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hhassa

Hero Member
Mar 19, 2013
415
15
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04-08-2011
Doc's Request.
N/A
AOR Received.
30-04-2012
File Transfer...
01-10-2011
Med's Request
21-11-2013
Med's Done....
21-11-2013
Interview........
2-12-2013-recieved rejection letter after 1 week. Won ADR on 24 July 2014
Passport Req..
Nov 18 2014
ajarupan said:
Thanks hhassa. Could you please help me with questions that they might ask. Thanks I appreciate your help. Only prove I shown sent to ADR that I am currently 6 months pregnant. Hopefully, this case will solve my problem. Would that be good for misinterpreted refusal?
Are you in Toronto? if you want you can call me. I cant help you with the question because I do not know the reason they rejected your case and your whole case. Congrates, great news not to mention but I am also pregnant 5 months and I am hopping my hubby can be hear before the delivery INSHALLAH. My dear I am sorry but this is not enough. I am pregnant but they still wanted to know everything everything and my visits passport stamps, tickets. I can make you a list but need to know what was the reason? Feel better everything is going to be okay.
 
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ajarupan

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Oct 26, 2013
313
8
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Colombo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19-08-2013
Doc's Request.
28-10-2013 - In Process
Nomination.....
04-01-2014 - Decision Made, rejected.
AOR Received.
Appealed - February 2014
IELTS Request
Appeal Accepted - March 3, 2014
File Transfer...
Blue Book Received - July 6, 2014
Med's Request
February, 2016
Med's Done....
February, 2016
Interview........
Full Hearing: August 19, 2015
Passport Req..
Waiting...in process
hhassa said:
Are you in Toronto? if you want you can call me. I cant help you with the question because I do not know the reason they rejected your case and your whole case. Congrates, great news not to mention but I am also pregnant 5 months and I am hopping my hubby can be hear before the delivery INSHALLAH. My dear I am sorry but this is not enough. I am pregnant but they still wanted to know everything everything and my visits passport stamps, tickets. I can make you a list but need to know what was the reason? Feel better everything is going to be okay.
Yes, I am in Toronto. They rejected my case because of misinterpretation. My husband forgot that he previously applied to Canada was refused back than during Tsunami. Plus he didn't mention certain things in the application how he applied previously. Our relationship they approved, but the Tsunami case refused. Sorry, personally I don't call anyone over the net.


I congratulate for your pregnancy. :D Happy for you. I already send my ticket and stamp, and doctors note to the Immigration. I hope these helps a lot. I am already feeling stressed and depressed.
 

hhassa

Hero Member
Mar 19, 2013
415
15
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04-08-2011
Doc's Request.
N/A
AOR Received.
30-04-2012
File Transfer...
01-10-2011
Med's Request
21-11-2013
Med's Done....
21-11-2013
Interview........
2-12-2013-recieved rejection letter after 1 week. Won ADR on 24 July 2014
Passport Req..
Nov 18 2014
ajarupan said:
Yes, I am in Toronto. They rejected my case because of misinterpretation. My husband forgot that he previously applied to Canada was refused back than during Tsunami. Plus he didn't mention certain things in the application how he applied previously. Our relationship they approved, but the Tsunami case refused. Sorry, personally I don't call anyone over the net.


I congratulate for your pregnancy. :D Happy for you. I already send my ticket and stamp, and doctors note to the Immigration. I hope these helps a lot. I am already feeling stressed and depressed.
That's all right I was just being nice if incase you felt more comfortable talking over the phone :)
I am afraid to say that since it was something that was falsely done on your husband's part they might do the full hearing since they would like to hear from him. They do not call spouse during ADR.
Did he not have an interview though? where they would ask all these clarifications or was your case got rejected even before? The only advise I have for you is be prepared for all the questions, just by having a baby or being pregnant will not satisfy them. I have read few cases where lady was pregnant and her full hearing was declined. You can go to canlli website to view such cases. I am not trying to scare you but you have to be prepared for any type of questions and of course everything that you have said above such as why did he not mention his previous applies etc. It is hard for me to believe that he forgot that he applied previously I don't think anyone forgets. May be a good idea would be to come clean and let them know the truth that may be he was afraid that it would effect this case. You know what I mean, they always appreciate the truth.
 

aroundwrd99

Hero Member
Jul 19, 2013
283
1
India
Category........
Visa Office......
Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
June 17, 2013
Med's Done....
Jan 2013
Passport Req..
Sept 2013
Hi,

Can anybody confirm me if we need to send any document or letter with ADR form?

I am sending

ADR form
Refusal letter only

I will be doing without lawyer this time.
 

Deluso

Newbie
Mar 24, 2014
4
0
Hi There,

I have a question: how many pay slips does the immigration requires for PR application? Is it true 2 years pay slips (48 copies)?

Thanks in advance.

