H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim
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Key concerns:
- Extraordinary authority to cancel, vary, or suspend certain categories of documents including permanent resident visas and permanent resident cards without recourse to the principles of procedural fairness and due process that have been long established in Canada;
- Untrammeled discretion to cancel, vary, or suspend certain categories of applications (permanent, temporary, travel-related) without review;
- “Public interest” standard is vague and undefined;
- Retroactive termination of valid applications;
- Powers to cancel, suspend, or vary visas, permits, and PR cards for broad classes of people—without notice or opportunity to respond.
Federal Government to announce Immigration Levels Plan.
Although one country has had a major impact there are many countries overrepresented. Who can enter Canada has a major impact on who can apply. Canada also has some very generous refugee programs that just adds to backlog.
The asylum system like many systems are built on trust Canada is also as a signatory to The Hague convention. There was apparently an attempt to do something last year but was prevented at higher levels. Pure delusion, zero common sense and no longterm modeling is how immigration got so screwed up in Canada. Also many making big money from high immigration levels became big supporters of their local government representatives.
I never thought this bill would also target permanent residents…
I honestly don’t think that’s the case, because the Charter explicitly protects the rights of permanent residents in Canada, and it would be illogical to strip them of their status for so-called public interest reasons, unless there are extremely serious grounds related to criminality or fraud.
But taking away someone’s permanent residency just because Canada wants to reduce the number of permanent residents would be purely unconstitutional.
Saying that is almost like saying Canada wants to revoke citizenship from naturalized citizens simply because there are too many of them… (well, it’s not exactly the same thing, but almost).
I feel like we’re all trying to interpret this bill when it’s not even clear yet… and we’re starting to imagine consequences that sound more like something out of a totalitarian regime at this point.
Wouldn’t expect PRs who have no criminal record and who have followed their residency requirements to be a target. This is really to target things like criminals or perhaps even to cancel PRs for people who have been outside Canada longterm, never settled in Canada, etc.
Since 10 years and above, reflects the significant backlog and resource limitations across several PR streams. IRCC appears to be extending these timelines for H&C partly to manage intake volumes and reduce the number of federal court (mandamus) challenges related to delay. I believe there wont be an option to sue the government if your application move past those years.
@Jonathan1988 <- new account of our troll.
100%! Given that PRs from economic streams have been bringing in far far higher revenue to Canada, it would be anything but logical to cancel PR status without criminality or failure to meet RO. I remember the data from 2022 where PRs on an avg earned $30k/yr more than citizens (lots of factors there: age, average instead of median, etc - but the logic still stands). Removing them is like removing a chunk of revenue.
With that being said, if that happens, well that's our bad luck. It would suck, this is home here and we love it. Unlikely it will happen though.
Was actually referring to any type of PR. Also should have included PRs or even citizens who have obtained PR as a result of fraud. This was always the case but would be easier under c-12.
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