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For all those who sent their applications today oct 11 2017 what mistakes did you make?

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Imam Gomaa

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I contacted Canada post and hopefully, they will be able to return I back to me. Plus, I contacted CIC and the agent told me that as for the old application there is no problem but as for the pictures you can send another ones with the tracking number and they might be able to track your package and correct it. But, nothing is guaranteed.
Last question for your guys:
I lost my COPR, but I have my family members' COPRs and my name on them and my signature as well. I also applied for Verification of status in Canada and I wrote an explanation letter plus the VOS receipt. Do you thank that will be enough to process the application if resend it with correct information? Keep in mind that I have my PR card.
 

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I contacted Canada post and hopefully, they will be able to return I back to me. Plus, I contacted CIC and the agent told me that as for the old application there is no problem but as for the pictures you can send another ones with the tracking number and they might be able to track your package and correct it. But, nothing is guaranteed.
Last question for your guys:
I lost my COPR, but I have my family members' COPRs and my name on them and my signature as well. I also applied for Verification of status in Canada and I wrote an explanation letter plus the VOS receipt. Do you thank that will be enough to process the application if resend it with correct information? Keep in mind that I have my PR card.
Are you sure ? I could've bet they would not accept the old forms.

COPR is not required for the application to be processed at this time. They may want to see it during the interview and/or oath.
 

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Mistake 1:
Question 11.
I put "Yes" checkmark for "I was employed", but forgot to explicitly specify "No" for other options such as "I was in school".
Hopefully, it's not a big issue because I was continuously employed by the same company during my whole stay in Canada.

Mistake 2:
Question 13.
I did NOT check either "YES" or "NO" checkboxes pertaining to whether I held immigrant status at a different country. HOWEVER, I did fill the table below it,indicating that I hold citizenship in my native country.

Are those mistakes worthy of a return of my application ?
I made the same mistake as your mistake 1. I wonder if they will return the application because of this.
Thoughts anyone?
 

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Q19: Why is it important that the application date used in the calculation and the date of signature on the application form and the calculation printout be the same?

A19: This is important so that there is no confusion on your application date because your eligibility for citizenship is based on that date. If there is confusion, there will be delays in processing your application while we try to clarify the situation, especially if one of the dates makes you ineligible for citizenship. If the confusion cannot be resolved, the information appearing in your application form will be taken as the correct information and used to determine eligibility.

https://eservices.cic.gc.ca/rescalc/redir.do?redir=faq#Q15



Hopefully difference of one day won't be an issue.

I also missed the No ticks on Student and Self employed :(
This is an amazing finding thanks RSN. I completed everything on the 11th but due to the forms not being printable I had to filled it out again like most of us and then I signed the forms on the 12 and I left the calculator signed on the 11th. I was worried that my application was going to be returned but this gives me a little hope

Cheers
 

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Mistake 1:
Question 11.
I put "Yes" checkmark for "I was employed", but forgot to explicitly specify "No" for other options such as "I was in school".
Hopefully, it's not a big issue because I was continuously employed by the same company during my whole stay in Canada.

Mistake 2:
Question 13.
I did NOT check either "YES" or "NO" checkboxes pertaining to whether I held immigrant status at a different country. HOWEVER, I did fill the table below it,indicating that I hold citizenship in my native country.

Are those mistakes worthy of a return of my application ?
@spyfy can you please provide your opinion on Mistake 1 ?
 

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@spyfy can you please provide your opinion on Mistake 1 ?
Disclaimer: this is just an opinion based on my intuition, not from own experience.

This is a classic case where your fate depends on the mood of who does completeness check. If they are reasonable, they will read from the table below those questions that the answer to the other items is "no". But they might be of the strict kind and deem the application as incomplete. So it might very well be the case that one applicant will have no issues with this mistake and the other one gets their application back.

I don't feel like anyone on here can say with certainty which of the two will happen.

That said: keep in mind that until you hear from IRCC there is no point in worrying about this. I know this sounds very philosophical, but try not to worry about things that are out of your hands for the moment.
 
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Hi,

I didn't write my name on the back of the photos

Would it be an issue ?
 

