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Hello everyone,

I’ve just submitted my citizenship applications for myself and my kids, despite the potential risks. I firmly believe that I must face any challenges head on, as waiting a few more years would only prolong the inevitable. Delaying now could mean facing the same proceedings and delays later on.

Interestingly, my brother recently received a letter at my old address in my home country. The letter stated that, based on intelligence reports, my citizenship there has been "doubtfully revoked," and I was instructed to appear at an office in the capital city. When I checked their online portal using my passport and citizenship numbers, it showed my status as “blocked.”

To be honest, I would never consider returning to that country under any circumstances. I’ve also consulted a lawyer here in Canada, who assured me that I have strong grounds, substantial evidence, and solid reasons to proceed. Ultimately, the decision was mine to make, and I’ve chosen to be proactive and take this step.

I feel confident and happy that I’ve finally applied. Whatever happens next, I’m prepared to face it. Fingers crossed...let’s see what the future holds. Wish me Luck and send good vibes.


I am thrilled and deeply proud to share that I have officially become a Canadian citizen...

This past week, I stood before my fellow Canadians, took the Oath of Citizenship, and felt a profound sense of belonging and joy fill my heart. Everything went smoothly, but the emotions I experienced were unforgettable, pride, gratitude, and a renewed sense of hope.

Thank you to everyone who supported me on this journey. Today, as a citizen, I am more committed than ever to embracing our country's values of kindness, inclusion, and resilience. From the bottom of my heart, thank you, Canada. I am honoured and so happy to be home.
 
I am thrilled and deeply proud to share that I have officially become a Canadian citizen...

This past week, I stood before my fellow Canadians, took the Oath of Citizenship, and felt a profound sense of belonging and joy fill my heart. Everything went smoothly, but the emotions I experienced were unforgettable, pride, gratitude, and a renewed sense of hope.

Thank you to everyone who supported me on this journey. Today, as a citizen, I am more committed than ever to embracing our country's values of kindness, inclusion, and resilience. From the bottom of my heart, thank you, Canada. I am honoured and so happy to be home.
Congratulations from the bottom of my heart. Can I ask you a question? How long did you stay in your home country?
 
Not necessarily a new case but the outcome of a JR of a cessation case for those who read French.

https://www.canlii.org/fr/ca/cfpi/d...528&searchUrlHash=AAAAAQAJQ2Vzc2F0aW9uAAAAAAE

I cannot read French.

Even though the decision in Rosas Castro v. Canada, 2025 FC 1366, https://canlii.ca/t/kds88 was just last week, so a new decision, it does not offer new light on cessation cases.

It does, however, illustrate how long the process can take: cessation proceedings started in 2017, the cessation decision itself did not happen until 2023, and the final adjudication of that decision was just last week . . . so now the procedures for actual deportation may begin for this man who has been a permanent resident of Canada for a quarter century (since 2000), a man who has traveled to his home country twice in the last decade.

And it appears to illustrate that the government is aggressively pursuing even those cases largely based on travel back when there were no grounds for terminating PR status for such travel -- most of his trips to the home country, Peru, were before the change in law in 2012.

Meanwhile I have personally grown lax watching for new cessation cases. If anyone sees that there has been any new developments in those cases challenging the termination of PR status for cessation, on Charter grounds, please alert the forum including notice in this thread.
 
I cannot read French.

Even though the decision in Rosas Castro v. Canada, 2025 FC 1366, https://canlii.ca/t/kds88 was just last week, so a new decision, it does not offer new light on cessation cases.

It does, however, illustrate how long the process can take: cessation proceedings started in 2017, the cessation decision itself did not happen until 2023, and the final adjudication of that decision was just last week . . . so now the procedures for actual deportation may begin for this man who has been a permanent resident of Canada for a quarter century (since 2000), a man who has traveled to his home country twice in the last decade.

And it appears to illustrate that the government is aggressively pursuing even those cases largely based on travel back when there were no grounds for terminating PR status for such travel -- most of his trips to the home country, Peru, were before the change in law in 2012.

Meanwhile I have personally grown lax watching for new cessation cases. If anyone sees that there has been any new developments in those cases challenging the termination of PR status for cessation, on Charter grounds, please alert the forum including notice in this thread.

