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Ray of Hope - 72nd Draw

jackdawn

Champion Member
Dec 24, 2016
1,295
920
Thanks for still remembering me @astralsource heartliest congrats to you as you have got your PPR and I hope that you will get along well in Canada and find success at the earliest.

As far as all the people are here take @astralsource as an example she was hopeless in all 2015-16 the score was not dropping below 450. Now she has got the PPR its just the matter of time score will soon touch early 400s once the new quota gets announced.
I can vouch for @fatani, he along with @astralsource @kryt0n and @Pawshi were all good support to all those who were losing hope. And the time spent on analysis of CRS, spread of pool and quota were all methodical.

Lets hope the score come down ASAP

Good luck all!
 

denyl182002

Star Member
Feb 7, 2011
116
68
Alberta
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
CIC NS
NOC Code......
1241
App. Filed.......
20-09-2017
AOR Received.
22-09-2017
Med's Done....
05-10-2017
So, let me understand this:
1. you got married last year (so you are married at least 9 months).
2. Instead of taking all documents for the spousal sponsorship (which by now would be already somewhere in the middle of the process) you decided to go for provincial nomination.
3. Because hey Manitoba paper based up to 16 months is much better then spousal 1 year. (not that you do not have to prove excessive medical inadmissibility in spousal and not that you do not have to prove your savings or language skills there)
4. You have taken place of somebody who might really need that PNP, but you do not want it anyway.
5. Because, hey EE is much faster than all of that and because there are absolutely no people waiting more than 6 month to get their nomination after AOR in EE (not like we do not have portion of people waiting 6, 9, 12 or even longer to get their COPR - longest one was up to 17 months).
6. And with this move you want to take yet again additional place from somebody else and take more time from the officer times, when they would have to check and cancel your paper based application and then your EE application again.
7. And you assume, that just because you will not use spousal stream, nobody will ever ask you for any proof of relationship. (yes they can do that and in several cases, they did do that to EE applicants as well).
8. So at the end of the day you will not even be faster than if you went for your spousal sponsorship on the spot or if you waited for that paper based application to be finished. (as they have much less paper based applications now. they are supposed to be a bit faster there).
Did I miss something out?
This whole story is the same of a car trying to change lanes constantly in the heavy traffic jam and only arriving like minutes before the others
Hi Vensak,

I am taking that you are trying to understand my decisions rather not critizing me.

I will explain to you why I did not take the spousal stream.

Yes, I got married in December. I received my Alberta nomination even before I got married that's why I went on to submit my PNP application early Jan 2017 since I have all my documents ready for submission (ielts, transcript, diploma, work references) in hoping by now atleast I received a medical request already. But no luck yet.

On the other hand, I got so skeptical of applying spousal sponsorship. Two of my friends' spousal sponsorship applications are still in process which they have submitted their application in mid 2015. Even till now they have not received their PRs yet. That's more than 2 years still in process. I am not saying that my fate will be the same as them, I'd rather not go thru that nigtmare. I also read a lot of spousal sponsorship experiences here in this forum. I love how people are so open with their expereinces. I am learning lots of things. However, this is not the main reason why I'd rather go through the PNP or EE route.

On the first place, I did not come to Canada to get married and get my husband to sponsor me and my son. It was not part of my plan, meeting my husband just happened along they way. I was an international student for 4 years since 2012, I paid my tuition fee on my own while supporting my son alone, worked hard to earn my bachelors degree, received my PGWP then my nomination. I couldn't be prouder of myself. It is my personal choice not to be sponsored by my husband, the reason behind this is I want to prove to my family, my husband's family and especially my son, that I can get my PR through my own hard work. Some call it pride, I call it honor. As i said on my previous post, "I prefer it to do it on my own." I was surprised you had to list your points why I should have taken the spousal stream. My dad divorced my mom when she was 52. My mom totally agrees on my decision on getting my PR on my own; she taught me how to be independent. I hope you can read between the lines and try to understand this. Don't get me wrong, I love my husband and I value our relationship. He admires my perseverance (meaning: steadfastness in doing something despite difficulty or delay in achieving success.)

I believe that I am not the only person in this forum who has a PNP application then submitted an EE profile after they have completed their one year canadian experience. Lots of older members here suggested some PNP applicants to do the same.

The average of EE applications getting approved within 6 months is still higher than the application getting approved longer than 6 months. What you said about the story of the car doesnt make any sense to me. We are talking about months and years here, not just minutes. If you could save 6 months versus waiting 9 months or more, wouldn't you take it? It is stupid not too. People are so anxious of waiting to receive their ITAs in a matter of two or three weeks. Why after receiving ITAs people are so frazzled about waiting for their PRs in hoping they can get the precious PPR email before 6 months? I am the same, I would like to get my PR as soon as possible (without the help of my husband). Easy to understand. You too got your PR thru EE in less than 6 months, didnt you? Maybe it will happen to me too. It is the risk I am willing to take rather than sitting and waiting for my PNP application to be approved. I saw lots of people here in these forums whose permits got expired before receiving their PRs. Who said that I dont want my nomination? I love that I was nominated by my province, it gave me options.

