Sponsor leaving Canada temporarily

[bian07]

I also searched a lot but could not find anything concrete most of them are your comments saying do not leave for more than 3 weeks haahahaha

it's pretty clear that as a PR holder one has to maintain the residence in Canada but I wanna know the tolerance level of Visa officer what time period they consider as a violation of this? the only way to know this is to see refusals in the past what was there time period out of Canada

Ever officer would judge it differently, so its hard to tell. They can decide individually

 

[armoured]

not true, I went out of Canada back in Feb 2020 and there were no exit immigration

They get the exit info from airports/airlines. For land borders, info sharing with USA. (Actually possible they get the exit info from USA at airports too, where there are US customs facilities etc. But likely that would be duplicate info)

 

[The Robust]

Ever officer would judge it differently, so its hard to tell. They can decide individually

Agreed, that is why I am searching posts from the past to see what's there tolerance level is but could not find any

 

[The Robust]

They get the exit info from airports/airlines. For land borders, info sharing with USA. (Actually possible they get the exit info from USA at airports too, where there are US customs facilities etc. But likely that would be duplicate info)

How they will get this info from the airport when there is no Exit Immigration? Airlines will not provide them such info on a regular basis

 

[armoured]

How they will get this info from the airport when there is no Exit Immigration? Airlines will not provide them such info on a regular basis

Yes, they will and do. Otherwise they would find their landing rights revoked quickly. There are also check-in systems that can be used. You cannot go through an airport these days without this info being shared.

There are also no-fly lists, all the relevant info is shared with government.

 

[The Robust]

Yes, they will and do. Otherwise they would find their landing rights revoked quickly. There are also check-in systems that can be used. You cannot go through an airport these days without this info being shared.

There are also no-fly lists, all the relevant info is shared with government.

anyways, this is a separate topic to discuss my questions was related to how much time a PR holder can spend out of Canada and still considered as a Canadian resident could not find any posts related to this on the foum

 

[armoured]

anyways, this is a separate topic to discuss my questions was related to how much time a PR holder can spend out of Canada and still considered as a Canadian resident could not find any posts related to this on the foum

There are plenty of posts on this, you just don't like the answers.

 

[screech339]

I had a case of a mutual friend of ours, a canadian sponsor, spent too much time outside Canada. The sponsor applied "inland" so that his/her spouse can get "OWP". The IRCC somehow found out that he/she spent too much time outside Canada to be considered "living" in Canada. They ultimately rejected the application on that account alone. I warned this person not to abuse the "inland" sponsor requirement. He/she refused to heed my warning and look where it got him/her. He/she thought the same as Robust was thinking, "How can Canada keep track of my travels since there was no "exit" tracking" They couldn't appeal the decision since it was an Inland sponsorship. They had start all over again.

Point being is that IRCC were able to somehow track his/her exits out of Canada despite "there is no exit tracking system" in place.

 

[The Robust]

There are plenty of posts on this, you just don't like the answers.

I am looking for the actual cases where someone was refused due to this, not personal opinions and interpretations

Kindly, share a link for an actual case if you know any

 

[The Robust]

I had a case of a mutual friend of ours, a canadian sponsor, spent too much time outside Canada. The sponsor applied "inland" so that his/her spouse can get "OWP". The IRCC somehow found out that he/she spent too much time outside Canada to be considered "living" in Canada. They ultimately rejected the application on that account alone. I warned this person not to abuse the "inland" sponsor requirement. He/she refused to heed my warning and look where it got him/her. He/she thought the same as Robust was thinking, "How can Canada keep track of my travels since there was no "exit" tracking" They couldn't appeal the decision since it was an Inland sponsorship. They had start all over again.

Point being is that IRCC were able to somehow track his/her exits out of Canada despite "there is no exit tracking system" in place.

"too much time" is a vague statement, kindly tell how much exactly? and secondly, the case you have mentioned is a different scenario.

lastly, no one is arguing that IRCC won't know or hiding something from them.

if you know about any case which was outland and sponsor spend 2 months out of Canada and 10 months in Canada and still got refusal for this reason kindly share the link with me.

