PR FOR RELIGIOUS WORKER

[viju_108]

Hello Everyone, I am working in Hindu temple Priest ( NOC 4154rofessional in Religion Occupation) since 9th June 2015,My visa type is wx-1 worker,I am getting boarding in lodging facility here, plus I am getting 500 $ per month stipend for my living expense, in June 2016 I will complete here one year, I also have given CELPIP General test in which I scored 7.5 over all CLB level. Temple is ready to give me Reference letter mentioning my paid experience.

1)Will I qualify PR under Canadian Experience Class ?

2)Is it mandatory to receive payment with T4 tax slips or Just showing 6000 $ (500 $ per 12 month) in my bank account in Canada will be enough to prove my one year paid Canadian experience ?

Please Give advice,I will be very much thankful.

 

[akil_f1]

Hello Everyone, I am working in Hindu temple Priest ( NOC 4154rofessional in Religion Occupation) since 9th June 2015,I am getting boarding in lodging facility here, plus I am getting 500 $ per month stipend for my living expense, in June 2016 I will complete here one year, I also have given CELPIP General test in which I scored 7.5 over all CLB level. Temple is ready to give me Reference letter mentioning my paid experience.

1)Will I qualify PR under Canadian Experience Class ?

2)Is it mandatory to receive payment with T4 tax slips or Just showing 6000 $ (500 $ per 12 month) in my bank account in Canada will be enough to prove my one year paid Canadian experience ?

I think you can apply under CEC i via Express entry. what is your status WP or visiting ?
for CEC apart from the temple reference letter you would need T4 and NOA also. did ypu file your taxes in 2015 ?

 

[scylla]

How many points do you have under Express Entry? As of now, only those with 450 points or more have been selected.

 

[viju_108]

I have wx-1 worker visa, I was not knowing about T4 and NOA, but accountant told me still I can file my taxe for 2015. After clearing about T4 and NOA, Will I need to show attach my bank statement while applying for PR ?

I want to apply on basis of CEC, still I has to apply through Express Entry and score 450 points to get selected? Please clarify.

 

[Gregor.Samsa]

I have wx-1 worker visa, I was not knowing about T4 and NOA, but accountant told me still I can file my taxe for 2015. After clearing about T4 and NOA, Will I need to show attach my bank statement while applying for PR ?

I want to apply on basis of CEC, still I has to apply through Express Entry and score 450 points to get selected? Please clarify.

EE is a first step previous to apply trough CEC/FSW/FST streams.

You first need to meet CEC requirements, fill out an EE profile and hope to get enough score to obtain an invitation to apply.

Sincerely, without LMIA or PNP Invitation is hard to get ITA.

Anyways you start creating your EE profile and see what happens.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/

For CEC or being working in Canada, no funds are required, if you write 0, as someone told here, when asked about funds you won't need to provide bank statements.

T4 and payment stubs are usually not needed, excepts CIC wants to confirm your job.

Some questions:
- Do you have a WP?
- Your employer should have provide T4 slips and payroll stubs.
- You should fill tax return out, even if it's not compulsory, to support your PR application.


Your bank statements hardly can be probe of employment payments, just if wire transfer show employer name could help.

 

[scylla]

I want to apply on basis of CEC, still I has to apply through Express Entry and score 450 points to get selected? Please clarify.

Yes - you still have to apply through Express Entry if you are applying for CEC.

Yes - so far no one with fewer than 450 points has been selected. So how many points you have is critical.

 

[viju_108]

Okay, I understand t4 slips and I will get it done through my employer, but what about payroll stubs. how to show it & whats format of it, I am sorry to ask this as our organization is charity base hindu temple,and our employer is old not knowing this thing in detail but still willing to help and do needful, that's why I need to know this silly thing. Please Clarify.

 

[Kiranmayi]

Okay, I understand t4 slips and I will get it done through my employer, but what about payroll stubs. how to show it & whats format of it, I am sorry to ask this as our organization is charity base hindu temple,and our employer is old not knowing this thing in detail but still willing to help and do needful, that's why I need to know this silly thing. Please Clarify.

