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[legalfalcon]

So you're saying all apps which were sent back to cbsa were red flagged? Nah.. then someone is not doing their job and these people with sec concerns are still in the country. Such a delayed in taking an action against them is highly questionable.
I agree that a red flag can be the reason the application sent to cbsa and then csis. But if csis report says the individual is a sec concern then they cannot wait so long to take an action. I think cbsa just has so much backlog that cannot finalize the admissibility reports and send it back to ircc. Remember, each refugee staying one more day in the country is a liability and cost to the government. Pr applicati on delays are not that big of deal comparing to the asylum seekers who crossed the border illegally and are coating tax payers.

Lookout for my next post explaining this. Also, if CSIS can conclude their work, why can't CBSA? This is because CBSA has a different mandate, and they deal with different issues and things than CSIS.

 

[slpmaple]

Everything under the sun is a legitimate ground which is permissible by law.

wow that is very scary not knowing who's watching & when, but thanks for answering.

On a side note, I have requested an CBSA's atip, specifically asking for my immigration screening files and record of exit+entries, response was that they need extension of more than 30 days as stipulated in the act.

1. "which act"? and
2. why this unusual response?

I felt like they are deliberately delaying/withholding information. very frustrating.

 

[legalfalcon]

wow that is very scary not knowing who's watching & when, but thanks for answering.

On a side note, I have requested an CBSA's GCMS, specifically asking for my immigration screening files and record of exit+entries, response was that they need extension of more than 30 days as stipulated in the act.

1. "which act"? and
2. why this unusual response?

I felt like they are deliberately delaying/withholding information. very frustrating.

If you ordered it on your own, i.e. if you have a legal status in Canada, then it is the Privacy Act, if you ordered it through someone, then it is the Access to Information Act.

It is not unusual, as all federal agencies have the right o seek extension if they are unable to provide the information within the stipulated 30 day statutory timeframe. However, don't be surprised that you just get your entry and exit dates from them. CBSA requires a very specific entry to release the info and many applicants miss that, and CBSA only releases the entry and exit entries.

Further, in some cases extensions of 60 and 90 days is not unusual.

 

[traveler982]

Just because you work for the government does not mean that you will be under SS. The MyCIC status is not an accurate way of knowing which stage your application is at. Instead see if you have passed eligibility.

To read more on the different stages of an application see - https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/

Please do not get swayed by incorrect advice. Until the eligibility is passed, the BGC does not start and you will not be under SS.

I did read the blog you provided, and I am confused now. Eligibility comes before criminality, which in my case is passed.

You say that: "The MyCIC status is not an accurate way of knowing which stage your application is at." and in the next quote: "Until the eligibility is passed, the BGC does not start and you will not be under SS".
Does this means that eventhough almost 8 moths has passed since AOR, my application could be delayed even more if it goes under SS after my eligibility passes.

And now should I order new set of notes, or should I wait for my MyCIC status BG to go in progress?

 

[SGtoCAD]

The MyCIC status is not an accurate indicator. If your page 2 of GCMS notes the information is retracted, and has s15/16 or 21/22 on the top right corner, then the BGC has started.

@SGtoCAD do not follow incorrect advise and stress yourself.

Not everyone goes under SS. Only a very few applicants have SS, and you may not be the one. Don't let others create panic just because their application was under SS, does not mean yours will be too. There are many factors which lead to an application being picked for SS.

thank you for the advice!

 

[legalfalcon]

I did read the blog you provided, and I am confused now. Eligibility comes before criminality, which in my case is passed.

You say that: "The MyCIC status is not an accurate way of knowing which stage your application is at." and in the next quote: "Until the eligibility is passed, the BGC does not start and you will not be under SS".
Does this means that eventhough almost 8 moths has passed since AOR, my application could be delayed even more if it goes under SS after my eligibility passes.

And now should I order new set of notes, or should I wait for my MyCIC status BG to go in progress?

The post only lists the stages, not in the order.

The order is:

R10
Criminality
Medicals
Eligibility
BGC

The application goes in SS only when the BGC starts. If you see your notes, and on page 2 if the security shows as blank, that is an indication that it has started. Only if your application goes under SS, will it be delayed. Otherwise not.

 

[JackT]

Dear friends
It's been 8 months since I got aor.
I ordered 2 gcms notes and my eligibility is still recommended pass by case analyst. There is nothing mention about officer comment.
My background check is NA since last 6 months. I don't know why it's taking too long to pass my eligibility?
Does anybody have background status NA for more than 6 months ???

 

[strength2]

So you're saying all apps which were sent back to cbsa were red flagged? Nah.. then someone is not doing their job and these people with sec concerns are still in the country. Such a delayed in taking an action against them is highly questionable.
I agree that a red flag can be the reason the application sent to cbsa and then csis. But if csis report says the individual is a sec concern then they cannot wait so long to take an action. I think cbsa just has so much backlog that cannot finalize the admissibility reports and send it back to ircc. Remember, each refugee staying one more day in the country is a liability and cost to the government. Pr applicati on delays are not that big of deal comparing to the asylum seekers who crossed the border illegally and are coating tax payers.

