , I won full day hearing for my husband in late November 2014 and recived written confirmation 10 days later. Now 2 almost 2 months are passed , nothing received from visa office ...please let me know ,what would be the next step and how long will it take after hearing ?
 
ajarupan said:
I am sorry to hear your news. When you lost in interview did they immediately tell you? Or by letter?

Oh this was immediate. This guy already knew he was gonna fail me. I figured it out immediately, simply by the questions he was initially asking at the beginning of the interview, and my own questions to him about minor important details, to which replied "I'm sorry I haven't looked over all the evidence."
Like, REALLY? I was about to ask him how in the world does a visa officer AVOID the gigantic stack of evidence HE asked for, plus the stack from last year (which he had to admit to not looking over either.) He only read through our letters, and that's pretty much it. That and the general application information. Black and white. No gray allowed LOL. In other words, he coulda been a decent man and sent me a darn refusal letter long ago, and saved us the hassle of this expensive ass trip to Vienna, and not force me to come in just to tell me that he hasn't looked at any evidence, despite the fact that the evidence was heavily flooded with info as to WHY my husband could not visit me...
BUT, oddly enough, I think he knows that he has no shot at winning the appeal process. We're the winners in that one. It's as clear as day and he outed himself a few times, which my husband will bring up in court.

An officer SHOULD NOT personify spousal relationships based ON HIS OWN RELATIONSHIP, which he did! He said his own wife would, and i quote, 'KILL' him, if he didn't visit her often... YOU DON'T DO THAT! Each case and each couple is an individual entity, with individual customs, rights, feelings, situations, etc. Making something so personal and basing other peoples relationships around his own ideals is NOT correct in such scenarios. Leave that to couples counseling, buddy. You're an immigration officer, you should be NEUTRAL. Leave your personal crap at home.

He said, and i quote, "If your husband cared for you, he would have risked it (losing his job + being stranded) to see you!"
NOW THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE, for an officer to state such a stupid remark. If my husband lost his job, we'd have lost the case because he'd have no way to 'sponsor' me.
(someone on here recently lost because their wife, who has a job, has 2 dependents under her... and CIC stated that she cannot sponsor the husband because of that supposedly... or something like that... skimmed through it.)

And the next fun fact from mister officer: "I'm sure his bosses would understand if he got stranded in Europe for a couple of weeks extra, or longer. It's a nice area of the world to be stuck in!"
Yeah, officer! Nice for someone with your paycheck and stature! WONDERFUL, EXPENSIVE AREA! You wanna pay our bills, sir?
(holy crap i paid 7 euros for a cup of coffee today.... don't judge me.... lol)

Otherwise, considering all the other 5000 pages of bank records, skype, email, gifts, cards, facebook messages/pic, pictures, wedding, etc evidence... he said ALL THAT WAS FINE AND WE HAD MORE THAN ENOUGH.
BUT the fact that my husband, who has been waiting to renew his pr card a year now (due to CIC mistakes, literally) is being called a fraud, is disgusting. How dare he say my husband, who bends over backward to keep my happy, fed, safe, and sane, supposedly doesn't love me because WE didn't want to risk him losing his job?
Please tell me, am I out of my mind with this rant? Have we really done something so horrific to have this happen to us?
We are taking him to court asap. I told the officer that, without pardon, and that his negative thoughts and decisions will not break our marriage apart, if that was his goal.
What a piece of work.
 
b4roness said:
Hey all,

Looks like this thread will be my new home for a bit.
Had my hearing today, lost.
I don't have the slightest idea where to begin, but we are going to file for an appeal because I didn't lose on fair grounds/fair judgement.
If anyone can throw some basic pointers my way, please do. It would help a lot. In the meantime, I'm gonna scroll through some pages of the appeal thread here and see what I can figure out on my own.
To anyone else in the same boat, good luck to you all. Never give up on your loved ones.

