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AmericanGirlinLove

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Dec 30, 2014
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
07-04-2014
Doc's Request.
22-08-2014
AOR Received.
22-05-2014
File Transfer...
03-06-2014
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
16-03-2014
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
22-08-2014
VISA ISSUED...
17-04-2015
LANDED..........
27-04-2015
michminn said:
Hello,

Has anyone here traveled from Canada to USA then back again, while awaiting PR status? I have a Visitor visa which expires In December 2015 and would like to visit family on holidays. I applied Outland. Just worried, don't want any grief coming back into Canada.

Thanks
Hey, a little late so I'm not sure if you got an answer to your question or not yet, but, I cross the border about 5 times a week with a visitor visa. (Work in Detroit, live in Windsor) When my Visitor Record expired in March, I just continued crossing until the date of expiration and they just renewed in in about 15 minutes. The officer renewed it for a year instead of just an additional 6 months. That was nice, but it just made me worry that maybe there are delays in processing of my PR. Hope that helped to answer your questions. BTW I applied Outland as well. You will be fine.
 

BeShoo

Champion Member
Jan 16, 2010
1,212
36
Gatineau
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-01-2014
AOR Received.
28-02-2014
File Transfer...
03-03-2014
Med's Request
19-06-2014
Med's Done....
07-08-2014
Interview........
None
VISA ISSUED...
02-04-2015
LANDED..........
13-04-2015
rugrat907 said:
I am going to send the expired one anyway since it will show a clean record and will only be a couple of months out of date.
That should work out just fine. We sent in an FBI report that was three years old last January and they didn't ask for a new one until June. (Sponsorship approval took about 4-5 weeks last January.) You'll have the new FBI report long before they need it.

rugrat907 said:
Our biggest concern is her income - she is 63 and not working - she previously had owned her own business, but that was many years ago and hasn't had a need to work for various reasons for quite some time.
You won't have any problem at all with your wife's income situation. There is no minimum income for a spousal sponsorship. The only rare instance where income comes into play at all is if it appears that you have no prospect at all of supporting yourselves ones the immigration comes into effect. I'm sure that she's just fine in her situation.
 

rugrat907

Hero Member
Feb 3, 2015
424
28
California
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-03-2015
AOR Received.
25-04-2015
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
21-11-2014, remeds on 04-12-2015
VISA ISSUED...
COPR issued 21-12-2015
BeShoo said:
You won't have any problem at all with your wife's income situation. There is no minimum income for a spousal sponsorship. The only rare instance where income comes into play at all is if it appears that you have no prospect at all of supporting yourselves ones the immigration comes into effect. I'm sure that she's just fine in her situation.
Thanks BeShoo - that's very reassuring. Once we file I will update my profile with all the pertinent info and post about how it's going and what we run into...hopefully it will be helpful for others.
 

keesio

VIP Member
May 16, 2012
4,795
396
Toronto, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-01-2013
Doc's Request.
09-07-2013
AOR Received.
30-01-2013
File Transfer...
11-02-2013
Med's Done....
02-01-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
12-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
15-08-2013
LANDED..........
14-10-2013
rhcohen2014 said:
they took my us license. it's like when you transfer license's between states, you can't hold (or aren't suppose to hold) 2 licenses from different states at the same time. you are basically taking your experience as a us driver and using it to obtain a canadian license.
Yep, it's why my wife and I still have our NYS licenses because when we go back to visit family, we need a car to get around (she still has her car there). Here (Toronto), we live right downtown and don't even own a car (too expensive to park anyway!).
 

rhcohen2014

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Apr 6, 2014
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Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March 17, 2014
Doc's Request.
April 11, 2014
AOR Received.
May 8, 2014
File Transfer...
May 9, 2014
Med's Request
upfront
Med's Done....
Nov 15, 2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
July 15, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
July 25, 2014/ received August 1, 2014
LANDED..........
August 29, 2014
keesio said:
Yep, it's why my wife and I still have our NYS licenses because when we go back to visit family, we need a car to get around (she still has her car there). Here (Toronto), we live right downtown and don't even own a car (too expensive to park anyway!).
i don't understand... you can drive in the states with your ontario license. are you saying you pay for insurance on a car in the us and that's why you don't switch your licenses over? otherwise, it doesn't make sense to me to not switch licenses because of traveling to the us to visit family.
 