Agree it is slow processing but a large part was due to applicant who asked for extensions to secure counsel, for mental health reasons but with no strong evidence of ongoing treatment/severe disability, etc. Also obtained new Peruvian passport after cessation had been started. Reason for travel back to Peru for 2 weeks- 4 month visits were to treat his diabetes. Initial visit back to Peru using Peruvian passport was right after receiving protected person status. Waiting 20 years to start a cessation case is pretty extreme given there is no shortage of immigration fraud that goes unpunished and seems to get overlooked. Also shows how poorly system is run since I can’t imagine travel for Peruvian citizens was visa exempt since the 90s.

The JR system extremely overwhelmed and will continue to face longer backlogs.
 
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I cannot read French.

I'm trying to learn (rather desperately), but for now I have to rely on machine translation.
it does not offer new light on cessation cases.

It does, however, illustrate how long the process can take

Agreed on both counts.
a man who has traveled to his home country twice in the last decade.

The machine translation gives me this, so while twice in the last decade may be accurate, overall it's been quite a bit more than that. I'd add that he likely stopped traveling because of the proceedings which commenced in 2017.
[[7] A few months after obtaining his permanent residence, Mr. Castro used his Peruvian passport to travel to Peru, a passport he obtained by presenting himself at the Peruvian consulate in Canada. Mr. Castro travelled to Peru seven times on this passport, and renewed it three times, in 2003, 2006 and 2009.

[[8] In September 2013, Mr. Castro obtained a new Peruvian passport expiring in 2018, and used it to travel twice to Peru.
so now the procedures for actual deportation may begin for this man who has been a permanent resident of Canada for a quarter century (since 2000)

Hmm, but this is at the Federal Court (i.e. a court of first instance). If he attempts to appeal to the Federal Court of Appeals, would that delay the procedures, or might he be deported while that appeal is ongoing?
And it appears to illustrate that the government is aggressively pursuing even those cases largely based on travel back when there were no grounds for terminating PR status for such travel -- most of his trips to the home country, Peru, were before the change in law in 2012.

This has always troubled me. Basically it looks very much like an ex post facto application of the law, criminalizing something that wasn't a crime when it happened.

(I've previously wrote that I also disagree with the premise here, namely that having permanent residence in Canada may be enough to protect a former political asylumee who makes a visit to their home country.

It certainly has happened before. While not obligated to, and while it certainly doesn't happen every time, there have been instances where Canada has indeed provided consular assistance to a permanent resident of Canada, as per https://www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Committee/421/FAAE/Reports/RP10186936/faaerp21/faaerp21-e.pdf (page 29) and https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/FAAE/meeting-104/evidence


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Ms. Carol McCalla:
We didn't look particularly at that case. We did see that they have discretion on whether or not they will provide consular assistance to non-Canadians. I believe we did come across one or two cases in our sample in which they did that.
"

In other words, PR holders can obtain the protection of Canada, and this can be effective.)
Meanwhile I have personally grown lax watching for new cessation cases. If anyone sees that there has been any new developments in those cases challenging the termination of PR status for cessation, on Charter grounds, please alert the forum including notice in this thread.

I'm also quite lax here, but definitely will try to send stuff your way if I see anything relevant (i.e. something new has happened with respect to the law).

I strongly suspect that we'll need to see more cases at least hitting the FCA before we start seeing any changes, though..
The JR system extremely overwhelmed and will continue to face longer backlogs.

Can't disagree with this.
Agree it is slow processing but a large part was due to applicant who asked for extensions to secure counsel,

Eh, from the timeline given in the case itself, it seems like the delay for counsel was actually not that much compared to the overall timeline,
[[12] On April 10, 2022, at a management conference before the RPD, the court granted Mr. Castro time to find counsel and ensured that Mr. Castro had a copy of the Minister's application. Mr. Castro then again asked for more time to find counsel, which the RPD granted him.

[[13] On March 22, 2023, Mr. Castro disclosed the name of his counsel to the RPD.
Agree it is slow processing but a large part was due to applicant who asked for extensions ... for mental health reasons but with no strong evidence of ongoing treatment/severe disability

I don't think this was the case. Once the hearing date of Sept 12, 2023 was set, the applicant asked for a delay for these reasons, but it was repeatedly denied and - if the translation is accurate - the hearing was in fact held on that day. So this didn't seem to delay anything.

Agree it is slow processing but a large part was due to applicant... etc.

It's not clear from that web page what happened between May 8, 2017 and April 10, 2022. I'd guess a big reason behind the 2020-2022 delay could be from COVID, but it seems nothing really happened from 2017 to 2019.

