DECEMBER 2019 *OUTLAND* SPOUSAL SPONSORSHIP

[Phalos]

I personally think that a spouse who earns average 70k gives about similar or more in taxes than what a student gives by paying fees.

Somehow this countries' priority isn't right.

A foreign spouse who lands in Canada wont find any work on average 6-12 months, some up to 3 years...so its a liability, not a money maker...also little way a landed immigrant is gonna make 70K in the first few years...most likely work at Tim Hortons.

 

[patnikrishna]

A foreign spouse who lands in Canada wont find any work on average 6-12 months, some up to 3 years...so its a liability, not a money maker...also little way a landed immigrant is gonna make 70K in the first few years...most likely work at Tim Hortons.

my wife is in Canada since 5 months and has already gotten calls for interviews from 4 companies. Spouses are not a liability. Working at Tim Hortons also generates taxes and is a part of the economy.

 

[muscletech]

I personally think that a spouse who earns average 70k gives about similar or more in taxes than what a student gives by paying fees.

Somehow this countries' priority isn't right.

If you are given a choice to set priorities for below 2 to let one enter in your economy/country, how would you rank them considering you need develop/stable your country/economy efficiently?:
1. Billions of $ investing students and that too in one go who are further eager to find jobs sometimes multiple by which they will again pay taxes.
2. Bring in someone without any education, financial and work history requirement on a nominal fees and no guarantee if or when that person will find a job and be able to help the economy. Moreover, probability from past experiences are that person can even run away as soon as they land and apply for a social assistance. Fraud cases are numerous in this category on which you will again get a burden of solving them.

 

[Phalos]

my wife is in Canada since 5 months and has already gotten calls for interviews from 4 companies. Spouses are not a liability. Working at Tim Hortons also generates taxes and is a part of the economy.

I hear what ur saying, however your very talented wife is not the norm for immigrating spouses, most of whom don't even speak English....
Also my point wasn't that Tim Hortons isn't part of the economy, I was just comparing your point that expecting 70K from a newly landed spouse is not realistic...

 

[armoured]

A foreign spouse who lands in Canada wont find any work on average 6-12 months, some up to 3 years...so its a liability, not a money maker...also little way a landed immigrant is gonna make 70K in the first few years...most likely work at Tim Hortons.

The big difference is that a student can be kicked out relatively easily. For PRs, with very rare exceptions, once they land and become PRs, Canada has almost no chance of canceling the status. The consequences of fraud are therefore much more serious (and fraud extremely hard to prove). A student's status self-terminates if they do not continue with their studies.

 

[Phalos]

Our situation sucks big time, no doubt. I'm just explaining the reasoning why the gov't is ignoring us. Human rights are not the top priority right now, on the opposite, Coronavirus politics is trying to strip people of their rights slowly under Covid pretext.

 

[muscletech]

The big difference is that a student can be kicked out relatively easily. For PRs, with very rare exceptions, once they land and become PRs, Canada has almost no chance of canceling the status. The consequences of fraud are therefore much more serious (and fraud extremely hard to prove). A student's status self-terminates if they do not continue with their studies.

Exact words I wanted to write but didn’t to save the length of the context.

 

[Phalos]

The big difference is that a student can be kicked out relatively easily. For PRs, with very rare exceptions, once they land and become PRs, Canada has almost no chance of canceling the status. The consequences of fraud are therefore much more serious (and fraud extremely hard to prove). A student's status self-terminates if they do not continue with their studies.

Sad but true.

 

[Phalos]

One thing though I don't understand and it bothers me as many others I'm sure. Ok, we are not a priority right now, but why isn't IRCC not being transparent by giving updates on itself, like when it at least EXPECTS to begin working on new applications, i.e. when can people expect AOR1, etc.
Its not acceptable of a public service who took our money to be in complete radio silence since 6 months...spewing out the same BS - we are still working on February files - which is complete disinformation and utter BS. Let people know whats REALLY going on! Say it like it is - like we have stopped all processing, we can't handle the workload, we are underfunded and therefore we made PR lowest priority and we can expect to resume processing in X amount of time.

 

[muscletech]

One thing though I don't understand and it bothers me as many others I'm sure. Ok, we are not a priority right now, but why isn't IRCC not being transparent by giving updates on itself, like when it at least EXPECTS to begin working on new applications, i.e. when can people expect AOR1, etc.
Its not acceptable of a public service who took our money to be in complete radio silence since 6 months...spewing out the same BS - we are still working on February files - which is complete disinformation and utter BS. Let people know whats REALLY going on! Say it like it is - like we have stopped all processing, we can't handle the workload, we are underfunded and therefore we made PR lowest priority and we can expect to resume processing in X amount of time.

This pandemic has revealed many loopholes, limitations and not so good stuff in every human being as well as in the systems which again came as a sudden shock. Everyone is trying to learn new ways to fix then and come back on the track. It is a government and they must have thought of a strategy. You never know they are building an online system to submit all the applications and that may bring down the processing times depending upon the algorithms.

 

[kentucky_mule]

For over 2 weeks I have been emailing the office of the Immigration minister and requesting them to prioritize Spousal Sponsorship. Everyday I used to get an automated email but on Friday I received an email from someone working there. I urge everyone to email the Minister and so as to take our issues seriously.

Dear XXXX:



Thank you for your correspondence of July 3, 2020, addressed to the Honourable Marco E.L. Mendicino, Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship, concerning your sponsorship undertaking on behalf of your spouse’s application for permanent residence. I have been asked to respond to your concerns.