Deluso
 

aroundwrd99

Hero Member
Jul 19, 2013
283
1
India
Category........
Visa Office......
Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
June 17, 2013
Med's Done....
Jan 2013
Passport Req..
Sept 2013
Guys,

can you confirm me if I need to fill this form for IAD.

http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/Eng/res/form/Documents/IadSai428_e.pdf
 

flutra

Star Member
Aug 5, 2014
63
0
Hi every one,
I am new here and I have some question for you? Can anyone please help me if you have the same experience with me?
I was denied and I need to appeal the how does it work because on the letter the rome visa send me they don't believe that the marriage is genuine but they did not send any other specific reasons why they don't believe.
So now we have to send them a request form to send us the reasons or what? My spouse is in canada and I live in Albania.
please can you let me know how long it take for the application to go in canada appeal from rome and how long it takes this whole process?
Thank you
Flutra
 

gsize

Hero Member
May 2, 2009
958
48
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
2009....denied Feb 2010.....appeal allowed (August 2012)..waiting for processing
Doc's Request.
04/04/2013
File Transfer...
30/01/2013
Med's Done....
04/2013 (second time)
Passport Req..
21/02, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
18/03/2014
LANDED..........
05/04/2014
it depends if you will get ADR or full hearing. It will also depend what City will it be heard. :D
 

flutra

Star Member
Aug 5, 2014
63
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My husband lives in toronto and I will suspend that it will take place there. What is ADR please?
What cana lawyer help me in order to process it faster? I appreciate your help?
 

Siva

Star Member
Oct 6, 2013
103
2
hhassa said:
Hi Dear,

I am sorry but I have no idea how do they handle financial refusal cases. But normally if this is something that you have rectified and is not an issue anymore and will send as an update in your supporting document, you could probably get an ADR. I personally don't feel that you should get a full hearing. Based on my research for over 2 years :eek: I have found that cases that have many major issues mostly goes to full hearing.
I would recommend try to send supporting docs ASAP however, one thing to know that they don't look at your supporting documents until it has been decided if you are getting ADR or full hearing. So don't rush but have everything at it best and send. I send everything before 20 days of my ADR date.
Also to know that sometimes they can raise points that may not have raised by the officer such as why did you not visit your husband recently or other way around. What I am trying to say here is that officer wrote in my husband's rejection letter 3 issues although during ADR they only talked about 1 of 3 things and but otherwise they asked everything like how many times I visited, dates I stayed, relationship with family etc. Let me know if you have any other question. Are you from Toronto?
Thanks for the response. Yes I am dealing with the Toronto office
 

ajarupan

Hero Member
Oct 26, 2013
313
8
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Colombo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19-08-2013
Doc's Request.
28-10-2013 - In Process
Nomination.....
04-01-2014 - Decision Made, rejected.
AOR Received.
Appealed - February 2014
IELTS Request
Appeal Accepted - March 3, 2014
File Transfer...
Blue Book Received - July 6, 2014
Med's Request
February, 2016
Med's Done....
February, 2016
Interview........
Full Hearing: August 19, 2015
Passport Req..
Waiting...in process
hhassa said:
That's all right I was just being nice if incase you felt more comfortable talking over the phone :)
I am afraid to say that since it was something that was falsely done on your husband's part they might do the full hearing since they would like to hear from him. They do not call spouse during ADR.
Did he not have an interview though? where they would ask all these clarifications or was your case got rejected even before? The only advise I have for you is be prepared for all the questions, just by having a baby or being pregnant will not satisfy them. I have read few cases where lady was pregnant and her full hearing was declined. You can go to canlli website to view such cases. I am not trying to scare you but you have to be prepared for any type of questions and of course everything that you have said above such as why did he not mention his previous applies etc. It is hard for me to believe that he forgot that he applied previously I don't think anyone forgets. May be a good idea would be to come clean and let them know the truth that may be he was afraid that it would effect this case. You know what I mean, they always appreciate the truth.
Thanks. May I know why your relationship they believe wasn't genius if you don't mind me telling? So strange Immigration officers. I don't know why they are wasting our time doubting on people who are truthful. I never lie, I am a honest person. :mad: :(
 

gsize

Hero Member
May 2, 2009
958
48
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
2009....denied Feb 2010.....appeal allowed (August 2012)..waiting for processing
Doc's Request.
04/04/2013
File Transfer...
30/01/2013
Med's Done....
04/2013 (second time)
Passport Req..
21/02, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
18/03/2014
LANDED..........
05/04/2014
flutra said:
My husband lives in toronto and I will suspend that it will take place there. What is ADR please?
What cana lawyer help me in order to process it faster? I appreciate your help?
ADR= alternative dispute resolution. Usually takes about 6 months. It is up to them to determine if you will get it or full hearing. Full hearing in Toronto will take about 2 years. Then it gets processed again---some in Ottawa and sometimes in original visa office. Your lawyer cannot speed up the process.



http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/Eng/ImmApp/Pages/IadSaiAdrMarGuideAppMarAdd.aspx
 

gsize

Hero Member
May 2, 2009
958
48
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
2009....denied Feb 2010.....appeal allowed (August 2012)..waiting for processing
Doc's Request.
04/04/2013
File Transfer...
30/01/2013
Med's Done....
04/2013 (second time)
Passport Req..
21/02, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
18/03/2014
LANDED..........
05/04/2014
ajarupan said:
Thanks. May I know why your relationship they believe wasn't genius if you don't mind me telling? So strange Immigration officers. I don't know why they are wasting our time doubting on people who are truthful. I never lie, I am a honest person. :mad: :(
because many people are NOT truthfull. It is because of them that some of us are paying the price :eek:
 

