Yes, I'd keep that 'option' only for emergencies. (To be clear)
Lost my PR card, but it was found
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I agree with armoured - won't hurt to ask, low confidence that it'd change anything. In fact, since your wife and daughter have or can get TRVs to visit you, I think that makes the case slightly weaker overall (as compared to someone who had no other options to meet with family) though I may be overthinking it.
Okay I want to understand if by my PR-Card expiry(April 2028) I am only 5 days short of 730-day during intial 5 years. Is it wise to take job in detroit and travel every thrice a week windsor-detroit? or would only 5 days can cause an issue?
Don't understand your question. Bottom line, you're going to have to keep track and do the arithmetic yourself.
Keep in mind that any part-day you spend in Canada counts as a day in Canada, eg leave Monday morning, come back Tuesday evening, zero 'days outside Canada.'
Whether that works for you to work abroad - up to you; plan for contingencies. There are people who commute back and forth every day, but 'stuff happens.'
I'd just note, keep VERY good records and evidence - the CBSA records of entries and exits are not always perfect.
This is really helpful, even if you leave at 7am in the morning and get back 10pm? still counts zero days outside. Also how do you keep Very Good record?? do they stamp passport everytime?that would be alot of stamps??
My question was - the RO requires not more thn 1095 days outside but I have 1118 days outside already23 days more thnRO. but because my PR crd expiry is 19 days after initial 5-year period it comes to be 5 days. Would i still be questioned or are they lenient in such cases?
If it's only five days - I'd prefer to stay at home (in Canada). This sort of daily commute is sometimes hard even for folks who fully meet RO, see https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/pr-living-in-us-h1b-–-issues-with-us-plates-and-residency-scrutiny-at-border.878840/
Technically you CAN be reported even if only 5 days short. And getting that job means you'd be traveling the border every workday - and each crossing is a potential chance to get reported. So if a border official feels like being particularly strict or something... basically you might be pushing your luck here with this scenario. Stay in Canada.
From past observations on the forum, they usually are lenient when the days is that low (19 is what you'll be short if you crossed today but that's still low) - but it's not guaranteed. Also, leniency is more likely on the first crossing back, but the more often you do that (crossing the border), the greater the risk.
I've never had my passport stamped, they just scan the PR card. When you become a PR and get your first PR card they give you a little paper booklet. I started by writing every trip, each time I started one and each time I ended one... I found that cumbersome so now I take notes on my phone instead.
You can order a copy of your US-Canada crossings from CBP (on the US side) and CBSA (on the Canada side) though if you need help remembering past crossings.
Yep. Actually, if you leave at 7am in the morning and get back the next day at 10pm it's still zero days outside - the first day you are in Canada for 7 hours, midnight to 7 am, so counts as one day in Canada. The second day you are in Canada from 10pm-midnight, so also counts as one day in Canada (but you still have to record and report the trip when applying for citizenship! even though it's zero days outside of Canada)
You keep your own records.
The date on the card is irrelevant. It is just the date of expry of the card.
In my opinion, crossing that often when you are ALREADY out of compliance is risky and possibly not viable. What will you do if (when?) they warn you?
As noted, they may be more likely to be lenient when someone has a card that is still valid. But you cannot rely upon leniency to always work, and hence it works best when you interact least with border personnel. Doing so 2-3 times a week, for months and months? Different story entirely.
Repeat: this is only my opinion. It's up to you to decide whether you wish to risk it.
Unfortunately, I got a response as below -
"
We have received your request for the urgent processing of your permanent resident card (PR card). However, we regret to inform you that we are unable to proceed urgently because, as you are travelling in less than 3 weeks, your application does not qualify for urgent processing.
We have a way to accommodate you if you are (or you will be) outside Canada without a valid PR card,and need to return to Canada on a commercial vehicle (e.g., plane, train, boat or bus).
You simply need to obtain a permanent resident travel document (PRTD) to travel back to Canada following the steps below."
@armoured @abff08f4813c
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In other words, IRCC is asking you to take the risky method.
Unless the steps cover how to request and receive PRTD while still safely inside of Canada, I'd pass. Getting family to visit you on their TRVs is still the safest way forward at this point.
@armoured @abff08f4813c @Ponga
In a new situation.
Yesterday , my office returned my PR card saying the someone slided it under the Door. They found it when the Door was opened. Now i called IRCC and they say my card is already in final stage and i informed them about my found card. They said i can return this old card to Sydney office with an explanation letter.
In a new situation.
Yesterday , my office returned my PR card saying the someone slided it under the Door. They found it when the Door was opened. Now i called IRCC and they say my card is already in final stage and i informed them about my found card. They said i can return this old card to Sydney office with an explanation letter.
The problem is, that I assume they cancel through the system any cards that are reported lost. As in, if you attempt to use it to check-in or board the plane to return to Canada, there is a strong likelihood CBSA/Min of Transport (whoever does this stuff, CBSA I think) will send a message to the airline saying PR card not good (or whatever their term is). So this is why they're basically saying send it back to them. I don't know if sending it back means they'll process the replacement more quickly.
You can try to check with IRCC or CBSA - CBSA may know whether it's been cancelled in the system, for example - but I don't know if there's any way to ask them to 'uncancel' it. Or you could ask, no idea whether that would ahve a chance of working.
[Warning, I haven't checked through the whole thread for details, going by memory]
Alas, I am fairly certain that they won't do this.
Yeah. I did want to bring up the ferry at St Pierre again - but same issue there, they're connected to whatever system is used for checking ETAs now and would be able to confirm that the PR card is no longer valid, same as an airline.
Can or must? Not sure I see the point in returning - unless armoured's guess is right, it won't help you at all. Likewise, having your card in the "final stage" is kinda meaningless if that stage is going to last for another dozen months or so...
I'm not sure why IRCC gives us so much trouble over this. When my driver's license expired, I was able to visit Service Ontario and walk out with a paper driver's license that, when paired with a valid photo ID (like my passport) was valid for driving. Being able to do the same at a Service Canada for a PR card seems like it'd be a simple thing...