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[PRANIT01]

You're forgetting the 1-2 year working holiday programs that you can take advantage of as a Canadian passport holder. Eligibility for most is till the age of 35 which is more than most countries:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_holiday_visa

And getting work visas and residence visas in other countries become a mere formality. I've seen the difference in treatment my cousins got at immigration when they acquired their British passport.

For Indian citizens there are additional advantages - most FEMA/FERA laws don't apply to PIOs/OCIs and it's easier to do business in dollars even if you go back to India. It'll be extremely easy to get admission to IITs, IIMs, and NITs as a foreign citizen, for you and your children.

What you said is a great point that 2yr prog.
But regarding the last point I am not sure whether that helps because what you said is right you will easily get in iims and nits but this unis are not in top 100 unis in qs rankings, if you are a Canadian citizen you have colleges in top 100 rankings like McGill,uni of alberta, UT,UBC so it just doesn't make sense ,if your kids are okay to move to us(I assume they are not born in india) sky is their limit.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

You're forgetting the 1-2 year working holiday programs that you can take advantage of as a Canadian passport holder. Eligibility for most is till the age of 35 which is more than most countries:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_holiday_visa

And getting work visas and residence visas in other countries become a mere formality. I've seen the difference in treatment my cousins got at immigration when they acquired their British passport.

For Indian citizens there are additional advantages - most FEMA/FERA laws don't apply to PIOs/OCIs and it's easier to do business in dollars even if you go back to India. It'll be extremely easy to get admission to IITs, IIMs, and NITs as a foreign citizen, for you and your children.

Typical Desi comment
once my child has canadian citizenship, he will have freedom to make his own choices in life with freedom and security
my child will have higher chance to go to IIT and NIT

 

[Deleted member 1006777]

Typical Desi comment
once my child has canadian citizenship, he will have freedom to make his own choices in life with freedom and security
my child will have higher chance to go to IIT and NIT

Hahahahah this is hilarious. Exactly why I think immigration for economic means is a failed idea. Imagine having a kid grow up in Canada/US and then having them go to college in India lol

 

[PRANIT01]

Typical Desi comment
once my child has canadian citizenship, he will have freedom to make his own choices in life with freedom and security
my child will have higher chance to go to IIT and NIT

For a Turkish you have a pretty much good knowledge about indians lol

 

[ImpatientAlligator]

And getting work visas and residence visas in other countries become a mere formality. I've seen the difference in treatment my cousins got at immigration when they acquired their British passport.

Work/residence visas would be the same difficulty as with an Indian passport unless the countries have some special agreement like TN or E3. Only visitor visas get easier or become unnecessary in most cases.

For Indian citizens there are additional advantages - most FEMA/FERA laws don't apply to PIOs/OCIs and it's easier to do business in dollars even if you go back to India. It'll be extremely easy to get admission to IITs, IIMs, and NITs as a foreign citizen, for you and your children.

None of these institutions have NRI/OCI quotas. They'd have to go through the same exams and processes as everyone else. Good luck having your first world kid compete against someone cramming in Kota for 4 years. Edit: looks like NITs now have a foreign resident quota.

 

[SatNight]

About French (my wife's take, since she is the one who did the test):

I agree that B2 is not being proficient in language. Proof? I got B2 (even one higher score) and I am not comfortable speaking French at all. I am only comfortable reading. It might be different for everyone, but French is a difficult language for me.

Which is the point for people who consider taking a French test: it's a difficult language. A 50 point reward might be a good motivation (it was for me! We jumped from 418 to 483 points). But reaching B2 is not easy, especially if you are not good in languages. Or if you simply find French difficult.

The point is: B2 is not fluency, but it IS a huge achievement that is not easy for many people. It's not a joke. It is not something you can achieve in a month or two. If you push hard, I'd say a month or two can get you to A1-A2 level, but that doesn't bring points. 3-4 months of hard work might get you to B1. That's the level where you get 4 points maximum. Everyone should see if it's useful for them, but it's not something you can do casually.

So no, B2 is not being fluent but you have to study a lot and it's not easy. Even B1 requires an effort, and to be honest, too much of an effort for only 4 points.

True, I might just be one of the people who find French extra hard. Maybe it is easier for someone else. But not something one can do casually, imo.

 

[DesiPikachu]

Typical Desi comment
once my child has canadian citizenship, he will have freedom to make his own choices in life with freedom and security
my child will have higher chance to go to IIT and NIT

It's about increasing options in life because you never know what the future holds. It's a fact that a Canadian passport gives you more options in life, even if you want to live in India. I'd rather my kids go to IITs if they can't qualify for UWaterloo or Toronto. McGill might be higher in the rankings but look at the actualy post-graduation salary data. Only Ivy League, Stanford, MIT, UWaterloo, and UofT is better. Nothing else beats the network of IITs. As far as giving kids freedom, to an extent sure but being too laissez-faire is a white-anglo thing.

Hahahahah this is hilarious. Exactly why I think immigration for economic means is a failed idea. Imagine having a kid grow up in Canada/US and then having them go to college in India lol

What? Immigration only makes sense for economic reasons. Nothing else. How many Norwegians, Swiss, or Danes do you see rushing to come to Canada?

Work/residence visas would be the same difficulty as with an Indian passport unless the countries have some special agreement like TN or E3. Only visitor visas get easier or become unnecessary in most cases.

You must be a citizen of a country with a decent passport to say that.

Canada has more free trade aggreements than India and unlike India's FTAs, Canada's FTAs all include special work permits. CETA is one example. Even without the FTAs, if there's no difference then how come, on this very forum, there's a huge difference in accceptance/rejection rates based on citizenship for study permits? Or family reunification? When was the last time you heard of a EU wife of a Canadian citizen being rejected for spousal sponsorship?