I understand the situation. If you have a contact with your employers accountant who usually handles taxation for your employer and generates T4 forms can give you pay stubs based on your monthly income. Your 12 months pay stubs income will/should match with your T4 hence your employers account would be best person to provide your pay stubs.

So contact them. good luck!

 

[ethanriar]

Hello Everyone, I am working in Hindu temple Priest ( NOC 4154rofessional in Religion Occupation) since 9th June 2015,My visa type is wx-1 worker,I am getting boarding in lodging facility here, plus I am getting 500 $ per month stipend for my living expense, in June 2016 I will complete here one year, I also have given CELPIP General test in which I scored 7.5 over all CLB level. Temple is ready to give me Reference letter mentioning my paid experience.

1)Will I qualify PR under Canadian Experience Class ?

2)Is it mandatory to receive payment with T4 tax slips or Just showing 6000 $ (500 $ per 12 month) in my bank account in Canada will be enough to prove my one year paid Canadian experience ?

Please Give advice,I will be very much thankful.

No offence to anyone but i don't think being just a priest at some temple, you should be given the right to apply for permanent residency. We have spent so much time and energy in getting proper skilled jobs just to get eligible for our PR. And, now i came across this post that by being just a priest I could have applied for the PR.
I hope someone enlighten CIC that there's no such palce of these so called Priest NOCs.

 

[apardhamija]

No offence to anyone but i don't think being just a priest at some temple, you should be given the right to apply for permanent residency. We have spent so much time and energy in getting proper skilled jobs just to get eligible for our PR. And, now i came across this post that by being just a priest I could have applied for the PR.
I hope someone enlighten CIC that there's no such palce of these so called Priest NOCs.

I agree, to become a permanent resident we have to compete with highly skilled people and then we are eligible, it should not be given to some priest, In what way is priest helping country grow or is helping its economy, if they give permanent residency to priests then there are millions of priests in India, they will all get here. Moreover if a temple has invited someone to Canada to do duties of a priest it must be a contract at the end of which you go back to where you came from.

 

[Kota1978]

I agree, to become a permanent resident we have to compete with highly skilled people and then we are eligible, it should not be given to some priest, In what way is priest helping country grow or is helping its economy, if they give permanent residency to priests then there are millions of priests in India, they will all get here. Moreover if a temple has invited someone to Canada to do duties of a priest it must be a contract at the end of which you go back to where you came from.

Namaskar Pundit Ji...

I am your regular visitor in NE temple . The easiest way would be to get LMIA (it would cost your employer $1000) but if you got it , it would be easy for you to get PR through Express Entry.

 

[Naheulbeuck]

I agree, to become a permanent resident we have to compete with highly skilled people and then we are eligible, it should not be given to some priest, In what way is priest helping country grow or is helping its economy, if they give permanent residency to priests then there are millions of priests in India, they will all get here. Moreover if a temple has invited someone to Canada to do duties of a priest it must be a contract at the end of which you go back to where you came from.

So basically you are saying that since it was hard for you, it will make your life better if it is hard for everybody...

Do you see the problem in that thought process, with that, you wouldn't be allowed to immigrate in Canada, because, you kind of come to steal jobs from Canadians!

I am not a religious person and i can be quite intolerant towards them when they are intolerant with others or try to impose their views onto others, but for all I know, this priest, is not trying to impose his religion on me or others (he may but i have no evidence of that) and he can be beneficial to those who have the same faith as his, he serves a purpose for a portion of the population, do I impact more people with my profession? maybe, maybe not, do I improve the canadian society more with my profession than he does? hard to really guess.

His win does not mean your loss, you lose nothing if he gets his PR as a priest, so don't be rude and offensive.


Now to answer the original question:

Your NOC code is A therefore it qualifies. You still need to meet the other criteria though. You need 12 month full time or the equivalent part time.
Your pay stub need to reflect that, i am not sure based on your compensation that it can be argued that you work full time as a priest but those are fairly specific and only a lawyer or your temple's accountant could answer this really. Your compensation if full time cannot be below the minimum wage (that would put your temple in trouble) and 6,000 dollars, even adding the boarding doesn't seem to cut it for me but again, you need to check with a lawyer. The good news is that 30hours per week is already considered full time for CRA so as long as you can justify that you should be ok on that point.