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Disclaimer: this is just an opinion based on my intuition, not from own experience.

This is a classic case where your fate depends on the mood of who does completeness check. If they are reasonable, they will read from the table below those questions that the answer to the other items is "no". But they might be of the strict kind and deem the application as incomplete. So it might very well be the case that one applicant will have no issues with this mistake and the other one gets their application back.

I don't feel like anyone on here can say with certainty which of the two will happen.

That said: keep in mind that until you hear from IRCC there is no point in worrying about this. I know this sounds very philosophical, but try not to worry about things that are out of your hands for the moment.

Hmm .. seemed like a straight forward question .. "check all that apply (you may check more than one)" ..

It says you may check more than one .. implication being, if it applies to you ..
If you have just worked the whole eligibility period .. then it's just 'i was employed' .. tick yes ..
If none of the others apply .. just leave them ..

At least that is my understanding of it ..

Now, if any others apply to you and you don't click yes .. then it would probably be an issue ..
 

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Hi,

I didn't write my name on the back of the photos

Would it be an issue ?
i doubt because a lot of others did not , i had to insist for the lady to stamp both too, if its an issue worst case scenario they will request for new photos just as an update
 
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ibry

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I sent my application with a mistake,the calculator of presence day i did it like 4 days ago but i signed only today while sigining my application before sending it,and they said that the signing date of the calculator should Match the calculator,...its really a dumb mistake,...do u think they will return my application for something like that ?
most likely but please call
 

razerblade

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Hmm .. seemed like a straight forward question .. "check all that apply (you may check more than one)" ..

It says you may check more than one .. implication being, if it applies to you ..
If you have just worked the whole eligibility period .. then it's just 'i was employed' .. tick yes ..
If none of the others apply .. just leave them ..

At least that is my understanding of it ..

Now, if any others apply to you and you don't click yes .. then it would probably be an issue ..
For what it's worth, that;s how my brain processed it when I was filling in the form. I hope the officers going over the forms also think like me.
 

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It appears there are many who rushed applying and are now in a wait and see how it goes mode.

Hopefully some AOR reports will help to put some of the ambiguities and gaffes into perspective, but those are not likely to happen for a few more weeks, and there are so many variables at best they will only offer some idea about things can go, not much about how things are likely to go let alone how they will for sure go.

For those still in the process of preparing their applications: slow down, relax, read the instructions again, and then again, do rough drafts and scrawl "ROUGH DRAFT" across them (so a rough draft does not accidentally get put in the envelope), set the drafts aside for at least a day. Even better to do a completely separate rough draft and compare the rough drafts. A little concentration and patience at this stage can save a lot of anxiety and consternation down the road, and get you to the oath sooner.




Assessing particular omissions in the abstract is near impossible, since so much depends on the context, including particulars (date, duration, relationship to other information, among many more variables). Even an expert (which I am NOT) cannot reliably assess something like this without a lot, lot more information, and even then that would at best offer a range of risks and possibilities. And on top of that, how a particular total-stranger-bureaucrat will perceive it, one can guess but little more.

My comments above about incompleteness are not about how complete the applicant's information is, but about filling the form out completely and attaching all necessary documents. The completeness check only looks for things like the failure to check off or respond to this or that item, or for gaps in work or address history.

Substantive omissions, like failing to disclose work history (especially abroad) or school history (especially abroad) during the eligibility period, are not the subject of a completeness check. The substance of reported history is examined and assessed in the general assessment phase.

Similarly information about having status in other countries.

For these things, when (the date) matters. A student visa prior to the eligibility period should not be a big deal. A student visa during the eligibility period but during a time period the applicant accurately discloses presence and absence from Canada should not be too serious an omission, unless there is something indicating the applicant was abroad in school at a time the applicant was in Canada. These are just isolated examples of other circumstances which can factor into how someone at IRCC is likely to perceive the omission, if and when they discover it of course. (Probably best to bring it up during the interview if IRCC has not already discovered and asked about it, correct the information, and explain the mistake.)