Thanks

 

[screech339]

"too much time" is a vague statement, kindly tell how much exactly? and secondly, the case you have mentioned is a different scenario.

lastly, no one is arguing that IRCC won't know or hiding something from them.

if you know about any case which was outland and sponsor spend 2 months out of Canada and 10 months in Canada and still got refusal for this reason kindly share the link with me.

Thanks

No point in arguing with you. You want to take 2.3 months outside Canada, be my guest. I am not going to stop you at all. You have be warned about it, especially you being PR yourself. So go ahead and take your chance. But if, on the off chance, that your application goes into jeopardy or rejected because of you being outside Canada too long, don't come back claiming it's unfair or questioned how Canada track your exits. What you want is us telling you it's okay when it is, in fact, NOT. We all gave you suggestions that you limit your time outside Canada as PR to 2-3 weeks. You need to be aware of your choice and it's consequences of it. You came on here hoping to push the envelope hoping you can bend the rules of PR applicant requirement. You have to realize that nobody goes out of Canada for 2-3 months vacation, that is not the norm (2-3 weeks/year is the norm) and border agents knows this. They are not stupid. Just because there is no example or actual cases you are looking for are found online or on file doesn't mean it doesn't exist or doesn't happen. Perhaps you can sign up to be a Guinea pig and see for yourself what can happen if you stayed outside Canada for 2.3 months as PR sponsor.

On a side note, the border agent can probably see on your file on your return that you have an inland PR sponsorship in progress. If you don't see an agent on return, the computer can track your info into the system by you scanning your passport/PR card on return at self-check kiosks. You have an UIC number that the computer can link through the system that you have a PR application in progress.

 

[Ude]

I think the Op already made up his mind and just needs some assurances that nothing will happen.

Like other posters have said; leaving for 2-3 months ain’t vacation or short period of time, so you risk your application being denied for that purpose.

The rule says ‘PRs must be in Canada during the sponsorship application’!!!

 

[The Robust]

No point in arguing with you. You want to take 2.3 months outside Canada, be my guest. I am not going to stop you at all. You have be warned about it, especially you being PR yourself. So go ahead and take your chance. But if, on the off chance, that your application goes into jeopardy or rejected because of you being outside Canada too long, don't come back claiming it's unfair or questioned how Canada track your exits. What you want is us telling you it's okay when it is, in fact, NOT. We all gave you suggestions that you limit your time outside Canada as PR to 2-3 weeks. You need to be aware of your choice and it's consequences of it. You came on here hoping to push the envelope hoping you can bend the rules of PR applicant requirement. You have to realize that nobody goes out of Canada for 2-3 months vacation, that is not the norm (2-3 weeks/year is the norm) and border agents knows this. They are not stupid. Just because there is no example or actual cases you are looking for are found online or on file doesn't mean it doesn't exist or doesn't happen. Perhaps you can sign up to be a Guinea pig and see for yourself what can happen if you stayed outside Canada for 2.3 months as PR sponsor.

On a side note, the border agent can probably see on your file on your return that you have an inland PR sponsorship in progress. If you don't see an agent on return, the computer can track your info into the system by you scanning your passport/PR card on return at self-check kiosks. You have an UIC number that the computer can link through the system that you have a PR application in progress.

again you are telling me your personal opinion and interpretations but I asked you please share a link for an actual case on this forum where someone was refused a visa but I am assuming you don't know any.

 

[The Robust]

I think the Op already made up his mind and just needs some assurances that nothing will happen.

Like other posters have said; leaving for 2-3 months ain’t vacation or short period of time, so you risk your application being denied for that purpose.

The rule says ‘PRs must be in Canada during the sponsorship application’!!!

did you read my comment I didn't ask for suggestions and opinions/interpretations of Residency requirements.

do you know any cases on this forum which were refused visa kindly share the link?

 

[screech339]

did you read my comment I didn't ask for suggestions and opinions/interpretations of Residency requirements.

do you know any cases on this forum which were refused visa kindly share the link?

We all know what you are doing. You are trying to justify yourself in staying longer than normally done for PR and if you get caught, you want to sue IRCC over it since there are "no cases" found anywhere. It won't matter if there are actual cases or none out there. All that matters that is the onus is on YOU to obey the rules of PR sponsorship. If a PR sponsor actually pulled it off and got away with it in the past, it doesn't mean it won't happen to you either. It all come back to your choices and it's possible consequences of your action.