Home Childcare Provider Pilot 2019

[hccp_2019]

I think it's only fair to give PR to apps waiting for almost 2 yrs. Other streams, e.g express entry, can be PR even without Canadian experience. I think caregivers should have equal opportunity. For example, express entry apps can apply due to "in demand" selected profession however, upon becoming a landed PR, they can choose any work. Most do jobs unrelated to the streams they initially applied, no one cares what you do thereafter.

Anyway, on a positive note, I do hope CPC Edmonton is hiring and/or training additional folks to look into our apps this month. Then 1st week of June will send a flurry of emails to the 1500 lucky winners! Yey

 

[Chachalava]

What year did you apply? Are u from outside or inside?

Sept 2019, outside canada

 

[ProudNanny]

I think it's only fair to give PR to apps waiting for almost 2 yrs. Other streams, e.g express entry, can be PR even without Canadian experience. I think caregivers should have equal opportunity. For example, express entry apps can apply due to "in demand" selected profession however, upon becoming a landed PR, they can choose any work. Most do jobs unrelated to the streams they initially applied, no one cares what you do thereafter.

Anyway, on a positive note, I do hope CPC Edmonton is hiring and/or training additional folks to look into our apps this month. Then 1st week of June will send a flurry of emails to the 1500 lucky winners! Yey

I understand your sentiment. But let’s face it, it won’t happen WITHOUT MONEY. Those people who applied thru Express Entry and other streams, HAVE MONEY, they spend thousands of dollar. I went here in Canada with only 2000$. Even refugee visa, they have to prove that they have something to offer like a professional doctor or something higher. Believe me, I met many students who spent LOTS of money for 4 years, and they cannot even get a PR. they cannot even give you a PR once you married a Canadian citizen, you need minimum of one year relationship to prove that it is really love and not after PR only. I’ve been here since 2018, and I know how PR works. If you want to get PR even without Canada experience, it’s possible WITH MONEY. Reality bites. One more thing, I am a professional nurse, but they want us to pass lots of requirements (and spend money again) to practice our profession.
so there you go, Canada is after money. Once you get here, you will understand me, why a professional nurse chose to scrub other people’s toilet bowl just to earn money and still without PR.

 

[yadav]

I understand your sentiment. But let’s face it, it won’t happen WITHOUT MONEY. Those people who applied thru Express Entry and other streams, HAVE MONEY, they spend thousands of dollar. I went here in Canada with only 2000$. Even refugee visa, they have to prove that they have something to offer like a professional doctor or something higher. Believe me, I met many students who spent LOTS of money for 4 years, and they cannot even get a PR. they cannot even give you a PR once you married a Canadian citizen, you need minimum of one year relationship to prove that it is really love and not after PR only. I’ve been here since 2018, and I know how PR works. If you want to get PR even without Canada experience, it’s possible WITH MONEY. Reality bites. One more thing, I am a professional nurse, but they want us to pass lots of requirements (and spend money again) to practice our profession.
so there you go, Canada is after money. Once you get here, you will understand me, why a professional nurse chose to scrub other people’s toilet bowl just to earn money and still without PR.

Absolutely right.

 

[lukay]

Hi just want share my knowledge as per conversation with IRCC representatives over the phone about couple of days ago. It seems like lot's of people have miscommunication about new special message from IRCC that all 2020 applicants will get the PR. Well answer to that question is "No". "Public Policy has clearly stated that caregivers who applied under the HCCP Class or the HSW Class in 2020, but whose application was not entered into processing due to delays related to the COVID-19 pandemic are going to be considered who meet the eligibility criteria and conditions listed below.

What this statement means? Well let's take an example around sometime in Nov 2020 (for e.g Nov 13, 2020) when IRCC announced that Home Childcare Provider Pilot has closed for new applications for 2020. Well at that point suppose they've counted the actual count of 2750 and after Nov 13, 2020 stopped receiving the caregiver applications and didn't inform anyone whose application was received after the 2750th count and year 2021 started and those applicants has still not been informed and found that 2021 quota has also reached and missed the opportunity to apply in 2021 as well. It only of those candidates IRCC has made this special announcement that those applications will be counted even they've reached the quota for 2020.

It doesn't mean what all three stream of 2020 will directly get the PR. Well those applicants who have applied under PR stream if they meet the eligibility criteria they'll get the PR, rest will get the work permit and will have to complete their 2 years experience to meet the eligibility criteria.

I hope it makes sense. Chao!

I don't agree when you said that the new public policy (3 May 2021) is for those who still applied after the 2020 cutoff (say Dec 2020). For one, they were informed given the fact that IRCC itself has announced in its website that they have reached the cap for 2020 in November 2020 and encouraged people to submit instead on January 2021. Second point, the public policy did not mention about excess quota for 2020 being the subject of the policy. Third, when IRCC said that the public policy will cover those applications both submitted and not processed in 2020, they also meant to include those who made it to the cap and received temporary letters saying their applications are still on the line for review (not yet processing stage).

 

[lukay]

I think it's only fair to give PR to apps waiting for almost 2 yrs. Other streams, e.g express entry, can be PR even without Canadian experience. I think caregivers should have equal opportunity. For example, express entry apps can apply due to "in demand" selected profession however, upon becoming a landed PR, they can choose any work. Most do jobs unrelated to the streams they initially applied, no one cares what you do thereafter.

Anyway, on a positive note, I do hope CPC Edmonton is hiring and/or training additional folks to look into our apps this month. Then 1st week of June will send a flurry of emails to the 1500 lucky winners! Yey

I agree that just like in Express Entry, the 2020 HCCP and HSW applicants may be granted PR (even without Canadian work experience). The job offers of 2020 caregiver applicants can be the basis to ensure they perform caregiver work even after landing in Canada. Unlike those PR applicants in express entry who were evaluated based on their experiences abroad (say nurse) but would do other jobs once they get to Canada as a PR (grocery store personnel).