It seems to be that the largest part of the delay isn't from the applicant. COVID was bigger, and the gov't itself seemed to have an equally long delay as COVID in the pre-COVID times.

Also obtained new Peruvian passport after cessation had been started. Reason for travel back to Peru for 2 weeks- 4 month visits were to treat his diabetes. Initial visit back to Peru using Peruvian passport was right after receiving protected person status.

I'm of two minds about this. On the one hand, under current rules, this is a pretty clear violation. There's no need to visit Peru for 4 months to treat diabetes, and getting a passport right away after getting protected person status seems.. extreme.

On the other hand, this seems to have mostly happened before the law changed in 2012, so it wasn't illegal when the applicant did it. And, if the applicant thought he was under Canadian protection while in Peru, then staying 4 months to get comfortably treated (when it's a free choice without consequences) in a language one is familiar with, it makes a bit more sense in that light. It's not a necessity, it's a luxury.
Also shows how poorly system is run since I can’t imagine travel for Peruvian citizens was visa exempt since the 90s.

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Peruvian_citizens they still need a visa today. Don't understand how this relates to a poorly run system, though.
Waiting 20 years to start a cessation case is pretty extreme given there is no shortage of immigration fraud that goes unpunished and seems to get overlooked.

Well, how do we know that it is being overlooked and will forever go unpunished? Perhaps we'll see the punishments come in another 20 years or so... not quite the same but I know of a case that took even longer, 32 years! https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...p-revoked-after-32-years-amid-error-1.7196530
 
I'm trying to learn (rather desperately), but for now I have to rely on machine translation.


Agreed on both counts.


The machine translation gives me this, so while twice in the last decade may be accurate, overall it's been quite a bit more than that. I'd add that he likely stopped traveling because of the proceedings which commenced in 2017.
[[7] A few months after obtaining his permanent residence, Mr. Castro used his Peruvian passport to travel to Peru, a passport he obtained by presenting himself at the Peruvian consulate in Canada. Mr. Castro travelled to Peru seven times on this passport, and renewed it three times, in 2003, 2006 and 2009.

[[8] In September 2013, Mr. Castro obtained a new Peruvian passport expiring in 2018, and used it to travel twice to Peru.


Hmm, but this is at the Federal Court (i.e. a court of first instance). If he attempts to appeal to the Federal Court of Appeals, would that delay the procedures, or might he be deported while that appeal is ongoing?


This has always troubled me. Basically it looks very much like an ex post facto application of the law, criminalizing something that wasn't a crime when it happened.

(I've previously wrote that I also disagree with the premise here, namely that having permanent residence in Canada may be enough to protect a former political asylumee who makes a visit to their home country.

It certainly has happened before. While not obligated to, and while it certainly doesn't happen every time, there have been instances where Canada has indeed provided consular assistance to a permanent resident of Canada, as per https://www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Committee/421/FAAE/Reports/RP10186936/faaerp21/faaerp21-e.pdf (page 29) and https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/FAAE/meeting-104/evidence


"
Ms. Carol McCalla:
We didn't look particularly at that case. We did see that they have discretion on whether or not they will provide consular assistance to non-Canadians. I believe we did come across one or two cases in our sample in which they did that.
"

In other words, PR holders can obtain the protection of Canada, and this can be effective.)


I'm also quite lax here, but definitely will try to send stuff your way if I see anything relevant (i.e. something new has happened with respect to the law).

I strongly suspect that we'll need to see more cases at least hitting the FCA before we start seeing any changes, though..


Can't disagree with this.


Eh, from the timeline given in the case itself, it seems like the delay for counsel was actually not that much compared to the overall timeline,
[[12] On April 10, 2022, at a management conference before the RPD, the court granted Mr. Castro time to find counsel and ensured that Mr. Castro had a copy of the Minister's application. Mr. Castro then again asked for more time to find counsel, which the RPD granted him.

[[13] On March 22, 2023, Mr. Castro disclosed the name of his counsel to the RPD.


I don't think this was the case. Once the hearing date of Sept 12, 2023 was set, the applicant asked for a delay for these reasons, but it was repeatedly denied and - if the translation is accurate - the hearing was in fact held on that day. So this didn't seem to delay anything.



It's not clear from that web page what happened between May 8, 2017 and April 10, 2022. I'd guess a big reason behind the 2020-2022 delay could be from COVID, but it seems nothing really happened from 2017 to 2019.

It seems to be that the largest part of the delay isn't from the applicant. COVID was bigger, and the gov't itself seemed to have an equally long delay as COVID in the pre-COVID times.

