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maniac2403

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ganapathi said:
In schedule 8 i mentioned only 3 major duties. Is that not sufficient for Vo to understand that i am in noc 2171.
Most times that is not sufficient, hence all of us recommend to mention duties in the form itself and if needed, attach a separate sheet mentioning the duties. Looking at what you have filled in schedule 8, it doesn't appear to be substantial. That being said, your reference letter does provide the duties in detail.

The duties in schedule 8 looks very similar to NOC description (picked few key statements from the description). My GCMS notes stated that "duties appear to be similar to HSRDC NOC description.". It went to a second officer who set eligibility as PASS, and my application was approved.

Your case is nowhere close to rejection and most likely (IMO), you will be asked to provide clarifications. This is not guaranteed, but can happen.
 

ganapathi

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Infosec said:
Ganapathi,

Just b'cas you put 2171 in the doesn't mean, you fall under 2171, the first criteria that they look is under what NoC your WP has been given. Give me the exact name/ designation that has been printed on your WP. If its a open WP its a different issue.
I am on post grad open work permit
 

ganapathi

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maniac2403 said:
Most times that is not sufficient, hence all of us recommend to mention duties in the form itself and if needed, attach a separate sheet mentioning the duties. Looking at what you have filled in schedule 8, it doesn't appear to be substantial. That being said, your reference letter does provide the duties in detail.

The duties in schedule 8 looks very similar to NOC description (picked few key statements from the description). My GCMS notes stated that "duties appear to be similar to HSRDC NOC description.". It went to a second officer who set eligibility as PASS, and my application was approved.

Your case is nowhere close to rejection and most likely (IMO), you will be asked to provide clarifications. This is not guaranteed, but can happen.
Can i update schedule 8 form now.
What did you do when they said that your job duties matches exactly. Did you update any letter or else waited until second officer to review.
 

maniac2403

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18-11-2013
Doc's Request.
29-05-2014
AOR Received.
27-12-2013
IELTS Request
Provided with application
File Transfer...
04-06-2014 (ECAS In Process)
Med's Request
10-06-2014
Med's Done....
11-06-2014
Interview........
None
Passport Req..
20-06-2014
VISA ISSUED...
27-06-2014 (Visa stamp) 9-07-2014 (Passport Received)
LANDED..........
10-07-2014
ganapathi said:
Can i update schedule 8 form now.
What did you do when they said that your job duties matches exactly. Did you update any letter or else waited until second officer to review.
I just waited and I received my RPRF request shortly thereafter. So, don't worry too much, wait for the second officer to review.
 

ganapathi

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maniac2403 said:
I just waited and I received my RPRF request shortly thereafter. So, don't worry too much, wait for the second officer to review.
By seeing your timeline. What are the extra docs they asked you. Is it related to empolyment
 

maniac2403

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AOR Received.
27-12-2013
IELTS Request
Provided with application
File Transfer...
04-06-2014 (ECAS In Process)
Med's Request
10-06-2014
Med's Done....
11-06-2014
Interview........
None
Passport Req..
20-06-2014
VISA ISSUED...
27-06-2014 (Visa stamp) 9-07-2014 (Passport Received)
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10-07-2014
ganapathi said:
By seeing your timeline. What are the extra docs they asked you. Is it related to empolyment
They asked me for a LOE for a job that I was not claiming under CEC. I got the letter regardless, but I was told by the VO, that they requested the documents in error.
 

yixiaop26

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ganapathi said:
In schedule 8 i mentioned only 3 major duties. Is that not sufficient for Vo to understand that i am in noc 2171.
as you said, they would major refer the letter.
 

ganapathi

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any more valuable suggestions please???
 

ZingyDNA

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Sent with Application
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maniac2403 said:
The duties in schedule 8 looks very similar to NOC description (picked few key statements from the description). My GCMS notes stated that "duties appear to be similar to HSRDC NOC description.". It went to a second officer who set eligibility as PASS, and my application was approved.
I think your situation was a little different than the OP's, to say the least. Just look at the wording: "appear to be similar to HSRDC description" vs. "does NOT meet requirements". The former sounds not sure and leave the opinion to a second reviewer, but the latter is a made opinion that needs to be overturned by a more experienced VO...
 

ganapathi

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2171
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22-04-2014
AOR Received.
29-05-2014
Med's Request
10-02-2015
Med's Done....
04-03-2015
Passport Req..
29-04-2015
VISA ISSUED...
11-05-2015
LANDED..........
16-05-2015
ZingyDNA said:
I think your situation was a little different than the OP's, to say the least. Just look at the wording: "appear to be similar to HSRDC description" vs. "does NOT meet requirements". The former sounds not sure and leave the opinion to a second reviewer, but the latter is a made opinion that needs to be overturned by a more experienced VO...
So no need to update the reference letter
 

Goku

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ganapathi said:
So no need to update the reference letter
Do not send anything until and unless asked. Sending documents based in what you think can resolve that issue can sometimes make situation more worse. Wait for a couple of weeks more and try ordering GCMS notes again.
 

ZingyDNA

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IELTS Request
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Med's Request
21-02-2014 (principal applicant)
Med's Done....
07-03-2014 (both, upfront for spouse)
Passport Req..
10-04-2014
VISA ISSUED...
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LANDED..........
13-06-2014
ganapathi said:
So no need to update the reference letter
If the second reviewer needs to clarify anything in your original ref letter, he/she will let you know. I think to overturn the first VO's opinion, you'll likely be asked for something, so better be alert to check your emails. The stressful part is you don't know WHEN the second reviewer will take a look at your file...
 

maniac2403

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Visa Office......
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NOC Code......
1122
Job Offer........
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App. Filed.......
18-11-2013
Doc's Request.
29-05-2014
AOR Received.
27-12-2013
IELTS Request
Provided with application
File Transfer...
04-06-2014 (ECAS In Process)
Med's Request
10-06-2014
Med's Done....
11-06-2014
Interview........
None
Passport Req..
20-06-2014
VISA ISSUED...
27-06-2014 (Visa stamp) 9-07-2014 (Passport Received)
LANDED..........
10-07-2014
ZingyDNA said:
I think your situation was a little different than the OP's, to say the least. Just look at the wording: "appear to be similar to HSRDC description" vs. "does NOT meet requirements". The former sounds not sure and leave the opinion to a second reviewer, but the latter is a made opinion that needs to be overturned by a more experienced VO...
Yes slightly different, as I did not have the words does NOT meet requirements. But as the OP I did have the words "supporting docs does appear to match" and "second review required". That being said, I agree with everyone here, that best bet is to wait and check emails regularly.
 

loklokbebe

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From my GCMS note, I have the similar comment as maniac2403. And it went to second review.

I didn't get any emails or calls for requesting documents. Should I send another LOE with more detail?

maniac2403: May I know did you send any updated documents after? (eg: a more detailed LOE )