It may be a red flag or anything they have to send almost 20% for security screening to assure Canadian's security and also to justify $44 million budget for CBSA, etc. As for timing they don't care. There were people living in Calgary and in security screening for 8 years
CBSA conversation in the parliament between Darshan and Tina

https://openparliament.ca/committees/public-safety/42-1/69/?page=4

 

[SFKAS]

It may be a red flag or anything they have to send almost 20% for security screening to assure Canadian's security and also to justify $44 million budget for CBSA, etc. As for timing they don't care. There were people living in Calgary and in security screening for 8 years
CBSA conversation in the parliament between Darshan and Tina

https://openparliament.ca/committees/public-safety/42-1/69/?page=4

Your info may be true but you really paint a scary picture with the facts you present

Please don't do so. Its already hard enough

Those are unique cases and also pre express entry era

 

[strength2]

Your info may be true but you really paint a scary picture with the facts you present

Please don't do so. Its already hard enough

Those are unique cases and also pre express entry era

the case existed as of June 2017. Unfortunately the MP who advocated this in the parliament is now under harassment allegation and on medical leave since Aug. But he is a MP of one of the constituents who is waiting for outland spouse sponsorship for 30 months now and he has constituent who are at ss for 8 years. MP doesn't lie.

Most people are waiting for 2 years. But I wanted to emphasis that CBSA, etc don't care if a person under security screening lives in Canada even up to 8 years.

 

[SFKAS]

the case existed as of June 2017. Unfortunately the MP who advocated this in the parliament is now under harassment allegation and on medical leave since Aug. But he is a MP of one of the constituents who is waiting for outland spouse sponsorship for 30 months now and he has constituent who are at ss for 8 years. MP doesn't lie.

Most people are waiting for 2 years. But I wanted to emphasis that CBSA, etc don't care if a person under security screening lives in Canada even up to 8 years.

I would like to believe that express entry is different from all other streams.

And again there are always one off situations

Lets just hope it all pans out fine

 

[A.Syed1]

So from what I gather is that CBSA is the problematic institution. Is there nothing we can do to force them to do THEIR jobs in a timely manner. It shouldn't take them a freaking year to complete security assessment especially after CSIS has completed its processing.


And it seems kinda counter-productive to me for them to be taking this long for security processing while the person continues to reside in Canada! If someone is truly a threat to Canada shouldn't they be moving as fast as possible to remove him/her?

 

[teegz]

The post only lists the stages, not in the order.

The order is:

R10
Criminality
Medicals
Eligibility
BGC

The application goes in SS only when the BGC starts. If you see your notes, and on page 2 if the security shows as blank, that is an indication that it has started. Only if your application goes under SS, will it be delayed. Otherwise not.

In my notes from august I had eligibility, criminal and medicals passed. Security not started. Been NA for a while now... AOR Feb 25th FSW-O.
Do you think I’m under SS? Even with criminality passed?

 

[systems.engineer]

Your info may be true but you really paint a scary picture with the facts you present

Please don't do so. Its already hard enough

Those are unique cases and also pre express entry era

This is not the norm, rather an exception. Also, there is a big difference between family sponsorship and economic immigration. This thread is for express entry and not family sponsorship.

Please do not be scared of these exceptions, especially these cases and then the rumours that the MP is being harassed and on medical lave. This is Canada, and the country is run by rule of law. Canada is not a banana republic.

Every case is different and you cannot compare apples to oranges.

Under economic immigration, an applicant can be inadmissible for many reasons. However, in family sponsorship, except criminality and security, there is nothing that can bar the person being sponsored, not even medical.

@A.Syed1 & @slpmaple also remember, that once an applicant is granted the PR status, the applicant is eligible for most government jobs, provincially and federally, except those that require citizenship and a high level government clearance. As regards the blunders done by CSIS, see the page 1 of this thread, legalfalcon has listed many by CSIS.

Most of the cases cited are family sponsorship, which have a different set of laws under IRPA. If you see the SS WhatsApp group, people are getting their applications approved. They are delayed, but it is happening. I was under SS, and my application got approved. I discovered this forum at a later date. My application was approved within 2 years AoR September 2015 - PP July 2017. I am from Bangladesh, studied in Canada, and went back and applied from home country. The only thing I could discover, thanks to @legalfalcon was that my previous employer in UAE was under investigation for white collar crime. The company indulged in some shady deals. But I was no where involved and any of the, and that is why my name came up. This was confirmed when I requested all data in my name available with CSIS after landing in Canada a few months ago. This was a hunch based on my GCMS notes, CBSA notes which were evaluated by @legalfalcon and our telephonic conversations.

So don't give up hope and don't get swayed by rumours of MPs being harassed. And then the statement, "MP doesn't lie" - last I remember, no one trusted politicians, no matter which country they are from.

Have faith in the process, and don't give up. I remember my life bing almost uncertain, and I just wanted IRCC to refuse my application.

Also, if you are not under SS, don't panic. Only a very selected few cases go to SS, and your case may not even be one. As regards the processing times, the 6 months processing time starts from the day R10 is passed. Di you know that?

Applications are assessed for completeness up front. An application found to be incomplete should be rejected as per section 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations, and all fees associated with the application should be refunded to the applicant.

The Express Entry six-month processing standard begins when an application is assessed as complete and is promoted in the Global Case Management System (GCMS). It ends when Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) makes a final decision on the application.

see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

Even I was not aware of this, until I read one of the posts by LegalFalcon with the link. So its not the AoR, rather the R10 date which matters. If you have exceeded over 6 months, be patient, and don't panic.

For SS, check your GCMS notes.

 

[systems.engineer]

In my notes from august I had eligibility, criminal and medicals passed. Security not started. Been NA for a while now... AOR Feb 25th FSW-O.
Do you think I’m under SS? Even with criminality passed?

If your BGC has not started, most likely you are not under SS. Don't panic.