Yea Covid played a large part in delays.

I'm of two minds about this. On the one hand, under current rules, this is a pretty clear violation. There's no need to visit Peru for 4 months to treat diabetes, and getting a passport right away after getting protected person status seems.. extreme.

On the other hand, this seems to have mostly happened before the law changed in 2012, so it wasn't illegal when the applicant did it. And, if the applicant thought he was under Canadian protection while in Peru, then staying 4 months to get comfortably treated (when it's a free choice without consequences) in a language one is familiar with, it makes a bit more sense in that light. It's not a necessity, it's a luxury.

If you are claiming persecution renewing your home country passport and returning home country months after receiving asylum does in my mind raise concerns about asylum claim credibility.

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Peruvian_citizens they still need a visa today. Don't understand how this relates to a poorly run system, though.

If a PR they should have never been granted a TRV. IRCC clearly had not figured out that he had status in Canada while he applied for TRVs with his Peruvian passport and perhaps an ETA (which believe is what is now required).


Well, how do we know that it is being overlooked and will forever go unpunished? Perhaps we'll see the punishments come in another 20 years or so... not quite the same but I know of a case that took even longer, 32 years! https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...p-revoked-after-32-years-amid-error-1.7196530

In general the longer someone remains in Canada, especially if they now have a family in Canada who can retain their status, the harder it will be to remove them. If they have an easy pathway to return at a certain point the government needs to question whether resources being allocated to the case can be justified.
 
Hello everyone,

I'm seeking advice on a very specific and sensitive travel situation.

I'm asking about someone who came to Canada as a refugee 7 years ago. During these 7 years, they have never travelled back to their home country or used their home country's passport.

They recently became a Canadian citizen about 6 months ago (the application was routine and processed quickly).

Now, they have a very serious family emergency. Their father in the home country has Stage 4 cancer and they want to see him, possibly for the last time. This would be their first trip back in 7 years.

They plan to travel for a month, using their home country's passport to enter that country, and their Canadian passport for all other parts of the journey (leaving/re-entering Canada).

The main worries are:
  1. Even as a citizen, could this trip cause problems for them later on by contradicting their original refugee claim?
  2. What might happen at the Canadian border when they return? Could CBSA officers question them about their travel history or search their luggage for a passport from their home country if they notice stamps from that country?
This is causing a lot of stress during an already difficult family time. Any advice or similar experiences would be greatly appreciated.
 
I'm asking about someone who came to Canada as a refugee 7 years ago. During these 7 years, they have never travelled back to their home country or used their home country's passport.

They recently became a Canadian citizen about 6 months ago (the application was routine and processed quickly).
My general understanding is that once citizenship is obtained, cessation is no longer an issue. The person ceased to be a refugee and PR once they became a Canadian citizen, there's no longer any refugee or PR status to fear losing. There's an older post that clearly states this here, https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-i...ter-getting-citizenship.846040/#post-10829413

I think it's important here is that this person did follow the rules and didn't violate the ones mentioned in this long thread prior to becoming a citizen. (While the barrier to losing citizenship is much, much higher, if pre-citizenship violations happened and weren't disclosed and weren't caught, I'd be ... more concerned.)
Now, they have a very serious family emergency. Their father in the home country has Stage 4 cancer and they want to see him, possibly for the last time. This would be their first trip back in 7 years.

This even sounds like a case where there are good H&C reasons to support the trip, even if the person were only a PR and not a citizen.
They plan to travel for a month, using their home country's passport to enter that country, and their Canadian passport for all other parts of the journey (leaving/re-entering Canada).

Out of curiosity, why the use of the home country's passport? If that person used the Canadian passport, then 100% there's no chance because they'd be officially asking for the protection of the gov't of Canada in the home country. Use of the home country passport to visit the home country is a major negative factor. (Though I already said it doesn't matter because afaik cessation doesn't apply to those who are already Canadian citizens.)

One thing here, applying for the home country's passport (even at that country's Canadian embassy or consulate while inside of Canada) while a refugee/protected person is generally a no-no. But passports are good for ten years and you said this person came seven years ago. So I'm guessing either that this is the old passport from before that would be used ... in which case no concerns. Or else it's one applied for only post-citizenship .. in which case no concerns.
The main worries are:
  1. Even as a citizen, could this trip cause problems for them later on by contradicting their original refugee claim?
  2. What might happen at the Canadian border when they return? Could CBSA officers question them about their travel history or search their luggage for a passport from their home country if they notice stamps from that country?

