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Pre-existing condition health coverage

Irfyg

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Jun 4, 2017
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Hello all,

My wife has received her COPR (out-land application) and will be moving to Toronto, Ontario, where she will be moving in with me (Canadian Citizen).

We are concerned with regards to the 3 month window of OHIP, as she has a chronic corneal condition and is on numerous daily prescribed eye drops, as well as needs regular (bi-weekly) check-ups with specialist consultants.

As you can imagine, this can very easily break the bank and we're worried that there really is no way around this. I've gone to numerous insurance companies, yet none of them will accept her due to her not meeting the "stable for x amount of days" (her frequency of applying one drop or the other changes almost monthly).

Anybody have any insight to a similar situation or circumstance, that may be able to provide some enlightenment?
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
92,917
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28-06-2010
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It's unlikely there is a way around this - apart from paying for all health care costs out of your own pocket for the first three months.

Insurance companies aim to make a profit. So they aren't going to approve a policy which they know out the gate will cost them more than the premiums you pay. It's possible you may be able to find some sort of specialized insurance that will cover this care - however you should expect the premiums will cost you more than the cost of the base care she needs.
 

Rob_TO

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Nov 7, 2012
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Seoul, Korea
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18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
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N/R - Exempt
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30-10-2012
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16-11-2012
There is zero chance OHIP will waive 3 month waiting period.

And as mentioned, no insurer will give you a policy on a pre-existing condition where it's guaranteed they will pay out so much in claims.

As i see your only 2 options are:
1. Budget and pay for everything out of pocket for first 3 months until OHIP kicks in.
2. Occasionally return back to her home country for the treatments and checkups if it's cheaper or she's covered there. Just make sure she doesn't leave long enough (30 days cumulative) to void the OHIP waiting period.
 

Irfyg

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Jun 4, 2017
3
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It's unlikely there is a way around this - apart from paying for all health care costs out of your own pocket for the first three months.

Insurance companies aim to make a profit. So they aren't going to approve a policy which they know out the gate will cost them more than the premiums you pay. It's possible you may be able to find some sort of specialized insurance that will cover this care - however you should expect the premiums will cost you more than the cost of the base care she needs.
Yeah, it seems I'm going to have to pay it all out of pocket for the 3 months.
 

Irfyg

Newbie
Jun 4, 2017
3
0
There is zero chance OHIP will waive 3 month waiting period.

And as mentioned, no insurer will give you a policy on a pre-existing condition where it's guaranteed they will pay out so much in claims.

As i see your only 2 options are:
1. Budget and pay for everything out of pocket for first 3 months until OHIP kicks in.
2. Occasionally return back to her home country for the treatments and checkups if it's cheaper or she's covered there. Just make sure she doesn't leave long enough (30 days cumulative) to void the OHIP waiting period.
You're right, I've combed through the Health Act, as well as contacted Service Ontario - Absolutely no chance of waiving this under the few exemptions they have.
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
92,917
20,532
Toronto
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Buffalo
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
You're right, I've combed through the Health Act, as well as contacted Service Ontario - Absolutely no chance of waiving this under the few exemptions they have.
OHIP definitely won't make an exception. That was a non-starter from the beginning.

Your only possible option is to find private insurance. But again, I think you can expect the costs of that insurance to exceed your known expenses.
 

Rob_TO

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Nov 7, 2012
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Toronto
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Seoul, Korea
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13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
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21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
You're right, I've combed through the Health Act, as well as contacted Service Ontario - Absolutely no chance of waiving this under the few exemptions they have.
Alternatively, if you can instead move to a province that doesn't have a waiting period (like Alberta) and commit to staying there at least 6 months, then you would be covered for healthcare immediately upon landing.
 

lotuslover

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Jul 5, 2017
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India
Sort of similar question, if a 27 year old has hypertension (high blood pressure) and is on medication, can he clear the medical test ?
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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20,532
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Sort of similar question, if a 27 year old has hypertension (high blood pressure) and is on medication, can he clear the medical test ?
Difficult for any of us to judge. It would depend on why the blood pressure meds are needed (i.e. what is the underlying condition causing the high blood pressure).
 

yodheydhara

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Sep 12, 2016
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Hi All,
I will be arriving in Ontario later this month. I understand that the OHIP card will take about 3 months to come. So, in the meantime, I am planning to purchase private insurance. Any recommendations on which insurance company to go for?
 

Steevy

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May 31, 2014
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Vancouver
Hi All,
I will be arriving in Ontario later this month. I understand that the OHIP card will take about 3 months to come. So, in the meantime, I am planning to purchase private insurance. Any recommendations on which insurance company to go for?
Depending on your age, preferences for coverage, deductible and whether or not you have any pre-existing medical issues you should be able to find quite a few options. Private insurance for newcomers to Canada will cover the costs for medical emergency care i.e. treatment of unexpected sicknesses or injuries. It does not cover non-emergency situations i.e. routine check-ups or an ongoing treatment for a medical condition (if you have any).

If you are around 30-35 y.o., then on average prices will range from $150-300 for a policy for around 90 days.

You can take us an online insurance calculator to see what options are available and get a personal quote - Insurance for Newcomers to Canada
 

yodheydhara

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Sep 12, 2016
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Depending on your age, preferences for coverage, deductible and whether or not you have any pre-existing medical issues you should be able to find quite a few options. Private insurance for newcomers to Canada will cover the costs for medical emergency care i.e. treatment of unexpected sicknesses or injuries. It does not cover non-emergency situations i.e. routine check-ups or an ongoing treatment for a medical condition (if you have any).

If you are around 30-35 y.o., then on average prices will range from $150-300 for a policy for around 90 days.

You can take us an online insurance calculator to see what options are available and get a personal quote - Insurance for Newcomers to Canada
Thanks Steevy, this is helpful!!