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The anatomy of a Background Check? - <<<<<<IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS>>>>>>>

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,045
9,900
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon Hello Sir, Please help me with my husband's application. I applied in Aug 2017 and immigration asked me to send my husband's job details since he is a cop in India.....which I sent on November 14th, 2018 and I did the MP inquiry today and they said that CSIS has done their part of security and the file is now with CBSA.......which I guess is the last step......do you know how long would it take to get PPR from here? Please let me know since I can't find a clear timeline from anyone.....I can't thank you enough for helping everyone on this thread.....you truly are a great person.....thanks a lot and please let me know!!!
I cannot speculate, but if CSIS has concluded its involvement, then CBSA will too do so soon. It may take a few weeks.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,045
9,900
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon

My AOR is 25 Aug 2018. (CEC Inland)
Eligibility: Recommended pass
Criminality & medical: Passed
IP2: Nov 28
Security: Started (don't know when but got to know when I called CIC agent in mid-Dec)
Renewed passport on 4th Jan and same day uploaded using the web form.

Is my application delayed because of my passport?
Is my application is under SS?
I don't have much traveling other than Canada, USA & India.

Your response is highly appreciated.
Thanks.
Renewing your passport has nothing to do with the processing of your application.

To know if your are under SS, you will need to see your GCMS notes or CBSA notes. If you have crossed 2-3 months post eligibility, then you may be in SS.
 

navidshsh

Newbie
Jan 12, 2019
4
0
I've got a reply on my email from Mr. Goodale he said Eligibility, Criminality and security checks are passed as 21 Dec 2018, is it all the security checks ? and all the background check is done ? and while my medical is expired what is the next step ?
 

karrotkeyk

Full Member
Aug 1, 2017
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4
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oman
Category........
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I've got a reply on my email from Mr. Goodale he said Eligibility, Criminality and security checks are passed as 21 Dec 2018, is it all the security checks ? and all the background check is done ? and while my medical is expired what is the next step ?
Usually, they will request you to do medical again. After passing medical will be PPR. Do you know when your SS started? What’s your AOR?
 

Leonard12

Full Member
Jun 26, 2018
33
7
Congratulations!!
Hello Sir,

I went through you anatomy of a Background check and found it extremely helpful !!
My timeline is : -

AOR - 4th Sept
Medical passed - 28th Sept
Background check in progress - 6th December

It's been more than a month now. Do you reckon they might have passed the eligibility assessment. As it took more than 2 months after I passed my medical to start my background check.

And what is general time they take to complete the background check ? I have been following my immi tracker, and I have noticed it has been taking more than normal time to send the ppr email.
 

catoleafy

Newbie
Jan 14, 2019
3
0
Dear Sir @legalfalco,

Thank you for your detail anatomy of the BGC. Here's my application timeline:

Documents received : Sep.2017
FN: Dec.2017
MR: April 2018,
MR passed May,2018
Category: Quebec CSQ,(like PNP?) , application inland.
And after that no news!!

I called CIC in Aug,2018, they told me everything is done from my side, no additional documents required, they only to process the background. However, until today, it has been 8 months. I called CIC again this morning, the CSR told me the background check(security check) has not been started yet.(Pending there for 8 months!!) Since it is still within the process lead time (which has been told to delayed again and again), I can't do nothing more unless waiting until April. 2019. I am so frustrated, since my friends who just applied one month before me got PPR at the end of 2018. I've no idea what happened to my file. Would you please be so kind and give me some advice on what I should do right now except for hopeless waiting? Thank you so much.

FYI , the processing time I was told was 12 months, then 14 months, then 18 months, and today is 19 months. But my friend got lucky, his application is finished within 13 months.

They seem just extending the lead time for the delay.
 

Princemad

Full Member
Jan 9, 2019
30
5
C. How is the security screening done?

Security screening is all about collecting as much data about the applicant and analyzing it. To make this easy to understand I am dividing the answer to this question in two parts, collecting data and analysis.

a) Collecting data

CSIS collects data about an applicant through its own databases, the shared databases from countries that have partnered with Canada, international agencies, and by requesting information from foreign countries.

CSIS maintains and regularly updates its databases with information from coming in across the world. This includes data on the names of individuals involved in illegal activities, terrorist activities, political activities etc. This database is further fueled by agencies such as INTERPOL, which releases information shared by member countries and accessible by other member countries. To provide you with an example, a criminal incident (including white collar crime and financial fraud) involving foreign nationals, which happened in a country in Europe is under investigation. To arrest these individuals, the European country will release information to INTERPOL, which will be shared to all member nations. CSIS, based on this released information, will gather more information and update its databases, even though the suspects are not in Canada. This is how the database keeps growing.

After the attacks of 9/11, US and Canada to deal with terrorism had many high level meetings and now they share data. The US authorities have access to Canadian database and vise versa. Similarly, Canada partnered with UK, New Zealand, and Australia, which it calls partner nations, and these partners share date, including criminal records, with each other. This is a very complicated process, as if there is a lead picked up by the security agency in Australia, the names and identities of the suspects is immediately released to Canada and other partners. Canada does the same. This is how the database is growing rapidly every minute.