OntarioBound

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Nov 11, 2014
215
4
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-12-2014
AOR Received.
7-3-2015 (SA-13-3-2015)
Med's Done....
05-11-2014
VISA ISSUED...
DM on 4-6-2015 or earlier
LANDED..........
8-7-2015
keesio said:
Yep, it's why my wife and I still have our NYS licenses because when we go back to visit family, we need a car to get around (she still has her car there). Here (Toronto), we live right downtown and don't even own a car (too expensive to park anyway!).
keesio, does NY come after you to try to make you pay NY state tax? I live in CA and I have been told California considers you a resident of California if you carry a DL's from CA and it's possible they come after you for state taxes...
 

JayPinNC

Star Member
Oct 22, 2014
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JayPinNC said:
I'm about to do this in 11 days. Will be driving a moving truck across the border while wifey drives the family car with a suitcase in the back. We still have ties to the U.S. - bank account, house, investments, etc - but I'm moving 99% of our things to make life a little simpler and she's visiting to help us me get settled, etc. She gets nervous easily and I'm trying to give her clear concise answers for questions she's likely to get when she crosses. If anybody has input, it's welcome as always.
Done.

Drove up to the border at Queenston-Lewiston (use the RV lane if you have a moving truck) with wifey in our car behind me. Explained to the border officer what we were doing and I was asked the typical questions for anybody who crosses under normal circumstances. I admitted I had a palm tree in my truck and I got a tongue-lashing about pests and soil. I was told that I'd have to discard the plant and soil. (more on that later).

Was directed to the parking area while wifey got questioned. She said she was nervous but was asked the basics (and a few questions about why our son was already in Canada) but nothing beyond that.

We headed inside to complete the importation of my goods. I was told that I had created one of the best accounting of goods the CBSA guy had ever seen. We chit-chatted about my car value (it's on my list of goods to follow) and he even let me use the Red Book to make sure both my valuation and the CBSA valuation was under $10,000CAD. Both were under the $10,000 value. Exportation/importation of my vehicle will be another post. I got my receipt, stamps on my spreadsheets, and headed over to immigration to handle wifey's situation (I'm her Dec 2014 outland sponsor).

We walked to the immigration counter together, explained what was going on and the two CBSA folks working the immigration counter couldn't have been more helpful (they were obviously "work wife" / "work husband" to each other - they were busting each others' chops the entire time while remaining professional.) We explained that we had paid the PR application fees but had no AOR or UCI (they didn't know what either meant meant) but they managed to see some details of the application so we knew it was in process to some degree which was very helpful. They asked how long my wife wanted to stay and she said "As long as legally possible." We also explained that she still has ties to the U.S. - including a father in FL with cancer and they were very clear that she should use that fact when she went to extend or reapply for her visitor record. Aside from reviewing her passport, they took our word for everything but we were definitely prepared.

It took them about an hour to print her VR because they are learning a new system (that was their claim) but in the end, we got the 6 month VR (we didn't ask for it - it was just given), my receipt for goods and we were on our way.

As for the palm tree...a gentle reminder from the CBSA officer who processed my B4 about the dangers of pests + soil. I'd tell you about what happened when I opened the door to the moving truck to show CBSA what was inside, but uh...that never happened. 9pm on a Friday night and -9F probably contributed to that.

