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Arrima Applications - Invited in 2019 by MIDI

anurag123sri

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Feb 11, 2019
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Did any one receive letter from goverment to company that issued VJO?
Yesterday administration company call me and said we received a letter from government about your VJO that still working or not and will work for next year or not.

That's a good sign mate at least they are working on your application that's good hope you hear good news soon :)
 

mkukku

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Feb 21, 2016
115
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Did any one receive letter from goverment to company that issued VJO?
Yesterday administration company call me and said we received a letter from government about your VJO that still working or not and will work for next year or not.
nope, hearing this for the first time
 

Jo123456

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May 13, 2020
149
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Whatever dude. if wasn't the new system you would be in the limbo anyway, now at least you know whats is going on. And since 2016 you didn't have the chance to learn French and apply through PEQ or whatever?!... lazy and now playing the victim ...
Edveigae ,

I believe you need to learn more about PEQ system , Nikos mentioned that he started work on june 2019 , so he can't apply in PEQ till July 2020

Before he was on old system and his file is cancelled but not here in Quebec , he must complete 1 year working in Quebec to apply PEQ
 
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Nikos1978

Hero Member
Jan 8, 2020
367
290
Quebec - Quebec City
Category........
QSW
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
2171
App. Filed.......
30-06-2020
AOR Received.
12-08-2021
Med's Request
22-09-2021
Med's Done....
01-10-2021
VISA ISSUED...
16-10-2021
Whatever dude. if wasn't the new system you would be in the limbo anyway, now at least you know whats is going on. And since 2016 you didn't have the chance to learn French and apply through PEQ or whatever?!... lazy and now playing the victim ...
I'm french so my french is quiet good
And no it was not possible or easy to me to come and work in Quebec before 2019, that's why, at first, I tried to have my CSQ with Mon Projet Quebec.
But the new government prefered to destroy the life of thousands people.
 
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Edveigae

Star Member
Feb 14, 2019
98
50
Montreal
Category........
QSW
NOC Code......
2241
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
CSQ
Edveigae ,

I believe you need to learn more about PEQ system , Nikos mentioned that he started work on june 2019 , so he can't apply in PEQ till July 2020

Before he was on old system and his file is cancelled but not here in Quebec , he must complete 1 year working in Quebec to apply PEQ
And because of the new system now he can see his CSQ progressing before bill 9 was a complete mess to everyone. PEQ yes, I will read about it to make you happy!
 

Edveigae

Star Member
Feb 14, 2019
98
50
Montreal
Category........
QSW
NOC Code......
2241
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
CSQ
I'm french so my french is quiet good
And no it was not possible or easy to me to come and work in Quebec before 2019, that's why, at first, I tried to have my CSQ with Mon Projet Quebec.
But the new government prefered to destroy the life oh thousands people.
I don't agree that you are always saying "the govt destroyed the files", they needed to reset the system, Quebec is way behind compared to the federal system, and at some point, the federal govt did the same for the EE and now we see how it runs smoothly.
 

Edveigae

Star Member
Feb 14, 2019
98
50
Montreal
Category........
QSW
NOC Code......
2241
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
CSQ
& Learn french please with PEQ to be more happy LoL
happier you mean. PEQ was an option before, since my test results took months to be ready because of this crisis PEQ is not an option anymore. My CSQ is in progress already. you are not even affected by bill 9, it's because of the new system that your CSQ is coming soon.....
 

Nikos1978

Hero Member
Jan 8, 2020
367
290
Quebec - Quebec City
Category........
QSW
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
2171
App. Filed.......
30-06-2020
AOR Received.
12-08-2021
Med's Request
22-09-2021
Med's Done....
01-10-2021
VISA ISSUED...
16-10-2021
I don't agree that you are always saying "the govt destroyed the files", they needed to reset the system, Quebec is way behind compared to the federal system, and at some point, the federal govt did the same for the EE and now we see how it runs smoothly.
No at first they said, we will process all backlog in the old system, and we will launch the new system in parallel.
Two weeks later they changed their mind...

Now we see that that in the new system there is only 2000 files. They started in july 2019 and now we are in may 2020 and there is backlog too, that's not efficient at all !
Before Arrima they were processing about 1500 files per month (Regular program not PEQ), now it's very very slow.
 

Edveigae

Star Member
Feb 14, 2019
98
50
Montreal
Category........
QSW
NOC Code......
2241
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
CSQ
No at first they said, we will process all backlog in the old system, and we will launch the new system in parallel.
Two weeks later they changed their mind...

Now we see that that in the new system there is only 2000 files. They started in july 2019 and now we are in may 2020 and there is backlog too, that's not efficient at all !
Before Arrima they were processing about 1500 files per month (Regular program not PEQ), now it's very very slow.
there are more reasons for this delay, what I heard (not official) is that the previous govt issued CSQs with no criteria, even for refugees *there were a high demand when Trump was elected), and they just exploded the quote that they have with the Federal govt, it can be one reason why the PR can take 18months... unfortunately we are going through all the changes while they are fixing their own mess. But you know, we are living here with jobs, could be way worst. Quebec: they show how you can love and hate it at the same time lol.
 

