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blue_jay

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Hi There ,
Hope you all are doing good .
I'm planning to submit my citizenship application and started working on it . I'm a little unclear about few things and need a little help .
I was wondering if somebody has already experienced these issues I'm having right now , might be able to guide me.

I landed in Canada as a Permanent Resident in August 2014 and I am very much eligible to apply my Citizenship (I checked in physical presence calculator ) . And I'm planning to submit the application in sometime March 2018 . So my Eligibility Period (according to CIC website last 5 years ) will be around March 2013 - March 2018 .

Now I have seen there is one Main Form (cit0002e-2 ) and a Document Checklist (cit0002e-2) for this application. My Concerns are ,
1. In the main form section 9 (c) it says if I lived outside of Canada during my eligibility period , and I marked yes as I was not living in Canada before August 2014 and it says to fill up another form called Residence Outside Canada (cit0177e2) . The link to the form is
"https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/pdf/kits/citizen/cit0177e-2.pdf "

This form doesn't look like that it is applicable for me :S and I'm confused that "Do I need to submit this form or not ? "

NOTE : I travelled for vacation after I land in Canada for two times in 2015 and 2017 for about a month each time . I put all the information about my vacation travel in my Physical Calculator Online .

2. In the main form section 15 (a) For Language proof I don't have any IELTS proof (It didn't require any for my PR application I was included with my spouse PR application) and I don't have any CLIC or LINC done within that time period mentioned in the form .
However , I did my undergrad outside of Canada and I studied in English and my Certificate is also in English . Do I still need to show them any kind of language proof like IELTS or the undergrad certificate should be enough ?

I apologise for this long message , I just wanted you all to have a better understanding about my situation . I hope you will be able to answer about my concerns .

Thanks in advance :)
 

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Hello,

For question 9C:

As part of the complete documentation, you HAVE to fill out Residence Outside Canada [Form CIT 0177] if you answered YES for 9C. What I did, as instructed by my lawyer, was fill out N/A for Section A questions 1, 3, 4 and 6 and Section B questions 1 and 2. I received my AOR. I guess what I did was right.
 
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amitdi

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OP, search for the FAQ thread in this section. It has answers to your question and much more.
 

3bdcanada

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I think you are not eligible to apply for citizenship because as you say your eligibility period would be March 2013-2018 and you only became a PR in 2014 so your 5 year period is August 2019... sorry about that
What are you talking about?
That's not true! if he only left Canada for 2 months since his landing (as he mentioned), then he's eligible from residence point of view.
Sorry that your first contribution to this forum is not right!
 

Joshua1

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He has to have been a PR for a MINIMUM 5 Years to apply for citizenship that is why residence calculator gave him a date of March 2013... and he can’t apply at that date because he only became a PR August 2014.. He has to wait for the 5 year mark..
I don't think it's wise to be overconfident on such a forum.

If I am not mistaken, I think it's clearly laid out on the CIC website.

To be eligible for a grant of Canadian citizenship, you must:
  • be a permanent resident (landed immigrant) of Canada
  • have been physically in Canada for at least 1095 days in the 5 years immediately before you apply
  • have filed personal income taxes for at least 3 years within the 5 year period, if required under the Income Tax Act
  • etc....
How many days from aug 1, 2014 to today? = 1,302 days (minus any days he's been away since he moved to Canada)
Now his eligibility period runs from February 23, 2013 to Feb 23, 2018; so he will need to provide a police certificate etc.
 

3bdcanada

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To apply for citizenship, you should have lived in Canada for 3 out of 5 years... he has lived in Canada for only 4 years...

So he can’t be eligible....thank you

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/become-canadian-citizen/eligibility.html#status
Did you notice that your statement contradicts itself. you mentioned: "To apply for citizenship, you should have lived in Canada for 3 out of 5 years" and then you mentioned " he has lived in Canada for only 4 years... " :) :) you just answered yourself. He lived for 3.5 years in the last 5 years which is longer than 3 out of 5 years, don't you think?
 