I am not competing with anyone here. I am not taking any place from anybody. I am not better than anyone else. Everyone here are equal. We all have the right to immigrate and choose what stream we would like to take. I used to have EE points of 362 when EE started. I studied very hard to get my Canadian degree, I studied hard for my IELTS and I am working hard to stay in my current company to reached my 472 points. Im pretty sure everyone is also doing the same things to make their CRS points higher. Everybody is spending their hard earned money just to get where they want to be. The quickier, the better.

We all know that immigration rules in Canada are not that stable, it can change in a matter of few months. So we all have to try to do everything to get our PR as quickly as possible.

I've been a member of this forum since 2011. I am here to seek helpful information and suggestions from people who has the same goals as mine, which is to obtain a PR, not to explain my story, nor criticize/judge people. I also answered/helped fellow forum members here in the past regarding study permit, through my own experience without questioning about their decisions. So lets just be positive and try to help each other rather than being negative and judging each other. This forum is a learning ground for me. I appreciate lots of helpful people here. I know that you answered lots of questions in this forum as well, Im glad you are using your time productively. Let this serve an experience for you too. If you don't have any helpful/opinions to say, be respectful of others and just let it go.

Thank you. Again, to all my fellow fourm members who are seeking a good life in Canada, goodluck to all of us. This is such a good country to live in. Equality, free-education for your kids, security, lots of opportunity for improvements, better healthcare, what else can you ask for. I will be completing my 5 yr mark here next week and I never regretted my decision to move in Canada. I wish you all the best.
 

moferanmi

Full Member
Sep 21, 2011
28
0
Are you sure there isn't a factor you are overlooking, like IELTS plus education?
Thanks!
I have L8.5 R9 S8.5 W7
And MSc

I think the factors the consider are foreign work experience and IELTS
1year work experience + CLB7 =13points
1year work experience + CLB9=25 points
I have 9 months work experience +CLB9 and I got 25 points. I dont know if this is due to month calculation in the profile. Do i deserve this point? That is my concern.
 

Mithu3

Star Member
Aug 7, 2015
166
301
Hi Vensak,

I am taking that you are trying to understand my decisions rather not critizing me.

I will explain to you why I did not take the spousal stream.

Yes, I got married in December. I received my Alberta nomination even before I got married that's why I went on to submit my PNP application early Jan 2017 since I have all my documents ready for submission (ielts, transcript, diploma, work references) in hoping by now atleast I received a medical request already. But no luck yet.

On the other hand, I got so skeptical of applying spousal sponsorship. Two of my friends' spousal sponsorship applications are still in process which they have submitted their application in mid 2015. Even till now they have not received their PRs yet. That's more than 2 years still in process. I am not saying that my fate will be the same as them, I'd rather not go thru that nigtmare. I also read a lot of spousal sponsorship experiences here in this forum. I love how people are so open with their expereinces. I am learning lots of things. However, this is not the main reason why I'd rather go through the PNP or EE route.

On the first place, I did not come to Canada to get married and get my husband to sponsor me and my son. It was not part of my plan, meeting my husband just happened along they way. I was an international student for 4 years since 2012, I paid my tuition fee on my own while supporting my son alone, worked hard to earn my bachelors degree, received my PGWP then my nomination. I couldn't be prouder of myself. It is my personal choice not to be sponsored by my husband, the reason behind this is I want to prove to my family, my husband's family and especially my son, that I can get my PR through my own hard work. Some call it pride, I call it honor. As i said on my previous post, "I prefer it to do it on my own." I was surprised you had to list your points why I should have taken the spousal stream. My dad divorced my mom when she was 52. My mom totally agrees on my decision on getting my PR on my own; she taught me how to be independent. I hope you can read between the lines and try to understand this. Don't get me wrong, I love my husband and I value our relationship. He admires my perseverance (meaning: steadfastness in doing something despite difficulty or delay in achieving success.)

I believe that I am not the only person in this forum who has a PNP application then submitted an EE profile after they have completed their one year canadian experience. Lots of older members here suggested some PNP applicants to do the same.