Talon59

Star Member
Feb 3, 2013
76
9
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-03-2013
Med's Request
30-06-2016
Med's Done....
22-03-2013
Interview........
18-11-2013
Passport Req..
11-01-17
Hello Received the immigration file of for my wife on Tuesday still reviewing it , it's much smaller than expected
Applied March 2013 - CIC Mississauga
Approved to sponsor May 2013 - Mississauga
PR interview for my wife was nov 2013 - Singapore
Got a decision Feb 28th ( so much for their 2-3 weeks from interview date) -Singapore
PR Denied
Application for Appeal filed March 10 2014
Received notice of appeal April 1 2014
Received certified copy of immigration record Aug 5 2014

I must say I'm impressed that these people (at least the interviewer my wife had) have the audacity to complain about immigrants English skills when they don't seem to have even high school level English.
Reading though the file I noticed that although we submitted about 50 pictures to our immigration "consultant" keeps referring to himself as a lawyer contrary to what IAD calls him. The file includes 5 pictures from our wedding, written statements from my wife and me in regards to the origination of our relationship, copies of my passport but not my wife's, copies of original and translated copies of marriage, name change documents and birth certificate for our daughter (my step daughter), copies of divorce paperwork from her first and 2nd husband, translation of our wedding invitation (no copy of original) copies of phone bills and joint credit card statements and 4 pages of 800 that we submitted..

I'm curious if anyone else has received less in their file than was submitted?

I had to reparse the interviewers notes as it was mostly unreadable, presented as a continuous run on sentence with no grammar or punctuation.

For some reason they lacked ability to read and have her ex husband listed as my friend in the notes.....I knew of him (not right away) never met him; clearly stated in letter that I didn't know him.
Lists that we "claim" to have a miscarried baby I know we submitted the medical record for the hospital visit translated in English.
2 TRV refusals- First time due to lack of supporting documents also that she was going to visit my sister as although I had sent my wife an invitation letter at the time one of her friends insisted that it not be sent and that she shouldn't be applying for TRV to see me, (also supported by the lug heads at immigration Canada as per I quote "when you apply it would be best for her to visit a family member of the same gender as it will be denied due to suspicion that she is coming to illegally stay in Canada if she lists you as the reason for her visit")
2nd TRV refusal we sent lots of supporting documents daughter in Thailand not joining on the trip land in Thailand family in Thailand money in Thailand, but as per the stupid pdf form not having an option for Fiancé only spouse or friend we opted to select friend as we weren't married yet. this is listed as an note with multiple !!!! as I was listed as a friend. For whatever reason we were unable to satisfy the VO no reason given just that we didn't satisfy her.

Onto the interview my wife requested an interpreter as she didn't want any confusion answering questions, this was taken as she can't speak English my wife is nervous speaking to new people in English.
Next concern was her previous marriage it was in for the most part a marriage of convenience for him more than her he was primarily looking for a housekeeper/caregiver he could marry so he could retire to Thailand, in exchange he took care of her and her family financially. She was unable to live under those conditions leading to divorce from him (we started seeing each other before the divorce)
Their hung up on her previous marriages 1st one I don't see as an issue was a shotgun wedding because she got pregnant -> Thai do have a habit of trying to save face , marriage ended because there was nothing in it for her. I understand their concern with the 2nd marriage but if she really wanted a sham marriage for convenience she would have stayed with him he made 10x what I do annually literally (near $400k a year)
The next item in (!!!!Sponsor is 5 years younger!!!!))) they did note that my wife brought some more pictures and several thousand pages of Skype/Tango conversations all in English. clearly her English skills are limited and it is impossibly for her and me to have any meaningful conversation limiting the credibility of a strong husband and wife relationship.
When asked my wife said she loved me and unlike her other husbands I help her with everything cooking cleaning listening to her and her family likes me a lot despite the fact that I'm a poor working shlub when asked about her first husband he was a bum who wouldn't work who didn't like her family, her second husband treated her like a maid and never listened to her or helped her (other than financially)

Interviewer notes : it is Clearly an attempt to enter into a marriage of convenience strictly to enter Canada as there are pre-existing pulls for her to do this.

To me it seems that the interviewer had already decided before my wife got there to reject the application.

If there is some feedback I'd love to hear some suggestions perhaps from people who have gone though a similar situation.
I have yet to receive a date to see ADR or Court.

Documents I'm rounding up right now
English assessment for my wife -> trying to find out who would be acceptable to handle this
statements of our joint savings account in Thailand
letters from family and friends
More photo's
copies of Skype and tango conversations,
Paypal money transfers
All tickets and receipts originating around our relationship

is there anything else anyone could suggest?
I'd ask my consultant but even though he sent a copy of his intent to IAD to consult at no charge he just emailed me telling me he wants 2500 in 2 payments for consultation :mad: