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procedural fairness letter

C_Survival

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Do anyone know how long it takes normally to send a fairness letter (in case it is sent) after uploading medicals?
does it take long to hear back in case of rejection (fairness letter)?
 

samir3132

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Jan 11, 2014
Med's Request
June 04 2014
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Here copy of letter
I note that the letter of employment dated 07NOV2013 indicates you were employed on a part- time basis as a Warehouse Shipping Clerk for a period of one month between JUL2012 and AUG2012. I note that upon completion of your studies, you were promoted to the position of a Warehouse Supervisor in SEP2012.
I note that the letter of employment indicates you are working as a full-time (40 hours/week) Warehouse Supervisor with a salary of $11.00/hour. I note that the lowest indicated wage for this position as shown on the Working in Canada website is $12.00/hour.
Having noted the above, I do not find it credible that you were awarded a promotion to Warehouse Supervisor having only one month of work experience on a part-time basis as a Warehouse Shipping Clerk of this company. In addition, I am not satisfied that you are employed as a Warehouse Supervisor given your indicated salary of $11.00/hour.

They concern about promotion and pay rate.
 

Omshri

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CPC- Ottawa
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
October 1, 2013
AOR Received.
November 14, 2013
IELTS Request
Sent with Application
Med's Request
April 6, 2014
Med's Done....
Upfront, March 29, 2014
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
July 16, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
July 28, 2014
LANDED..........
August 3, 2014
Think carefully and respond.. I would say take a Lawyer Suggestion for responding draft then you are good to go as PR
Best Wishes..
 

CEC_1304

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Omshri said:
Think carefully and respond.. I would say take a Lawyer Suggestion for responding draft then you are good to go as PR
Best Wishes..
Yes it will be better to take Lawyer input in such case

Samir ,

Here are few Scenario and case for "procedural fairness letter". (Just fyi )
http://www.canadianimmigration.net/immigrate-to-canada/applicant-case-files.html
 

samir3132

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Jun 15, 2010
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Visa Office......
cpp
NOC Code......
1215
App. Filed.......
Nov 22, 2013
AOR Received.
Jan 08, 2014
IELTS Request
submitted with application
File Transfer...
Jan 11, 2014
Med's Request
June 04 2014
Med's Done....
June 06 2014
Passport Req..
sep 26,2014
VISA ISSUED...
06 Oct 2014
LANDED..........
Feb 01 2015
CEC_1304 said:
Yes it will be better to take Lawyer input in such case

Samir ,

Here are few Scenario and case for "procedural fairness letter". (Just fyi )
http://www.canadianimmigration.net/immigrate-to-canada/applicant-case-files.html
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Its really helpfull link for all people who get this type of letter.

I submitted two day befor all document by email as well post. Any one have any idea when I will get more response from cic?
 

samir3132

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Jun 15, 2010
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Visa Office......
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NOC Code......
1215
App. Filed.......
Nov 22, 2013
AOR Received.
Jan 08, 2014
IELTS Request
submitted with application
File Transfer...
Jan 11, 2014
Med's Request
June 04 2014
Med's Done....
June 06 2014
Passport Req..
sep 26,2014
VISA ISSUED...
06 Oct 2014
LANDED..........
Feb 01 2015
Now just wait and watch for good favourable dcision from cic. After long wait.
 

CEC_1304

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samir3132 said:
Now just wait and watch for good favourable dcision from cic. After long wait.
Don't worry Buddy ,
All will be in your favor .

God is there

Best Wishes to you, keep posted
 

samir3132

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Jun 15, 2010
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cpp
NOC Code......
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App. Filed.......
Nov 22, 2013
AOR Received.
Jan 08, 2014
IELTS Request
submitted with application
File Transfer...
Jan 11, 2014
Med's Request
June 04 2014
Med's Done....
June 06 2014
Passport Req..
sep 26,2014
VISA ISSUED...
06 Oct 2014
LANDED..........
Feb 01 2015
Deedle said:
Can I ask, which documents did you provide them? Another employment letter?
Some letter from company with my sign employer letter and other one accountant letter. And my explanation letter.
 