The average of EE applications getting approved within 6 months is still higher than the application getting approved longer than 6 months. What you said about the story of the car doesnt make any sense to me. We are talking about months and years here, not just minutes. If you could save 6 months versus waiting 9 months or more, wouldn't you take it? It is stupid not too. People are so anxious of waiting to receive their ITAs in a matter of two or three weeks. Why after receiving ITAs people are so frazzled about waiting for their PRs in hoping they can get the precious PPR email before 6 months? I am the same, I would like to get my PR as soon as possible (without the help of my husband). Easy to understand. You too got your PR thru EE in less than 6 months, didnt you? Maybe it will happen to me too. It is the risk I am willing to take rather than sitting and waiting for my PNP application to be approved. I saw lots of people here in these forums whose permits got expired before receiving their PRs. Who said that I dont want my nomination? I love that I was nominated by my province, it gave me options.

I am not competing with anyone here. I am not taking any place from anybody. I am not better than anyone else. Everyone here are equal. We all have the right to immigrate and choose what stream we would like to take. I used to have EE points of 362 when EE started. I studied very hard to get my Canadian degree, I studied hard for my IELTS and I am working hard to stay in my current company to reached my 472 points. Im pretty sure everyone is also doing the same things to make their CRS points higher. Everybody is spending their hard earned money just to get where they want to be. The quickier, the better.

We all know that immigration rules in Canada are not that stable, it can change in a matter of few months. So we all have to try to do everything to get our PR as quickly as possible.

I've been a member of this forum since 2011. I am here to seek helpful information and suggestions from people who has the same goals as mine, which is to obtain a PR, not to explain my story, nor criticize/judge people. I also answered/helped fellow forum members here in the past regarding study permit, through my own experience without questioning about their decisions. So lets just be positive and try to help each other rather than being negative and judging each other. This forum is a learning ground for me. I appreciate lots of helpful people here. I know that you answered lots of questions in this forum as well, Im glad you are using your time productively. Let this serve an experience for you too. If you don't have any helpful/opinions to say, be respectful of others and just let it go.

Thank you. Again, to all my fellow fourm members who are seeking a good life in Canada, goodluck to all of us. This is such a good country to live in. Equality, free-education for your kids, security, lots of opportunity for improvements, better healthcare, what else can you ask for. I will be completing my 5 yr mark here next week and I never regretted my decision to move in Canada. I wish you all the best.
Very well said...
 

tjsecondtry

Hero Member
May 11, 2017
798
1,749
Thanks!
I have L8.5 R9 S8.5 W7
And MSc

I think the factors the consider are foreign work experience and IELTS
1year work experience + CLB7 =13points
1year work experience + CLB9=25 points
I have 9 months work experience +CLB9 and I got 25 points. I dont know if this is due to month calculation in the profile. Do i deserve this point? That is my concern.
There are also points for education plus CLB 9. I got those.

Education

With good official language proficiency (Canadian Language Benchmark Level [CLB] 7 or higher) and a post-secondary degree
Points for CLB 7 or more on all first official language abilities, with one or more under CLB 9
(Maximum 25 points)
Points for CLB 9 or more on all four first official language abilities
(Maximum 50 points)

Secondary school (high school) credential or less 0 0
Post-secondary program credential of one year or longer 13 25
Two or more post-secondary program credentials AND at least one of these credentials was issued on completion of a post-secondary program of three years or longer 25 50
 

Wacky1.nash

Hero Member
Jul 18, 2017
613
683
Singapore
Hi Vensak,

I am taking that you are trying to understand my decisions rather not critizing me.

I will explain to you why I did not take the spousal stream.

Yes, I got married in December. I received my Alberta nomination even before I got married that's why I went on to submit my PNP application early Jan 2017 since I have all my documents ready for submission (ielts, transcript, diploma, work references) in hoping by now atleast I received a medical request already. But no luck yet.

On the other hand, I got so skeptical of applying spousal sponsorship. Two of my friends' spousal sponsorship applications are still in process which they have submitted their application in mid 2015. Even till now they have not received their PRs yet. That's more than 2 years still in process. I am not saying that my fate will be the same as them, I'd rather not go thru that nigtmare. I also read a lot of spousal sponsorship experiences here in this forum. I love how people are so open with their expereinces. I am learning lots of things. However, this is not the main reason why I'd rather go through the PNP or EE route.

On the first place, I did not come to Canada to get married and get my husband to sponsor me and my son. It was not part of my plan, meeting my husband just happened along they way. I was an international student for 4 years since 2012, I paid my tuition fee on my own while supporting my son alone, worked hard to earn my bachelors degree, received my PGWP then my nomination. I couldn't be prouder of myself. It is my personal choice not to be sponsored by my husband, the reason behind this is I want to prove to my family, my husband's family and especially my son, that I can get my PR through my own hard work. Some call it pride, I call it honor. As i said on my previous post, "I prefer it to do it on my own." I was surprised you had to list your points why I should have taken the spousal stream. My dad divorced my mom when she was 52. My mom totally agrees on my decision on getting my PR on my own; she taught me how to be independent. I hope you can read between the lines and try to understand this. Don't get me wrong, I love my husband and I value our relationship. He admires my perseverance (meaning: steadfastness in doing something despite difficulty or delay in achieving success.)