Finally, when CSIS has concerns with a specific applicant, based on his travel history, or his connections, political involvement, etc. they can seek information from foreign government under Section 16 of the CSIS Act.​

Collection of information concerning foreign states and persons

16 (1) Subject to this section, the Service may, in relation to the defence of Canada or the conduct of the international affairs of Canada, assist the Minister of National Defence or the Minister of Foreign Affairs, within Canada, in the collection of information or intelligence relating to the capabilities, intentions or activities of

(a) any foreign state or group of foreign states; or
(b) any person other than
(i) a Canadian citizen,
(ii) a permanent resident within the meaning of subsection 2(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, or
(iii) a corporation incorporated by or under an Act of Parliament or of the legislature of a province.


b) Analyzing Data

All relevant information collected by the CSIS is exhaustively analysed in order to assist IRCC in its subsequent decision as to whether they are inadmissible under the IRPA. “The term ‘security screenings’ refers to the procedures used to identify persons seeking admission to Canada who are, or have been, involved in espionage, subversion, or terrorism.” Although the term refers to the scrutiny of an applicant’s political orientation, beliefs and activities, as part of the normal immigrant selection process, criminal records checks are also conducted wherever possible. In analyzing the data the CSIS broadly is concerned with the following:​

i. espionage, terrorism or unacceptable political activity
ii. persons who may engage in violence
iii. persons who may have committed war crimes
iv. persons who pose a threat to Canadian security
v. persons involved with terrorist governments​


D. What are the processing times?

There is no recent data released by CSIS on the processing times. However, in 2014-2015 CSIS processed 33,900 permanent resident applications and in 2015-2016 it processed 56,500 applications. As per the old data from early 2000s, the average processing time for security screening requests is 62 days. Fifty-one percent of all cases were completed within this time frame. The remaining 49 percent of requests averaged 110 days to complete. Less than one percent of all cases took longer than twelve months. With the introduction of biometrics for citizens from select countries, the processing times are expected to decrease. Given that the economic immigrants are a low risk category, the processing times usually range from 25 – 90 days after the introduction of the express entry for most applications.

E. What kind of applicants face stricter security screening?

In the past CSIS has been criticized for racial profiling applicants based on country of origin, race, religion, travel history, political affiliation, but these factors are the primary means of conducting security screening. Applicants from countries known to harbor terrorists, from unstable countries, of some specific religion and faith, with specific political affiliation are more prone to undergo stringent security screening. This also includes travel history to countries linked with terrorism, drug source countries, inter-religion or inter-nationality marriage etc.

Hi
Can explain me pls what is countries, inter-religion or inter-nationality marriage etc. BG
Coz i didn't understand that
THANKS
 

Thay

Hero Member
Nov 14, 2016
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Hello,

Anyone here have (or had) his background check (criminality) started right after medicals and it's still going? Even though your eligibility is passed? My eligibility is passed, but criminality in progress since July 14 '2018. It's very confusing for me.
 

catoleafy

Newbie
Jan 14, 2019
3
0
Hello,

Anyone here have (or had) his background check (criminality) started right after medicals and it's still going? Even though your eligibility is passed? My eligibility is passed, but criminality in progress since July 14 '2018. It's very confusing for me.
Hello, Are you sure your criminality is already on going ? Since my medical passed in May, 2018. But I called CIC, the agent told me my criminality doesn't even start yet. (btw, the agent would check and tell you this only if she/he is nice, some of them won't even bother to check that for you)
 

Thay

Hero Member
Nov 14, 2016
350
252
Hello, Are you sure your criminality is already on going ? Since my medical passed in May, 2018. But I called CIC, the agent told me my criminality doesn't even start yet. (btw, the agent would check and tell you this only if she/he is nice, some of them won't even bother to check that for you)
Yes, i was advised previously that it's going on, but then i didn't realize that it was started when i got MEP.... so now it's 6 months on...
 

derkdsou

Champion Member
Oct 3, 2018
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2,266
Extensive travel history

I have a question specifically for those of you that had extensive travel histories to find out whether your PPR was affected or delayed in any way.

I had roughly 100 international trips in the last 10 years, which I meticulously reported in the Travel History section of my application. The distribution of my travel by geography is 50% in the Schengen area, 15% to the US, about 25% to Asia (incl. China), and the final 10% to Mexico, South America, Africa and the Middle East. The distribution by purpose of travel is 75% for work, and 25% for tourism. I was only required to produce upfront PCCs for the UK and India, which I did.

1. Should I preemptively apply for a US PCC? (I lived in the US for 8 years up to Sept 2007.)

2. I am floating a theory (for which I'm trying to find proof): The broader your travel the richer your file is in terms of data points and international info sharing, which adds confidence to your profile, I suppose?