1. No, since it happened post-citizenship. The difference is that Canadian citizens are presumed to be asking for, and are entitled to, the protection of the Canadian gov't wherever they go.

2. Yes, but this can happen regardless. I think CBSA does all of this as part of some random checks. So just because CBSA does this, doesn't meant it's related to 1. Also worth nothing that there's nothing in Canadian law making it illegal to hold multiple passports from multiple countries, as long as these are legitimate.
This is causing a lot of stress during an already difficult family time. Any advice or similar experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Here are a couple of links to similar posts on this forum. However, refugee status is a complex thing. Always consult with a lawyer before doing anything. The mistake we see from most folks who get in trouble with cessation is that they weren't aware of the legal consequences and took important actions without seeking the appropriate legal advice first. Don't just trust random strangers on an internet forum.

 
Hello everyone,

I'm seeking advice on a very specific and sensitive travel situation.

I'm asking about someone who came to Canada as a refugee 7 years ago. During these 7 years, they have never travelled back to their home country or used their home country's passport.

They recently became a Canadian citizen about 6 months ago (the application was routine and processed quickly).

Now, they have a very serious family emergency. Their father in the home country has Stage 4 cancer and they want to see him, possibly for the last time. This would be their first trip back in 7 years.

They plan to travel for a month, using their home country's passport to enter that country, and their Canadian passport for all other parts of the journey (leaving/re-entering Canada).

The main worries are:
  1. Even as a citizen, could this trip cause problems for them later on by contradicting their original refugee claim?
  2. What might happen at the Canadian border when they return? Could CBSA officers question them about their travel history or search their luggage for a passport from their home country if they notice stamps from that country?
This is causing a lot of stress during an already difficult family time. Any advice or similar experiences would be greatly appreciated.
There are no issues traveling after citizenship. They should feel free to travel.
 
I'm asking about someone who came to Canada as a refugee 7 years ago. During these 7 years, they have never travelled back to their home country or used their home country's passport.

They recently became a Canadian citizen about 6 months ago (the application was routine and processed quickly).

Once a former PR-refugee has obtained Canadian citizenship, cessation of status is not relevant, no threat, not a problem. Your situation is off-topic in this thread (which is about PRs and cessation).

In addition to no longer being a PR (becoming a Canadian citizen terminates PR status by operation of law), by becoming a Canadian citizen the former PR-refugee has, in effect, conclusively established grounds for the cessation of their protected person status pursuant to section 108(1)(c) IRPA, in that they have "acquired a new nationality," as in they have become a citizen of another country, Canada, and they enjoy the protection of this country (again, Canada). But cessation of protected status has no effect on a person's Canadian citizenship status.

@abff08f4813c referenced other relevant discussions, and I will quote and respond more directly to your questions in the Ex-Refugee Visiting Home Country After Getting Citizenship thread, here: https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-i...untry-after-getting-citizenship.846040/page-2

I generally agree with the observation by @scylla:
"There are no issues traveling after citizenship. They should feel free to travel."​
In the context of this thread, which again is about cessation leading to loss of status in Canada, this is correct: once a citizen, there are no cessation related issues . . . and as far as Canada is concerned, the former PR-refugee is free to travel, and free to renew or obtain their home country passport, and use it for travel (to the home country or elsewhere) without that having any impact on their Canadian status.

But where a person can freely travel is also limited by the law of the countries where they are traveling. And of course the risks an individual might face traveling will depend on both general risks of travel in the destination country AND on any personal risk factors. If the circumstances and dangers the individual fled still exist, no special expertise necessary to recognize there can still be a significant risk traveling to the home country. So I would not say that once they become a citizen they should feel free to travel to their home country, not without taking into consideration how things could go in the home country.

The latter leads to observations by @abff08f4813c in regards to Canadian citizens and Canadian government protection while they are abroad. Many countries will restrict the Canadian government's efforts to intercede on behalf of a Canadian citizen if the individual is also a citizen of that country . . . regardless which passport the traveler used to enter that country. (This includes, for example, the United States.) International law recognizes the primary authority of a country in regards to its own citizens who are in the country. So, even though Canadian authorities will try to do what they can to protect a Canadian citizen in another country (and they often try to help PRs abroad), those with citizenship in multiple countries should anticipate that this can be very limited while they are in another country in which they are a citizen.