I understand that you are looking forward to having your spouse join you in Canada. Family reunification is a priority for Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC), and every effort is made to complete the processing of partner and spousal applications as quickly as possible. However, spousal sponsorship is a two-step process. The sponsor must be assessed against the requirements of sponsorship, and the foreign national being sponsored must be assessed against the statutory requirements of being in good health and of good character; individuals who want to live permanently in Canada must meet program eligibility requirements, as well as statutory medical, criminality, and security background clearances. These requirements exist to protect the interests and safety of Canadians. The onus rests on applicants to prove that they have met the requirements for entry to Canada or that admission would not be contrary to legislative requirements. In addition, in the case of spouses and partners, the assessing officer must be satisfied that the relationship is genuine and not entered into for immigration purposes only.



IRCC conducts background checks by working together with partner agencies, such as the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA), medical authorities, and agencies of foreign governments. Background screening processes are non-discriminatory and universal in their application. Any delays or requirements that the Department’s partner agencies may need in providing input are something over which IRCC has no control.



Departmental records indicate that this application was received on February xx, 2020. The current processing time for applications in this category is approximately 12 months from the date of receipt of the completed application.



Although the impacts of the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) have had an effect on the Department’s operations and ability to respond to and process applications, I would like to assure you that IRCC continues to explore options to facilitate processing in these extraordinary times, including finalizing applications virtually, and applicants are contacted by immigration officers should additional information or documentation be required, or as soon as a final decision has been made.



Thank you for taking the time to write. I trust that this information is helpful to you.



Sincerely,



P. MacLeod

Ministerial Enquiries Division



This electronic address is not available for reply.

 

[patnikrishna]

For over 2 weeks I have been emailing the office of the Immigration minister and requesting them to prioritize Spousal Sponsorship. Everyday I used to get an automated email but on Friday I received an email from someone working there. I urge everyone to email the Minister and so as to take our issues seriously.

superb, I'm going to follow your approach

 

[rattan786]

For over 2 weeks I have been emailing the office of the Immigration minister and requesting them to prioritize Spousal Sponsorship. Everyday I used to get an automated email but on Friday I received an email from someone working there. I urge everyone to email the Minister and so as to take our issues seriously.

That's good that they have mind. i don't know why but their reply seems to explain how immigration is done and what steps are involved rather saying if they are doing anything to prioritize family visa.

 

[rattan786]

• Canada Visa Application Centres reopened
• From 10 August 2020, the Canada Visa Application Centres in Georgetown (Guyana), Rabat (Morocco), Al Khobar, Jeddah and Riyadh (Saudi Arabia), and Kampala (Uganda) will resume enrolling biometrics for BIL holders only.
  The Canada Visa Application Centre in Kuwait City (Kuwait), will resume operations on 2 August 2020.
  The Canada Visa Application Centres Ouagadougou (Burkina Faso), New York (USA), Kigali (Rwanda), Dublin (Ireland), London (UK), Singapore, Amman (Jordan), Port Louis (Mauritius) and Tbilisi (Georgia) have resumed operations.
  The centres in Ankara and Istanbul (Turkey), and Kingston and Montego Bay (Jamaica) have reopened for biometrics collection for BIL holders only, as well as the return of decision envelopes.
  The centres in Lyiv and Lviv (Ukraine) have resumed operations.
  The centres in Warsaw (Poland) and Beirut (Lebanon) have resumed operations. The Warsaw centre will operate from 8.30 AM to 4.30 PM on Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays. The centre in Beirut will operate on all business days from 8 AM t0 2 PM.
  The centre in Castries (St. Lucia) is now operating from 7.30 AM to 12.30 PM.
  The centre in Kingstown (St. Vincent and the Grenadines) is now operating on Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays from 7.30 AM to 12.30 PM.
  The centres in Madrid (Spain) and Bangkok (Thailand) are now operating every Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
  The centre in Port of Spain (Trinidad & Tobago) is now accepting applications from 8 AM to 1 PM.
  The centres in Sydney (Australia), Suva (Fiji), Paris and Lyon (France), Auckland (New Zealand), Colombo (Sri Lanka) have resumed operations offering limited services.
  The centre in Berlin (Germany) is currently operating from 9 AM to 5.30 PM.
  The centre in Accra (Ghana) is open from 9 AM to 1 PM, and the one in Belgrade (Serbia) from 9 AM to 12 PM.
  The centre in Bucharest (Romania) will accept applications on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
  The centre in Rome (Italy) is now operational every Tuesday from 8.30 AM to 5 PM.
  The centres in Osaka and Tokyo (Japan) have resumed operations at limited hours, from 10 AM to 5 PM.
  The centre in and The Hague (The Netherlands) has resumed operations on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
  The centres in Athens (Greece) and Vienna (Austria) has resumed operations from 9 AM to 5.30 PM, Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia) from 9 AM to 3 PM, and Dusseldorf (Germany) on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays from 9 AM to 5.30 PM.
  The centres in Dubai and Abu Dhabi (UAE) from 10 AM to 6 PM and 12 PM to 6 PM respectively, for biometric collection and passport passback services.
  The centre in Manama (Bahrain) has resumed operations from 8 AM to 12 PM for biometric collection and passport passback services.
  The centre in Tel Aviv (Israel) has resumed operations on 27 May 2020 and will operate from 9 AM to 3.30 PM for return of decision envelopes to applicants and for biometrics collection for Biometric Instruction Letter (BIL) holders only.
  The centre in Dar-es-Salaam (Tanzania)

 

[LotusLeodis]

rather saying if they are doing anything to prioritize family visa.

This. And what they are doing to prioritise family visas.