Blessme00

Star Member
Dec 2, 2019
135
32
Hi I'm a qswp applicant. Got csq on 2016.Federal applied on July 2019.I m waiting for AOR. When I will get that any idea!? Including biometric fee I applied.
 

ncat99

Hero Member
Jan 22, 2019
351
265
I have been going thru some of the previous posts regarding Bill 9 victims & the new Arrima system. Let me try to chime in with my opinionated opinion :)

My profile: I was previously on H1B in the US and because of my country of birth, I will never be getting a green card in my lifetime, so I immediately accepted a job offer by a small but specialized software company in Quebec and they did my LMIA and I & my spouse landed in 2016's end.
I learned some French by immersion, nowhere fluent. I am working fulltime and spouse is too. My NOC is 2173.

I applied for CSQ early 2017 and unlucky me, illegal border crossers started coming from Lacolle and the Liberal govt started focussing on them instead of skilled workers like me who are already working and paying taxes in Quebec. Also they were issuing CSQs without any regards to skills/merits but on a first come first serve basis. So a process which was taking 6 months grew to 1 or more years. This also increased the backlog at Federal level, currently its 22 months (thanks of CAQ govt for this, its another story)

So finally and luckily I received CSQ in 2018 October (1 & half years) after much uncertainty and no communications from MIDI. I have seen a lot of people who got into Quebec because of this lottery system. They are now Uber drivers and delivery boys and many of them living on govt. benefits without any tax contribution. They say they do 'Cash only jobs'. They say Quebec is the best province to freeload. It really hurts to be on the short end of the stick when I see these freeloaders in Quebec in particular and Canada in general.

So yes, the Liberal govt. in Quebec was too liberal in attracting asylum & illegals (Media & govt. like to call them irregular in a politically correct way) in 2016 and issued more CSQs than the Federal system can handle and the backlogs continue to this day. Liberals got voted out by CAQ on an anti immigrant rhetoric. Cant blame the xenophobes who voted for CAQ in Quebec because they saw those scenes from Olympic village full of illegal border crossers.

Now CAQ wants to "fix" this broken lottery system and did what most lazy govt. do. Cancel everything and bring in a new system. They also cut the economic quota at Federal level by 20% (Canada Quebec Accord), so the waiting time at Federal increased from 11 months to 22 months currently. Liberals were the ones who started Arrima but CAQ took over and released the system. So Quebeckers who voted for CAQ were appeased. Little do they know that the system is not working yet as intended, after all who cares about future immigrants ? They are here to take their jobs right ?

In short, Quebec immigration dept. is least interested to fix/speed up these things and it will take a long long time. There is no incentive for Quebec's immigration dept to fix any of this. They are under no pressure to be transparent in any of their processes. Only an access to information act will reveal their inner workings. As we do not know the process of obtaining information from MIDI, we cannot know what is really happening inside this dept. without Access to Information methods. We can only know what is published in their website but I do think those are not necessarily followed. (immigration plans, processing times or service delivery commitments etc)

So if anyone is interested, here are the Access to Information letters they have published from their website. You can read those responses and arrive at a conclusion if MIFI is doing their job or not. You will get a lot of stats like how many CSQs were issued etc.
http://www.mifi.gouv.qc.ca/publications/fr/ministere/acces-information/Diffusion-Demandes-Acces-Documents_2020.pdf

Each one is on your own. If you have enough points, get out of Quebec and apply for Express Entry is my advice. Now if you ask me, inspite of all these, why I didnt go for Express Entry ? Its only because I like my employer and the job thats the reason I stay in Quebec. I had enough points for Express Entry in 2016 itself !

Now lets talk about Canada Quebec Accord, many do not know that there is quota limit at Federal stage even after receiving your CSQ be it PEQ or Regular, this quota affects your processing time for PR. CAQ govt has cut this quota by 20% and it increased the processing time from 11 months to 22 months now. Keep this in mind. You are not out of the danger zone yet even if you get a CSQ. Thats why I advice everyone to go for Express Entry if you have points. Now with COVID-19, CAQ's Legault will have to appease Quebeckers, he will be scapegoating future immigrants and skilled temporary workers like us for sure when this is all over. He will cut down CSQ issuances, will also cut Federal quota again.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/mandate/policies-operational-instructions-agreements/agreements/federal-provincial-territorial/quebec/canada-quebec-accord-relating-immigration-temporary-admission-aliens.html

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/mandate/policies-operational-instructions-agreements/agreements/federal-provincial-territorial/quebec/canada-quebec-accord-made-easy.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–Québec_Accord_relating_to_Immigration_and_Temporary_Admission_of_Aliens

CSQs Issued.