Davek

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Did you notice that your statement contradicts itself. you mentioned: "To apply for citizenship, you should have lived in Canada for 3 out of 5 years" and then you mentioned " he has lived in Canada for only 4 years... " :) :) you just answered yourself. He lived for 3.5 years in the last 5 years which is longer than 3 out of 5 years, don't you think?
Ooh my.. read the law.. You have to have been a permanent resident for 5 years and during that 5 years have stayed a minimum of 1095 days in Canada

Has he been a Permanent resident for 5 years.. I think not
 

Davek

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Did you notice that your statement contradicts itself. you mentioned: "To apply for citizenship, you should have lived in Canada for 3 out of 5 years" and then you mentioned " he has lived in Canada for only 4 years... " :) :) you just answered yourself. He lived for 3.5 years in the last 5 years which is longer than 3 out of 5 years, don't you think?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/check-eligibility.asp

That part there makes him ineligible.
 

amitdi

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Ooh my.. read the law.. You have to have been a permanent resident for 5 years and during that 5 years have stayed a minimum of 1095 days in Canada

Has he been a Permanent resident for 5 years.. I think not
No, thats not how it is, you are interpreting it wrong. The rule says - that you are only allowed to count days in the last 5 years, not before that.

it does not mean you have to be in Canada for 5 years or PR for 5 years.
 
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Point number 2 on your post says it clearly. I’m not being over confident..

Number 2 says
“Physically present in Canada...in the 5 years before you apply “

He has only been physically present for 4 years
You are overconfident and giving incorrect information.

He needs to be living here for 3 years (1095 days) as PR out of five year, he doesn't needs to be present here for 5 years ( it simply means you can accumulate days during the last 5 years only).

I am here for the last 3.5 years and i did my test/interview last Monday.
 
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Joshua1

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Ooh my.. read the law.. You have to have been a permanent resident for 5 years and during that 5 years have stayed a minimum of 1095 days in Canada

Has he been a Permanent resident for 5 years.. I think not
Maybe your own law?
Interestingly, a lot of us on this forum became PR in 2014 (including myself)... some already took the oath and became citizen this month.

As I said, you are misinformed and overconfident.
 
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asifmehmood

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Sept 2013
Hi There ,
Hope you all are doing good .
I'm planning to submit my citizenship application and started working on it . I'm a little unclear about few things and need a little help .
I was wondering if somebody has already experienced these issues I'm having right now , might be able to guide me.

I landed in Canada as a Permanent Resident in August 2014 and I am very much eligible to apply my Citizenship (I checked in physical presence calculator ) . And I'm planning to submit the application in sometime March 2018 . So my Eligibility Period (according to CIC website last 5 years ) will be around March 2013 - March 2018 .

Now I have seen there is one Main Form (cit0002e-2 ) and a Document Checklist (cit0002e-2) for this application. My Concerns are ,
1. In the main form section 9 (c) it says if I lived outside of Canada during my eligibility period , and I marked yes as I was not living in Canada before August 2014 and it says to fill up another form called Residence Outside Canada (cit0177e2) . The link to the form is
"https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/pdf/kits/citizen/cit0177e-2.pdf "

This form doesn't look like that it is applicable for me :S and I'm confused that "Do I need to submit this form or not ? "

NOTE : I travelled for vacation after I land in Canada for two times in 2015 and 2017 for about a month each time . I put all the information about my vacation travel in my Physical Calculator Online .

2. In the main form section 15 (a) For Language proof I don't have any IELTS proof (It didn't require any for my PR application I was included with my spouse PR application) and I don't have any CLIC or LINC done within that time period mentioned in the form .
However , I did my undergrad outside of Canada and I studied in English and my Certificate is also in English . Do I still need to show them any kind of language proof like IELTS or the undergrad certificate should be enough ?

I apologise for this long message , I just wanted you all to have a better understanding about my situation . I hope you will be able to answer about my concerns .

Thanks in advance :)
FAQ
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/c-6-citizenship-applications-frequently-asked-questions.522548/
 

3bdcanada

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Ooh my.. read the law.. You have to have been a permanent resident for 5 years and during that 5 years have stayed a minimum of 1095 days in Canada

Has he been a Permanent resident for 5 years.. I think not
Your first 6 posts on this forum are all wrong; i recommend you delete all of them and start fresh ;)