I believe that I am not the only person in this forum who has a PNP application then submitted an EE profile after they have completed their one year canadian experience. Lots of older members here suggested some PNP applicants to do the same.

The average of EE applications getting approved within 6 months is still higher than the application getting approved longer than 6 months. What you said about the story of the car doesnt make any sense to me. We are talking about months and years here, not just minutes. If you could save 6 months versus waiting 9 months or more, wouldn't you take it? It is stupid not too. People are so anxious of waiting to receive their ITAs in a matter of two or three weeks. Why after receiving ITAs people are so frazzled about waiting for their PRs in hoping they can get the precious PPR email before 6 months? I am the same, I would like to get my PR as soon as possible (without the help of my husband). Easy to understand. You too got your PR thru EE in less than 6 months, didnt you? Maybe it will happen to me too. It is the risk I am willing to take rather than sitting and waiting for my PNP application to be approved. I saw lots of people here in these forums whose permits got expired before receiving their PRs. Who said that I dont want my nomination? I love that I was nominated by my province, it gave me options.

I am not competing with anyone here. I am not taking any place from anybody. I am not better than anyone else. Everyone here are equal. We all have the right to immigrate and choose what stream we would like to take. I used to have EE points of 362 when EE started. I studied very hard to get my Canadian degree, I studied hard for my IELTS and I am working hard to stay in my current company to reached my 472 points. Im pretty sure everyone is also doing the same things to make their CRS points higher. Everybody is spending their hard earned money just to get where they want to be. The quickier, the better.

We all know that immigration rules in Canada are not that stable, it can change in a matter of few months. So we all have to try to do everything to get our PR as quickly as possible.

I've been a member of this forum since 2011. I am here to seek helpful information and suggestions from people who has the same goals as mine, which is to obtain a PR, not to explain my story, nor criticize/judge people. I also answered/helped fellow forum members here in the past regarding study permit, through my own experience without questioning about their decisions. So lets just be positive and try to help each other rather than being negative and judging each other. This forum is a learning ground for me. I appreciate lots of helpful people here. I know that you answered lots of questions in this forum as well, Im glad you are using your time productively. Let this serve an experience for you too. If you don't have any helpful/opinions to say, be respectful of others and just let it go.

Thank you. Again, to all my fellow fourm members who are seeking a good life in Canada, goodluck to all of us. This is such a good country to live in. Equality, free-education for your kids, security, lots of opportunity for improvements, better healthcare, what else can you ask for. I will be completing my 5 yr mark here next week and I never regretted my decision to move in Canada. I wish you all the best.
Wow! I can't express how much I admire your drive, honesty, and righteousness! You go, girl!
 

Wacky1.nash

Hero Member
Jul 18, 2017
613
683
Singapore
Was your family flooded? Our family in Louisiana is ok. Fortunately they are not on the coast.

I'm further inland, in Pennsylvania, so we generally are spared the worst of most storms. It's literally the best part of living here, lol.
My family was right in the heart of it in Houston. They were stuck, having missed the window to evacuate, and had a harrowing couple of days, as they saw areas in their neighbourhood get evacuated, 2 storey homes go under water, dead bodies popping up everywhere, chemical plant explosions... They were very lucky though, their house didn't flood and are completely safe. Just hope the folks in Florida make it through Ok...

Glad you're safe too :)
 
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nt13

Hero Member
Sep 1, 2017
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Yes always remember to register first and then apply within 14 days. Register now with below link so you've username and ID ready.

https://www.appenrol.one-key.gov.on.ca/UserMgmtWebApp/registration.iaa

Moment they open, register for HCP Stream immediately. And if you have NOI or sure to get NOI then start preparing documents. All the best Buddies. Best wishes. :)
Karnesh/ all members:

Please help to understand this: Do we have to register beforehand or apply for HCP stream??? Without having NOI???

I am at CRS 400 now after I uploaded fresh IELTS score with CLB 10 last week. What could be my chances of receiving NOI?
Do I need to register now?

As per my understanding, don't we need to have NOI in our CIC account before we start registering or applying??

Please help, this is making me restless !!
 

tjsecondtry

Hero Member
May 11, 2017
798
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My family was right in the heart of it in Houston. They were stuck, having missed the window to evacuate, and had a harrowing couple of days, as they saw areas in their neighbourhood get evacuated, 2 storey homes go under water, dead bodies popping up everywhere, chemical plant explosions... They were very lucky though, their house didn't flood and are completely safe. Just hope the folks in Florida make it through Ok...

Glad you're safe too :)
OMG. What a harrowing experience. No news report has adequately conveyed that message.