sorry they are doing this to you and yours. I know how you feel. Waiting is the hardest part. Best to keep busy and remember, everyday you are apart means 1 day closer. ::)
 
b4roness said:
Oh this was immediate. This guy already knew he was gonna fail me. I figured it out immediately, simply by the questions he was initially asking at the beginning of the interview, and my own questions to him about minor important details, to which replied "I'm sorry I haven't looked over all the evidence."
Like, REALLY? I was about to ask him how in the world does a visa officer AVOID the gigantic stack of evidence HE asked for, plus the stack from last year (which he had to admit to not looking over either.) He only read through our letters, and that's pretty much it. That and the general application information. Black and white. No gray allowed LOL. In other words, he coulda been a decent man and sent me a darn refusal letter long ago, and saved us the hassle of this expensive ass trip to Vienna, and not force me to come in just to tell me that he hasn't looked at any evidence, despite the fact that the evidence was heavily flooded with info as to WHY my husband could not visit me...
BUT, oddly enough, I think he knows that he has no shot at winning the appeal process. We're the winners in that one. It's as clear as day and he outed himself a few times, which my husband will bring up in court.

An officer SHOULD NOT personify spousal relationships based ON HIS OWN RELATIONSHIP, which he did! He said his own wife would, and i quote, 'KILL' him, if he didn't visit her often... YOU DON'T DO THAT! Each case and each couple is an individual entity, with individual customs, rights, feelings, situations, etc. Making something so personal and basing other peoples relationships around his own ideals is NOT correct in such scenarios. Leave that to couples counseling, buddy. You're an immigration officer, you should be NEUTRAL. Leave your personal crap at home.

He said, and i quote, "If your husband cared for you, he would have risked it (losing his job + being stranded) to see you!"
NOW THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE, for an officer to state such a stupid remark. If my husband lost his job, we'd have lost the case because he'd have no way to 'sponsor' me.
(someone on here recently lost because their wife, who has a job, has 2 dependents under her... and CIC stated that she cannot sponsor the husband because of that supposedly... or something like that... skimmed through it.)

And the next fun fact from mister officer: "I'm sure his bosses would understand if he got stranded in Europe for a couple of weeks extra, or longer. It's a nice area of the world to be stuck in!"
Yeah, officer! Nice for someone with your paycheck and stature! WONDERFUL, EXPENSIVE AREA! You wanna pay our bills, sir?
(holy crap i paid 7 euros for a cup of coffee today.... don't judge me.... lol)

Otherwise, considering all the other 5000 pages of bank records, skype, email, gifts, cards, facebook messages/pic, pictures, wedding, etc evidence... he said ALL THAT WAS FINE AND WE HAD MORE THAN ENOUGH.
BUT the fact that my husband, who has been waiting to renew his pr card a year now (due to CIC mistakes, literally) is being called a fraud, is disgusting. How dare he say my husband, who bends over backward to keep my happy, fed, safe, and sane, supposedly doesn't love me because WE didn't want to risk him losing his job?
Please tell me, am I out of my mind with this rant? Have we really done something so horrific to have this happen to us?
We are taking him to court asap. I told the officer that, without pardon, and that his negative thoughts and decisions will not break our marriage apart, if that was his goal.
What a piece of work.

so sorry to hear this. Stay strong and best to keep busy. Eventually, you will be together. We fought 5 years to bring my CL here. He landed in April 2014 and our relationship is stronger than ever. ::)
 
b4roness said:
Oh this was immediate. This guy already knew he was gonna fail me. I figured it out immediately, simply by the questions he ....

b4roness ... many of the people on this site are here for the same reason you are. Incompetent VOs. I remember one lady saying the VO referred to her as "barren". In my case, the VO actually called my step son a bastard! My wife is Chinese, and that is possibly the worst insult you can give. The VO even asked my wife why she wasn't looking for a Japanese husband. My wife had to remind him that the Chinese have a bad history with the Japanese ... due to the events of World War 2.

You would think that an a foreign diplomat would know something about the history and customs in the country he is assigned to. I really think most of these VOs have ascended to their position through tenure rather than skill. This is often the way of the government employee.
 
Definitely will, and will win too! They think they're gonna break us up? Heck no! Fools are just wasting our time with silly negative decisions like this one. I mean, focus on HARD cases, not something so obviously real. Evidence doesn't lie. My knowledge of our relationship inside out cannot be faked. But this was forced, he did this on purpose. It makes absolutely no sense. There's too much going for us, and then some. He based his decision solely on HIS own view of what a 'young married couple' can and cannot take (he can't imagine that we survived being apart 2 years and still love each other, impossible in his mind.)
Officer clearly never heard the quote "Distance makes the heart grow fonder."