And as noted before, things are relative. Failing to disclose permanent resident status in another country is far more likely to cause concerns than failing to disclose a temporary resident status, since a person with permanent resident status in a country is, of course, more likely to spend time in that country, have ties in that country, compelling IRCC to scrutinize the applicant's history more closely . . . and of course, forgetting to disclose an old student visa does not hint so much that it was deliberate whereas failing to disclose PR status elsewhere is something few would forget about, suggesting its omission is more likely deliberate.

Overall: the omission of this probably is a minor issue. What probably matters more is whether or not, in the scheme of the whole application, it appears to be an innocent oversight or not. How a mistake or omission affects IRCC's perception of the applicant's credibility is huge but very difficult to predict . . . except, of course, big omissions of important details, those are bound to make a very negative impression and seriously compromise the applicant's credibility in the eyes of a total-stranger-bureaucrat at IRCC.

exactly there were thread warning most to chill , but people were in a hurry it really hurts to send first and be pushed back cause of these common errors, , i am waiting for November before applying so far the rule is not reversed before then lol. i would like to hear feedbacks from the previous applications before applying if possible
 

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One of my friends forgot to add a course he took part time while being employed full time. Do you think it will matter?
 

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It appears there are many who rushed applying and are now in a wait and see how it goes mode.

Hopefully some AOR reports will help to put some of the ambiguities and gaffes into perspective, but those are not likely to happen for a few more weeks, and there are so many variables at best they will only offer some idea about things can go, not much about how things are likely to go let alone how they will for sure go.

For those still in the process of preparing their applications: slow down, relax, read the instructions again, and then again, do rough drafts and scrawl "ROUGH DRAFT" across them (so a rough draft does not accidentally get put in the envelope), set the drafts aside for at least a day. Even better to do a completely separate rough draft and compare the rough drafts. A little concentration and patience at this stage can save a lot of anxiety and consternation down the road, and get you to the oath sooner.




Assessing particular omissions in the abstract is near impossible, since so much depends on the context, including particulars (date, duration, relationship to other information, among many more variables). Even an expert (which I am NOT) cannot reliably assess something like this without a lot, lot more information, and even then that would at best offer a range of risks and possibilities. And on top of that, how a particular total-stranger-bureaucrat will perceive it, one can guess but little more.

My comments above about incompleteness are not about how complete the applicant's information is, but about filling the form out completely and attaching all necessary documents. The completeness check only looks for things like the failure to check off or respond to this or that item, or for gaps in work or address history.

Substantive omissions, like failing to disclose work history (especially abroad) or school history (especially abroad) during the eligibility period, are not the subject of a completeness check. The substance of reported history is examined and assessed in the general assessment phase.

Similarly information about having status in other countries.

For these things, when (the date) matters. A student visa prior to the eligibility period should not be a big deal. A student visa during the eligibility period but during a time period the applicant accurately discloses presence and absence from Canada should not be too serious an omission, unless there is something indicating the applicant was abroad in school at a time the applicant was in Canada. These are just isolated examples of other circumstances which can factor into how someone at IRCC is likely to perceive the omission, if and when they discover it of course. (Probably best to bring it up during the interview if IRCC has not already discovered and asked about it, correct the information, and explain the mistake.)

And as noted before, things are relative. Failing to disclose permanent resident status in another country is far more likely to cause concerns than failing to disclose a temporary resident status, since a person with permanent resident status in a country is, of course, more likely to spend time in that country, have ties in that country, compelling IRCC to scrutinize the applicant's history more closely . . . and of course, forgetting to disclose an old student visa does not hint so much that it was deliberate whereas failing to disclose PR status elsewhere is something few would forget about, suggesting its omission is more likely deliberate.

Overall: the omission of this probably is a minor issue. What probably matters more is whether or not, in the scheme of the whole application, it appears to be an innocent oversight or not. How a mistake or omission affects IRCC's perception of the applicant's credibility is huge but very difficult to predict . . . except, of course, big omissions of important details, those are bound to make a very negative impression and seriously compromise the applicant's credibility in the eyes of a total-stranger-bureaucrat at IRCC.
.i also never included my foreign address in my PR card renewal , i honestly forgot but it was not an issue