None of these institutions have NRI/OCI quotas. They'd have to go through the same exams and processes as everyone else. Good luck having your first world kid compete against someone cramming in Kota for 4 years. Edit: looks like NITs now have a foreign resident quota.

DASA has been a thing since early 2000s:
https://dasanit.org/dasa2022/

IIT Bombay international students page:
https://www.iitb.ac.in/en/education/international-applicants

IIM Ahmedabad international students page (don't even have to give CAT like Indian students, only GMAT like every other business school - if you're OCI):
https://www.iima.ac.in/web/pgp-fabm/apply/overseas-candidates

For DASA, you need to give JEE but the cut-offs are less than SC/ST quota. You basically need to be alive and you'll qualify. Not sure if you're Indian but if are you'll understand what I just said.

 

[Deleted member 1006777]

What? Immigration only makes sense for economic reasons. Nothing else. How many Norwegians, Swiss, or Danes do you see rushing to come to Canada?

I meant economic immigration from the country's perspective. Mass immigration will not solve Canada's economic issues, and I'm fairly certain the Canadian economy will collapse in a few decades. Immigration won't do a damn thing to solve it.

 

[Deleted member 1006777]

Even B1 requires an effort, and to be honest, too much of an effort for only 4 points.

This is true. It is absolutely not worth it if the goal is 4 points. But if you push a bit further and get to B2, then the > 62 points is more than worth it.

 

[ImpatientAlligator]

DASA has been a thing since early 2000s:
https://dasanit.org/dasa2022/

IIT Bombay international students page:
https://www.iitb.ac.in/en/education/international-applicants

IIM Ahmedabad international students page (don't even have to give CAT like Indian students, only GMAT like every other business school - if you're OCI):
https://www.iima.ac.in/web/pgp-fabm/apply/overseas-candidates

For DASA, you need to give JEE but the cut-offs are less than SC/ST quota. You basically need to be alive and you'll qualify. Not sure if you're Indian but if are you'll understand what I just said.

I stand corrected on NITs and IIMs, but AFAIK, the foreign students still have to compete with Indian students in IITs for seats.

 

[meddreamer81]

Hey guys, so my score is 495 and I am currently working in Quebec with a Closed Work Permit and LMIA.
I have also received a Letter of Interest from Ontario 3 weeks ago.
My question is : Should I still give regular Express Entry FSW a chance? Or should I go for the PNP route(It will cost me 1500$)

Please advise.

 

[Deleted member 1006777]

Hey guys, so my score is 495 and I am currently working in Quebec with a Closed Work Permit and LMIA.
I have also received a Letter of Interest from Ontario 3 weeks ago.
My question is : Should I still give regular Express Entry FSW a chance? Or should I go for the PNP route(It will cost me 1500$)

Please advise.

Depends on how long you want to wait. It'll take a few months for you to get an ITA with a 495. But it may take just as long for you to get an ITA through PNP becasue they need to process you app as well. Difference is you have the NOI now, and you're gambling with the possibility of maybe getting an ITA through FSW.

$1500 is nothing in the long run, and basing potentially life altering decisions on that much is asinine.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

It's about increasing options in life because you never know what the future holds. It's a fact that a Canadian passport gives you more options in life, even if you want to live in India. I'd rather my kids go to IITs if they can't qualify for UWaterloo or Toronto. McGill might be higher in the rankings but look at the actualy post-graduation salary data. Only Ivy League, Stanford, MIT, UWaterloo, and UofT is better. Nothing else beats the network of IITs. As far as giving kids freedom, to an extent sure but being too laissez-faire is a white-anglo thing.


What? Immigration only makes sense for economic reasons. Nothing else. How many Norwegians, Swiss, or Danes do you see rushing to come to Canada?


You must be a citizen of a country with a decent passport to say that.

Canada has more free trade aggreements than India and unlike India's FTAs, Canada's FTAs all include special work permits. CETA is one example. Even without the FTAs, if there's no difference then how come, on this very forum, there's a huge difference in accceptance/rejection rates based on citizenship for study permits? Or family reunification? When was the last time you heard of a EU wife of a Canadian citizen being rejected for spousal sponsorship?


DASA has been a thing since early 2000s:
https://dasanit.org/dasa2022/

IIT Bombay international students page:
https://www.iitb.ac.in/en/education/international-applicants

IIM Ahmedabad international students page (don't even have to give CAT like Indian students, only GMAT like every other business school - if you're OCI):
https://www.iima.ac.in/web/pgp-fabm/apply/overseas-candidates

For DASA, you need to give JEE but the cut-offs are less than SC/ST quota. You basically need to be alive and you'll qualify. Not sure if you're Indian but if are you'll understand what I just said.

If your kids are born in Canada or anywhere in the West, they will never go to IIT or anywhere in Asia for uni, trust me. Maybe for a exchange semester (unlikely as they'd rather go to France or Spain) but yeah, as a full time student, no chance

For a Turkish you have a pretty much good knowledge about indians lol

Went to an intl school mate, great for understanding different cultures

 

[PRANIT01]

If your kids are born in Canada or anywhere in the West, they will never go to IIT or anywhere in Asia for uni, trust me. Maybe for a exchange semester (unlikely as they'd rather go to France or Spain) but yeah, as a full time student, no chance


Went to an intl school mate, great for understanding different cultures

I consider you as a naturalised Turkish born bradder lol

 

[seadrag0n]

I consider you as a naturalised Turkish born bradder lol

When is the bradder meetup happening?