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[zardoz]

Does anyone know how you can upload a document on the forum? 'helpseeker' sent me her refusal letter which their representative sent saying it's from CIC. She has doubts about its authenticity and I don't know what to make of it. Here's what is says:
1. it is a sponsorship application but the address is, "Citizenship Case Processing Centre, PO Box 12000, Sydney, NS B1P 7C2" - this is the address for citizenship applications. Strange aye?
2. It says "Client: xxxxxxx " - client ID is usually 8 digits not 7.
3. It says "File: xxxxxxx" - file number always has the letter 'F' and 9 numbers like so: Fxxx xxx xxx
4. It seems the letter has skipped the "sponsor approval" stage (stage 1) and just gone straight to rejecting the application because of 4 reasons.
a) CPC-M does not evaluate the relationship during stage 1, right?
b) It is the overseas visa office that evaluates the relationship during stage 2, right?
c) Sydney, NS is not involved in Sponsorship applications.
5. here are 4 reasons for refusal:
a) not satisfied with genuineness of marital relationship
b) you gave false address location information about maintaining contact. (Apparently, her husband gave his employer incorrect address information)
c) did not provide satisfactory communication details which would establish the relationship was genuine and in cohabitation between you and your spouse. - Does CIC really write all these details?
d) you did not provide proof for the money transfer made by you to your spouse as stated in the application.
6. Letter is signed by "S. Cordina, First Secretary (Immigration) - do secretaries sign refusal letters?

What do you all think?

Stick it in a public Dropbox area and generate the shared file url. Then post that url on here? It sounds suspicious.

 

[Lenchik]

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[SenoritaBella]

Thanks. I don't think I quite understand what to do. How can I find this dropboax area - on the forum or online?

This letter is something to see... without the little inconsistencies, it could probably pass smell test.

Stick it in a public Dropbox area and generate the shared file url. Then post that url on here? It sounds suspicious.

 

[mikeymyke]

Can you take a screenshot of the letter, upload the image to http://postimage.org/

 

[sunshinemrc]

Does anyone know how you can upload a document on the forum? 'helpseeker' sent me her refusal letter which their representative sent saying it's from CIC. She has doubts about its authenticity and I don't know what to make of it. Here's what is says:
1. it is a sponsorship application but the address is, "Citizenship Case Processing Centre, PO Box 12000, Sydney, NS B1P 7C2" - this is the address for citizenship applications. Strange aye?
2. It says "Client: xxxxxxx " - client ID is usually 8 digits not 7.
3. It says "File: xxxxxxx" - file number always has the letter 'F' and 9 numbers like so: Fxxx xxx xxx
4. It seems the letter has skipped the "sponsor approval" stage (stage 1) and just gone straight to rejecting the application because of 4 reasons.
a) CPC-M does not evaluate the relationship during stage 1, right?
b) It is the overseas visa office that evaluates the relationship during stage 2, right?
c) Sydney, NS is not involved in Sponsorship applications.
5. here are 4 reasons for refusal:
a) not satisfied with genuineness of marital relationship
b) you gave false address location information about maintaining contact. (Apparently, her husband gave his employer incorrect address information)
c) did not provide satisfactory communication details which would establish the relationship was genuine and in cohabitation between you and your spouse. - Does CIC really write all these details?
d) you did not provide proof for the money transfer made by you to your spouse as stated in the application.
6. Letter is signed by "S. Cordina, First Secretary (Immigration) - do secretaries sign refusal letters?

What do you all think?

Based on the information you listed above, I have doubts this is a refusal letter from a visa office. What I would do first and foremost is investigate the representative, google search maybe to find out if there are any complaints against them. What does e-cas state? is helpseeker sure the sponsorship application was rejected?

 

[SenoritaBella]

Here is a direct link to the letter: http://s27.postimg.org/kxakgpm9f/Immigration_letter_2.jpg

She is aware I was going to try and post it to the forum for more help.

I learnt something new. Thanks for the tip.

Can you take a screenshot of the letter, upload the image to http://postimage.org/

 

[SenoritaBella]

Well, that's what her husband says and she is not in Canada. Apparently, he applied in February and they were rejected in April. If you ask me, I don't think the application was ever submitted. To believe this letter, you have to believe CIC has changed their processes which is not feasible.

Based on the information you listed above, I have doubts this is a refusal letter from a visa office. What I would do first and foremost is investigate the representative, google search maybe to find out if there are any complaints against them. What does e-cas state? is helpseeker sure the sponsorship application was rejected?