SimK

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Jul 23, 2013
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1211, 6314
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Pre-Assessed..
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13-05-2014
Doc's Request.
none
AOR Received.
25-06-2014
IELTS Request
Celpip sent with application
File Transfer...
25-06-2014
Med's Request
18-06-2015
Med's Done....
19-06-2015
Passport Req..
02-07-2015
VISA ISSUED...
07-07-2015
LANDED..........
07-14-2015
I thought there was no minimum wage requirement for CEC. Its also mentioned in the operation bulletin. I think Samir has a solid point to fight on. :)
 

samir3132

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Jun 15, 2010
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Visa Office......
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NOC Code......
1215
App. Filed.......
Nov 22, 2013
AOR Received.
Jan 08, 2014
IELTS Request
submitted with application
File Transfer...
Jan 11, 2014
Med's Request
June 04 2014
Med's Done....
June 06 2014
Passport Req..
sep 26,2014
VISA ISSUED...
06 Oct 2014
LANDED..........
Feb 01 2015
SimK said:
I thought there was no minimum wage requirement for CEC. Its also mentioned in the operation bulletin. I think Samir has a solid point to fight on. :)
Yes my lawyer mention that in explanation letter.
 

samir3132

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Jun 15, 2010
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12
Visa Office......
cpp
NOC Code......
1215
App. Filed.......
Nov 22, 2013
AOR Received.
Jan 08, 2014
IELTS Request
submitted with application
File Transfer...
Jan 11, 2014
Med's Request
June 04 2014
Med's Done....
June 06 2014
Passport Req..
sep 26,2014
VISA ISSUED...
06 Oct 2014
LANDED..........
Feb 01 2015
Any one want to share some experience?
 

LPS

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Aug 7, 2013
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2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-08-2013
AOR Received.
07-10-2013
Med's Request
07-03-2014
Med's Done....
26-03-2014
LANDED..........
09-04-2014
Thanks for sharing samir3132, do keep us updated on how this turns out. It sounds like you did the right thing by getting legal advice.

So basically, two concerns were raised: that your wage is rather low for what is supposed to be a supervisory position, and that your prior work experience is much less than someone would usually have.

We do see these kinds of things cited as refusal reasons from time to time - the officer is not convinced that the person could be working in the job they claim to have, due to a low salary, or a lack of relevant education or work experience, etc. But it could also be overturned with a strong enough reply.

In any case, good luck!
 

samir3132

Champion Member
Jun 15, 2010
1,211
12
Visa Office......
cpp
NOC Code......
1215
App. Filed.......
Nov 22, 2013
AOR Received.
Jan 08, 2014
IELTS Request
submitted with application
File Transfer...
Jan 11, 2014
Med's Request
June 04 2014
Med's Done....
June 06 2014
Passport Req..
sep 26,2014
VISA ISSUED...
06 Oct 2014
LANDED..........
Feb 01 2015
LPS said:
Thanks for sharing samir3132, do keep us updated on how this turns out. It sounds like you did the right thing by getting legal advice.

So basically, two concerns were raised: that your wage is rather low for what is supposed to be a supervisory position, and that your prior work experience is much less than someone would usually have.

We do see these kinds of things cited as refusal reasons from time to time - the officer is not convinced that the person could be working in the job they claim to have, due to a low salary, or a lack of relevant education or work experience, etc. But it could also be overturned with a strong enough reply.

In any case, good luck!
Hi i saw one year in canada as well in management in different company three year from back home.
 

LPS

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Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-O
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-08-2013
AOR Received.
07-10-2013
Med's Request
07-03-2014
Med's Done....
26-03-2014
LANDED..........
09-04-2014
samir3132 said:
Hi i saw one year in canada as well in management in different company three year from back home.
Oh I see - that wasn't mentioned in the procedural fairness letter. Hopefully they consider this in their review.