That in turn leads back to some previous discussion here about the Li v. Canada, 2025 FC 934, https://canlii.ca/t/kc9p2 decision (late May 2025), another cessation case in which the RPD's cessation decision was upheld, a case I have not previously commented on here.

New case: https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fct/doc/2025/2025fc934/2025fc934.html

I've been disturbed by these cases generally, as I disagree with the premise behind the post-2012 rule: namely I think that that folks who have a fear of persecution in their home country may still feel compelled to return to it at times, and that they may take solace in the protection of Canada that comes with having PR status.

Even though where and why "solace" may be found is not likely to have legal significance, I think I understand the gist of the sentiment here and I very much agree. After all, just having a PR card that will facilitate fleeing the country to return to Canada, if and when the risks in the home country escalate, is a real factor reducing the risks a PR-refugee faces in traveling to the home country, and to my view more consideration should be given to balancing compelling reasons for the travel and the PR-refugee's management of risks, including relying on being able to just leave and return to Canada, before concluding the PR traveled to the home country with the intent to reavail home country protection (a necessary element in cessation based on reavailment grounds).

But it is important to caution that even a Canadian citizen, let alone a PR, may have limited protection from the Canadian government when they are in their home country, given that under international law a country can repel Canadian government efforts on behalf of its own citizens in the country.

In any event, I will offer further observations here: https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-i...untry-after-getting-citizenship.846040/page-2


Beyond That . . . The previous conversation above brings up some of the major underlying threads in regards to how cessation applies to PRs, that is, how it is that one class of persons (refugees / protected persons) who have obtained the status of Canadian (permanent residents; no longer Foreign Nationals under Canadian immigration law), how it is they do not have the same legal status (so not the same rights or privileges) as other "permanent residents."

But the conversation also gets into some other largely off-topic tangents . . . allowing that to the extent a tangent is addressing how-things-work more broadly it can be very relevant . . . and recognizing, in particular, there are issues that overlap. For example:
In general the longer someone remains in Canada, especially if they now have a family in Canada who can retain their status, the harder it will be to remove them.

The process of actual removal, or deportation, is not involved until AFTER cessation is final. At that stage the individual is a Foreign National, so no longer a PR. This is a subject separate from cessation proceedings . . . what happens and what can happen AFTER a PR has lost status (whether due to an adjudication of inadmissibility, or operation of law due to an adjudication of cessation) is itself a big topic with lots of tangents.

Of course the post-cessation or deportation process comes up here occasionally. In addition to former PRs who lost status pursuant to cessation, PR-refugees potentially subject to cessation are, of course, interested in that process, interested in what can and what will happen AFTER cessation has been fully and finally adjudicated. But so are PRs, including all other classes of PRs, facing loss of PR status due to inadmissibility for failing to comply with the PR Residency Obligation, as well as those potentially inadmissible for serious criminality or security reasons, as well as inadmissibility for misrepresentation. There is, for example, the sprawling subject of pre-removal risk assessment, and who qualifies for PRRA is in itself a big subject with lots of tangents (last I looked, FNs who are inadmissible pursuant to cessation of their refugee status are NOT eligible for PRRA for a year), let alone getting into the nuts-and-bolts involved -- such as who might be protected from removal based on the best interests of a minor child, which is what I suspect @canuck78 is referencing, at least in part, in regards to the role family in Canada might have.

Spoiler alert: in addition to what FNs subject to Removal or Deportation can do to avoid or delay actual deportation, even navigating the PRRA process alone, can be complicated and tricky. This is a subject beyond my purview.

There are many thousands of individuals in Canada who are subject to a Removal or Deportation order but who, for now anyway, Canada cannot physically cause to be deported. A hugely important subject for those affected. Again, this is a subject beyond my purview and, generally, beyond the scope of this topic . . . a tangent for discussion elsewhere, other than to recognize the nature of that in broad, general terms, and to acknowledge that is a separate process which in itself can take a long time, or a very long time.

And Then, before getting into some of those underlying threads raised by the recent discussion . . . there is another recent cessation case I had overlooked (being lax): Perez Bonilla v. Canada, 2025 FC 1290, https://canlii.ca/t/kdc3r which is interesting because it is one of the few Federal Court decisions setting aside a cessation determination. Note that this individual was represented by one of the higher profile lawyers involved in these issues, Lorne Waldman. This case, and again some of the other underlying threads, warrant some further observations, and not just that having a damn good lawyer could make the difference . . . if I have time.

To be continued . . .