 

[sunshinemrc]

Well, that's what her husband says and she is not in Canada. Apparently, he applied in February and they were rejected in April. If you ask me, I don't think the application was ever submitted. To believe this letter, you have to believe CIC has changed their processes which is not feasible.

They applied this past Feb? (2014). This is highly unusual. Did they receive an AOR, SA? Have they ever been able to log into e-cas?
Also when it comes to reason for refusal, one would have had the opportunity to have an interview. I think an Interview is mandatory for a refusal based on "genuineness of the relationship".

 

[SenoritaBella]

Yes, Feb 2014. I don't know if they received AOR or SA. I really don't think she will know the answers to your questions because it appears she was kept in the dark about the process.

They applied this past Feb? (2014). This is highly unusual. Did they receive an AOR, SA? Have they ever been able to log into e-cas?
Also when it comes to reason for refusal, one would have had the opportunity to have an interview. I think an Interview is mandatory for a refusal based on "genuineness of the relationship".

 

[sunshinemrc]

Yes, Feb 2014. I don't know if they received AOR or SA. I really don't think she will know the answers to your questions because it appears she was kept in the dark about the process.

I am sorry to say, because this will cause them great distress, but I am nearly 100% positive that this representative is not legit. Based on the timeline, and applying outland, it is impossible that the visa office made their decision to reject without an interview for the reasons listed in the letter. With an outland app CPC-Mississauga only determines the eligibility of the sponsor, and in general they review the file to make sure all items required are present. CPC MISS re-organizes the file in a way that they know the visa office abroad has to receive it. Than the file (paper copy) is transferred to that particular visa office with a special consular courier.

have you tried searching the representative's name on google to see if anything comes up? Is this person registered as a consultant?

 

[SenoritaBella]

Here is the letter: http://s27.postimg.org/kxakgpm9f/Immigration_letter_2.jpg

Look at the address of the office at the top. It is the office that processes citizenship applications. lol

I don't know the representative's name but I'll ask her. He even asked for $30,000 to file an appeal. It's terrible the things fellow humans can do to others.

I am sorry to say, because this will cause them great distress, but I am nearly 100% positive that this representative is not legit. Based on the timeline, and applying outland, it is impossible that the visa office made their decision to reject without an interview for the reasons listed in the letter. With an outland app CPC-Mississauga only determines the eligibility of the sponsor, and in general they review the file to make sure all items required are present. CPC MISS re-organizes the file in a way that they know the visa office abroad has to receive it. Than the file (paper copy) is transferred to that particular visa office with a special consular courier.

have you tried searching the representative's name on google to see if anything comes up? Is this person registered as a consultant?

 

[charliem]

CIC letters are never signed with officer names (need I look at anything else)
That was a very amateurish attempt to defraud someone. Sad. Sad.

Here is a direct link to the letter: http://s27.postimg.org/kxakgpm9f/Immigration_letter_2.jpg

She is aware I was going to try and post it to the forum for more help.

I learnt something new. Thanks for the tip.

 

[gango girl]

Here is a direct link to the letter: http://s27.postimg.org/kxakgpm9f/Immigration_letter_2.jpg

She is aware I was going to try and post it to the forum for more help.

I learnt something new. Thanks for the tip.

dear friends do you'll believe that the secretary Immigration will send the letter to the applicant\ sponsor?
and do you'll believe that they mention their names on it?
other thing i haven't seen that they mention the reasons like this
i don't know i said according to my knowledge
its confused........

 

[zardoz]

I also believe this to be a scam. Easy money if the applicant doesn't have access to a forum like this.

1) Representative takes application and fee
2) Representative waits for a couple of months.
3) Applicant is sent fake refusal.

4) Applicant gives Representative lots of money for appeal
5) Representative waits for a couple of months
6) Applicant is sent fake appeal refusal.

I would contact CIC via the call centre and ask if they can see the application at all.

 

[helpseeker12]

I also believe this to be a scam. Easy money if the applicant doesn't have access to a forum like this.

1) Representative takes application and fee
2) Representative waits for a couple of months.
3) Applicant is sent fake refusal.

4) Applicant gives Representative lots of money for appeal
5) Representative waits for a couple of months
6) Applicant is sent fake appeal refusal.

I would contact CIC via the call centre and ask if they can see the application at all.

Thanku all for your valuable words and opinions.
I would be waiting for your reply as i am unable and clueless to contact CIC via call centre as in my country Canadian embassy simply refuse to answer any query.