Sponsor leaving Canada temporarily

[Sherine K]

Can the sponsor leave Canada temporarily for 3-4 weeks during the sponsorship process? Also, is it recommended to leave before AOR is received?

 

[scylla]

Can the sponsor leave Canada temporarily for 3-4 weeks during the sponsorship process? Also, is it recommended to leave before AOR is received?

3-4 week trip is fine if you are a PR. Don't make it too much longer than that. I'm assuming this is an outland application.

 

[Sherine K]

Thanks for confirming. Yes it’s an Outland application.

 

[The Robust]

3-4 week trip is fine if you are a PR. Don't make it too much longer than that. I'm assuming this is an outland application.

Can you please share links for the posts where people got refusal for staying too long out of Canada thanks

 

[scylla]

Can you please share links for the posts where people got refusal for staying too long out of Canada thanks

I tried looking but couldn't find any. There's no easy way to search for these.

We see a few of these each year (but not very many at all). Sometimes they are related to spousal sponsorship and other times dependent sponsorship (i.e. minor child).

 

[Phalos]

I tried looking but couldn't find any. There's no easy way to search for these.

We see a few of these each year (but not very many at all). Sometimes they are related to spousal sponsorship and other times dependent sponsorship (i.e. minor child).

1.How do they know a PR leaves Canada? Same for CC's?
2.Does ircc make regular checks with CBSA about every single Sponsor movement?

 

[scylla]

1.How do they know a PR leaves Canada? Same for CC's?
2.Does ircc make regular checks with CBSA about every single Sponsor movement?

I'm not sure if it's ever been really clear how IRCC has determined the PR has left Canada. At least not that I remember. The refusals I'm thinking of all happened after SA where the sponsor waited for SA and then left Canada.

I don't know what you mean by "CC".

 

[armoured]

1.How do they know a PR leaves Canada? Same for CC's?
2.Does ircc make regular checks with CBSA about every single Sponsor movement?

1. There has been news going back more than a few years (as part of post 9/11 security tightening), and I saw an article relatively recently, that CBSA was developing (and now has in place) system to track exits from Canada, albeit with some limitations. Main basis of system as I recall was for airport departures (and I believe sharing with USA for land borders), so was said to capture 'most' departures from Canada. (Note I don't have this to hand and just my recollection)

2. I have no idea whether IRCC does regularly check this information, but would assume they have access to it.

 

[Phalos]

I'm not sure if it's ever been really clear how IRCC has determined the PR has left Canada. At least not that I remember. The refusals I'm thinking of all happened after SA where the sponsor waited for SA and then left Canada.

I don't know what you mean by "CC".

Canadian Citizens

 

[canuck78]

1.How do they know a PR leaves Canada? Same for CC's?
2.Does ircc make regular checks with CBSA about every single Sponsor movement?

Not clear but it does seem that some visa officers do checks during SA, at the end of the application and during interviews you are asked about visits and time together. Some couples even go together for the interview in the home country. It seems quite variable.

 

[scylla]

Canadian Citizens

It's generally not an issue if a Canadian citizen leaves Canada during spousal sponsorship. Citizens are allowed to sponsor a partner while outside of Canada. This is a PR-specific rule.

The only reason a Canadian citizen may run into a problem is if they are effectively living outside of Canada and cannot provide strong enough proof that they will return to Canada once their partner's visa is approved.

 

[Phalos]

1. There has been news going back more than a few years (as part of post 9/11 security tightening), and I saw an article relatively recently, that CBSA was developing (and now has in place) system to track exits from Canada, albeit with some limitations. Main basis of system as I recall was for airport departures (and I believe sharing with USA for land borders), so was said to capture 'most' departures from Canada. (Note I don't have this to hand and just my recollection)

2. I have no idea whether IRCC does regularly check this information, but would assume they have access to it.

oh just Googed it first hit came up:
As of July 11, 2019 , the CBSA collects exit information on all travellers (including Canadian and American citizens) in the land mode and in the commercial air mode as of June 25, 2020 . Exit data may also be requested through the Travel History Report.

 

[armoured]

oh just Googed it first hit came up:
As of July 11, 2019 , the CBSA collects exit information on all travellers (including Canadian and American citizens) in the land mode and in the commercial air mode as of June 25, 2020 . Exit data may also be requested through the Travel History Report.

Thanks, that was probably it. Not directly relevant to this discussion, but I'd add that although this refers to all travellers by land/commercial air modes, I would assume that before this they were collecting this information on some travellers, just not all (and how serious those gaps in info were).

My guess is that the exceptions to entry/exit that they have records of are now so limited that CBSA/govt will now basically assume that going forward they have almost-complete records. So whereas before they may not have checked or relied on CBSA records due to incompleteness, they will do so increasingly when they have a reason to check physical presence.

 

[The Robust]

I tried looking but couldn't find any. There's no easy way to search for these.

We see a few of these each year (but not very many at all). Sometimes they are related to spousal sponsorship and other times dependent sponsorship (i.e. minor child).

I also searched a lot but could not find anything concrete most of them are your comments saying do not leave for more than 3 weeks haahahaha

it's pretty clear that as a PR holder one has to maintain the residence in Canada but I wanna know the tolerance level of Visa officer what time period they consider as a violation of this? the only way to know this is to see refusals in the past what was there time period out of Canada

 

[The Robust]

oh just Googed it first hit came up:
As of July 11, 2019 , the CBSA collects exit information on all travellers (including Canadian and American citizens) in the land mode and in the commercial air mode as of June 25, 2020 . Exit data may also be requested through the Travel History Report.

not true, I went out of Canada back in Feb 2020 and there were no exit immigration