If you have any specific questions, ask here or PM me. Happy to answer questions about my experience.
 

jamsham12

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Jan 6, 2015
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App. Filed.......
01/19/2015
AOR Received.
03/16/2015
File Transfer...
04/21/2015
Passport Req..
In Process: 08/06/2015 DM: 10/31/2015
VISA ISSUED...
11/16/2015
LANDED..........
12/30/2015
Outland us applicants still looking at the 6-8 month time frame with no red flags? noticed SA was at 85 days :-X
 

cillyx5

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Oct 13, 2014
127
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Ottawa
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-10-2015
AOR Received.
07-15-2015
jamsham12 said:
Outland us applicants still looking at the 6-8 month time frame with no red flags? noticed SA was at 85 days :-X
What is SA?

Also, can someone share where they are seeing the 6-8 month time frame everyone talks about?

Thanks!
 

BeShoo

Champion Member
Jan 16, 2010
1,212
36
Gatineau
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-01-2014
AOR Received.
28-02-2014
File Transfer...
03-03-2014
Med's Request
19-06-2014
Med's Done....
07-08-2014
Interview........
None
VISA ISSUED...
02-04-2015
LANDED..........
13-04-2015

rugrat907

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Feb 3, 2015
424
28
California
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-03-2015
AOR Received.
25-04-2015
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
21-11-2014, remeds on 04-12-2015
VISA ISSUED...
COPR issued 21-12-2015
cillyx5 said:
Also, can someone share where they are seeing the 6-8 month time frame everyone talks about?

Thanks!
If you go up 4 posts to rhcohen, you can see a link to a google spreadsheet in his signature line. It has all kinds of great data based on information that's based on real examples from people who have gone through the process and their timelines.
 

keesio

VIP Member
May 16, 2012
4,795
396
Toronto, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-01-2013
Doc's Request.
09-07-2013
AOR Received.
30-01-2013
File Transfer...
11-02-2013
Med's Done....
02-01-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
12-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
15-08-2013
LANDED..........
14-10-2013
rhcohen2014 said:
i don't understand... you can drive in the states with your ontario license. are you saying you pay for insurance on a car in the us and that's why you don't switch your licenses over? otherwise, it doesn't make sense to me to not switch licenses because of traveling to the us to visit family.
My wife still has her car registered and insured in the US under her name and my name is also on the policy.
 

michminn

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Aug 26, 2014
330
6
124
Nanaimo, BC
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP - Miss to Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23/09/2014
AOR Received.
05/12/2014
File Transfer...
05/12/2014
Med's Done....
18/03/2014
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Waives/US citizen
VISA ISSUED...
COPR 17/6/2015
LANDED..........
Soon... 25/6/2015 !!!!!!!!!!! Anticipated
Mariac819 said:
You can have a BC drivers license with out being a resident?
Yes, as long as your visitor record is approved for longer than 6mos.
 

michminn

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Aug 26, 2014
330
6
124
Nanaimo, BC
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP - Miss to Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23/09/2014
AOR Received.
05/12/2014
File Transfer...
05/12/2014
Med's Done....
18/03/2014
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Waives/US citizen
VISA ISSUED...
COPR 17/6/2015
LANDED..........
Soon... 25/6/2015 !!!!!!!!!!! Anticipated
AmericanGirlinLove said:
Hey, a little late so I'm not sure if you got an answer to your question or not yet, but, I cross the border about 5 times a week with a visitor visa. (Work in Detroit, live in Windsor) When my Visitor Record expired in March, I just continued crossing until the date of expiration and they just renewed in in about 15 minutes. The officer renewed it for a year instead of just an additional 6 months. That was nice, but it just made me worry that maybe there are delays in processing of my PR. Hope that helped to answer your questions. BTW I applied Outland as well. You will be fine.
Thank You! ;)
 

mandy_28115

Star Member
Jul 28, 2014
86
4
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July 29,2014
Doc's Request.
Sept 13 2014
AOR Received.
September 26,2014
File Transfer...
November5, 2014
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
Aug 15, 2014
LANDED..........
May 24, 2015
I was issued a visitor record or pass and it expires on March. I was told I had to turn it in at the boarder when it expires? I came back down to the states and forgot to turn it when when I passed through the boarder. I do not want my PR application to get flagged or anything. I had to come back to the states to work even though we bought a home in Canada.