 

[lukay]

Isn't it, according to the pilot program the employment offer letter should be valid at the time of submission of application. Its because of their inability to process the application for two years they are asking for a new/updated offer letter. Instead they should be giving the Employment specific Open work permit. because they are the reason for the delay. They should facilitate by not asking for updated offer letter.

In the offer letter too it does not say the offer letter expires nor even in the form IMM5983. It only states duration in months and anticipated date. so the offer letter should not be considered expired. If they are asking the updated offer letter then they are really putting applicants under stress after waiting for painful near two years. That's harsh

I agree IRCC should not ask for updated job offer because it says in the job offer form "anticipated start date" which means it may still be adjusted at a later date for the job offer to remain valid. That should solve the problem.

 

[lukay]

Applicant. from 2019 are stuck with same situation, there is no progress. Wait till 30 June, minister had promised to give first stage decision till June.

I think only those who have submitted their biometrics will be included in the 1st stage decisiom since it is a prerequisite prior to processing.

 

[ProudNanny]

I agree that just like in Express Entry, the 2020 HCCP and HSW applicants may be granted PR (even without Canadian work experience). The job offers of 2020 caregiver applicants can be the basis to ensure they perform caregiver work even after landing in Canada. Unlike those PR applicants in express entry who were evaluated based on their experiences abroad (say nurse) but would do other jobs once they get to Canada as a PR (grocery store personnel).

How I wish Canada officials think like you do. But unfortunately they are after money. Once you get here and meet those Express Entry people who spent thousands of dollar just to get their PR, you will understand my point that Canada doesn’t give away PR application without taking so much money from you. I’m paying taxes (in food and rental fee) here in Canada since 2018 and they cannot even consider that for PR. I’m a nurse by profession, but I cannot apply thru Express Entry, because I don’t have much money, my English proficiency exam is low (academic IELTS is difficult), and I don’t have masteral degree to increase my points. So I settle in cleaning other toilet bowl and become a nanny here.

 

[canada2000]

I think only those who have submitted their biometrics will be included in the 1st stage decisiom since it is a prerequisite prior to processing.

what about medicals?

 

[hccp_2019]

I understand your sentiment. But let’s face it, it won’t happen WITHOUT MONEY. Those people who applied thru Express Entry and other streams, HAVE MONEY, they spend thousands of dollar. I went here in Canada with only 2000$. Even refugee visa, they have to prove that they have something to offer like a professional doctor or something higher. Believe me, I met many students who spent LOTS of money for 4 years, and they cannot even get a PR. they cannot even give you a PR once you married a Canadian citizen, you need minimum of one year relationship to prove that it is really love and not after PR only. I’ve been here since 2018, and I know how PR works. If you want to get PR even without Canada experience, it’s possible WITH MONEY. Reality bites. One more thing, I am a professional nurse, but they want us to pass lots of requirements (and spend money again) to practice our profession.
so there you go, Canada is after money. Once you get here, you will understand me, why a professional nurse chose to scrub other people’s toilet bowl just to earn money and still without PR.

Well, we can go on for ages on horror stories, I know a lot too. But there are also wonderful stories of becoming a PR. There are always 2 sides to stories. It isn't all about money, it's about being qualified per current existing IRCC regulations. If you think about it, everything about the world is about money. But hey, we still have friends, families, and professions that make the world a better place, and money is written all over it.

I have been here longer than you, got PR without Canadian experience, got citizenship after 3 yrs. Now I'm trying to hire a caregiver for my young daughter. Certainly not everyone is entitled to be PR, not everyone is qualified to be PR, it's all on case to case basis. I wouldn't want to paint the same brush for a highly qualified applicant vs others who is in a different situation.

 

[ProudNanny]

Well, we can go on for ages on horror stories, I know a lot too. But there are also wonderful stories of becoming a PR. There are always 2 sides to stories. It isn't all about money, it's about being qualified per current existing IRCC regulations. If you think about it, everything about the world is about money. But hey, we still have friends, families, and professions that make the world a better place, and money is written all over it.

I have been here longer than you, got PR without Canadian experience, got citizenship after 3 yrs. Now I'm trying to hire a caregiver for my young daughter. Certainly not everyone is entitled to be PR, not everyone is qualified to be PR, it's all on case to case basis. I wouldn't want to paint the same brush for a highly qualified applicant vs others who is in a different situation.

Oh, good for you. But I guess you spent lots of money and very intelligent with masteral. If I am like you (i am a nurse), might as well try Express Entry. But I am not like you who got their PR thru a different way. Caregivers are not considered professional here, unlike you who got here and became professional immediately. So caregivers have different story from you, you are just lucky that maybe you have money or a higher profession. They usually give PR to those professional who already proven themselves. So i never heard anyone (except REFUGEE, ASYLUM SEEKER) who got here with PR automatically.

 

[Rongel]

I got an Email from IRCC May 12 2021 HSWP January 2020 application requesting for updated IMM5983 and IMM5669. For them to continue the processing. Inside Canada

 

[ProudNanny]

I got an Email from IRCC May 12 2021 HSWP January 2020 application requesting for updated IMM5983 and IMM5669. For them to continue the processing. Inside Canada

Wow! Glad to hear that they are working on your application now. I noticed that most people with updates are inside Canada.

 

[Rongel]

Wow! Glad to hear that they are working on your application now. I noticed that most people with updates are inside Canada.

Thank you hopefully everybody will get an updates soon....