If anyone wants to know how many CSQ's were issued post Bill 9 and under what professions.
Here is the Access to Information PDF link for that.

http://www.mifi.gouv.qc.ca/publications/fr/ministere/acces-information/18210.pdf
 
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Blessme00

Star Member
Dec 2, 2019
135
32
I have been going thru some of the previous posts regarding Bill 9 victims & the new Arrima system. Let me try to chime in with my opinionated opinion :)

My profile: I was previously on H1B in the US and because of my country of birth, I will never be getting a green card in my lifetime, so I immediately accepted a job offer by a small but specialized software company in Quebec and they did my LMIA and I & my spouse landed in 2016's end.
I learned some French by immersion, nowhere fluent. I am working fulltime and spouse is too. My NOC is 2173.

I applied for CSQ early 2017 and unlucky me, illegal border crossers started coming from Lacolle and the Liberal govt started focussing on them instead of skilled workers like me who are already working and paying taxes in Quebec. Also they were issuing CSQs without any regards to skills/merits but on a first come first serve basis. So a process which was taking 6 months grew to 1 or more years. This also increased the backlog at Federal level, currently its 22 months (thanks of CAQ govt for this, its another story)

So finally and luckily I received CSQ in 2018 October (1 & half years) after much uncertainty and no communications from MIDI. I have seen a lot of people who got into Quebec because of this lottery system. They are now Uber drivers and delivery boys and many of them living on govt. benefits without any tax contribution. They say they do 'Cash only jobs'. They say Quebec is the best province to freeload. It really hurts to be on the short end of the stick when I see these freeloaders in Quebec in particular and Canada in general.

So yes, the Liberal govt. in Quebec was too liberal in attracting asylum & illegals (Media & govt. like to call them irregular in a politically correct way) in 2016 and issued more CSQs than the Federal system can handle and the backlogs continue to this day. Liberals got voted out by CAQ on an anti immigrant rhetoric. Cant blame the xenophobes who voted for CAQ in Quebec because they saw those scenes from Olympic village full of illegal border crossers.

Now CAQ wants to "fix" this broken lottery system and did what most lazy govt. do. Cancel everything and bring in a new system. They also cut the economic quota at Federal level by 20% (Canada Quebec Accord), so the waiting time at Federal increased from 11 months to 22 months currently. Liberals were the ones who started Arrima but CAQ took over and released the system. So Quebeckers who voted for CAQ were appeased. Little do they know that the system is not working yet as intended, after all who cares about future immigrants ? They are here to take their jobs right ?

In short, Quebec immigration dept. is least interested to fix/speed up these things and it will take a long long time. There is no incentive for Quebec's immigration dept to fix any of this. They are under no pressure to be transparent in any of their processes. Only an access to information act will reveal their inner workings. As we do not know the process of obtaining information from MIDI, we cannot know what is really happening inside this dept. without Access to Information methods. We can only know what is published in their website but I do think those are not necessarily followed. (immigration plans, processing times or service delivery commitments etc)

So if anyone is interested, here are the Access to Information letters they have published from their website. You can read those responses and arrive at a conclusion if MIFI is doing their job or not. You will get a lot of stats like how many CSQs were issued etc.
http://www.mifi.gouv.qc.ca/publications/fr/ministere/acces-information/Diffusion-Demandes-Acces-Documents_2020.pdf

Each one is on your own. If you have enough points, get out of Quebec and apply for Express Entry is my advice. Now if you ask me, inspite of all these, why I didnt go for Express Entry ? Its only because I like my employer and the job thats the reason I stay in Quebec. I had enough points for Express Entry in 2016 itself !

Now lets talk about Canada Quebec Accord, many do not know that there is quota limit at Federal stage even after receiving your CSQ be it PEQ or Regular, this quota affects your processing time for PR. CAQ govt has cut this quota by 20% and it increased the processing time from 11 months to 22 months now. Keep this in mind. You are not out of the danger zone yet even if you get a CSQ. Thats why I advice everyone to go for Express Entry if you have points. Now with COVID-19, CAQ's Legault will have to appease Quebeckers, he will be scapegoating future immigrants and skilled temporary workers like us for sure when this is all over. He will cut down CSQ issuances, will also cut Federal quota again.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/mandate/policies-operational-instructions-agreements/agreements/federal-provincial-territorial/quebec/canada-quebec-accord-relating-immigration-temporary-admission-aliens.html

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/mandate/policies-operational-instructions-agreements/agreements/federal-provincial-territorial/quebec/canada-quebec-accord-made-easy.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–Québec_Accord_relating_to_Immigration_and_Temporary_Admission_of_Aliens

CSQs Issued.



If anyone wants to know how many CSQ's were issued post Bill 9 and under what professions.
Here is the Access to Information PDF link for that.

http://www.mifi.gouv.qc.ca/publications/fr/ministere/acces-information/18210.pdf
So we will not get AOR right?
 

ncat99

Hero Member
Jan 22, 2019
351
265
So we will not get AOR right?
You are asking in the wrong thread. You are always cross posting your questions in unrelated threads.
To answer your question, You will get AOR, but not within 3 or 4 months like before. It doesn't matter when you get AOR, your processing time will be still 22 months. Feds can be trusted to keep their words, not MIFI.