For your taxes, it is quite complicated, and here your temple's accountant (if the temple doesn't have one well, you need one...) needs to provide you with info, but I hope you have realized that like anybody else, you need to pay taxes. The boarding and lodging are taxable benefits and CRA (if your accountant doesn't do it) will estimate the value of it (if you are in Toronto for example, it can be quite valuable as the value is determined by the cost of renting a similar place). If they provide you with food, again, it is a taxable benefit, therefore CRA will increase our income by a reasonable amount to pay for food for each meals every day.

All this can add up pretty fast and in your situation, you will have a hard time if you don't do it honestly and properly: for your PR you need to show that it is reasonable to claim that you worked full time, for CRA you will need to claim enough income for it to be reasonable (just the lodging in toronto can add up pretty fast to easily more than 10,000 dollars.

You will have to pay taxes on that income (I hope you either got some deducted from your $500.00 or that you set some aside everymonth). On your income, your employer should also have deducted CPP, EI, RPP, maybe also some health insurance premiums. If it wasn't done, you are also responsible for that (along with your employer), and the health benefit is another taxable benefit if not claimed...
If your income is only around 20,000, you'll owe close to 2,000 easily...

For your PR application, you'll need your tax affairs in order. It is way too complicated to be explained on a forum and you only have 14 more days to get it in order or else you'll face penalties and interest on top of the amount of tax owing.

I strongly recommend to discuss all this with your employer and have him get in touch with an accountant.

 

[ethanriar]

So basically you are saying that since it was hard for you, it will make your life better if it is hard for everybody...

Do you see the problem in that thought process, with that, you wouldn't be allowed to immigrate in Canada, because, you kind of come to steal jobs from Canadians!

I am not a religious person and i can be quite intolerant towards them when they are intolerant with others or try to impose their views onto others, but for all I know, this priest, is not trying to impose his religion on me or others (he may but i have no evidence of that) and he can be beneficial to those who have the same faith as his, he serves a purpose for a portion of the population, do I impact more people with my profession? maybe, maybe not, do I improve the canadian society more with my profession than he does? hard to really guess.

His win does not mean your loss, you lose nothing if he gets his PR as a priest, so don't be rude and offensive.


Now to answer the original question:

Your NOC code is A therefore it qualifies. You still need to meet the other criteria though. You need 12 month full time or the equivalent part time.
Your pay stub need to reflect that, i am not sure based on your compensation that it can be argued that you work full time as a priest but those are fairly specific and only a lawyer or your temple's accountant could answer this really. Your compensation if full time cannot be below the minimum wage (that would put your temple in trouble) and 6,000 dollars, even adding the boarding doesn't seem to cut it for me but again, you need to check with a lawyer. The good news is that 30hours per week is already considered full time for CRA so as long as you can justify that you should be ok on that point.

For your taxes, it is quite complicated, and here your temple's accountant (if the temple doesn't have one well, you need one...) needs to provide you with info, but I hope you have realized that like anybody else, you need to pay taxes. The boarding and lodging are taxable benefits and CRA (if your accountant doesn't do it) will estimate the value of it (if you are in Toronto for example, it can be quite valuable as the value is determined by the cost of renting a similar place). If they provide you with food, again, it is a taxable benefit, therefore CRA will increase our income by a reasonable amount to pay for food for each meals every day.

All this can add up pretty fast and in your situation, you will have a hard time if you don't do it honestly and properly: for your PR you need to show that it is reasonable to claim that you worked full time, for CRA you will need to claim enough income for it to be reasonable (just the lodging in toronto can add up pretty fast to easily more than 10,000 dollars.

You will have to pay taxes on that income (I hope you either got some deducted from your $500.00 or that you set some aside everymonth). On your income, your employer should also have deducted CPP, EI, RPP, maybe also some health insurance premiums. If it wasn't done, you are also responsible for that (along with your employer), and the health benefit is another taxable benefit if not claimed...
If your income is only around 20,000, you'll owe close to 2,000 easily...

For your PR application, you'll need your tax affairs in order. It is way too complicated to be explained on a forum and you only have 14 more days to get it in order or else you'll face penalties and interest on top of the amount of tax owing.

I strongly recommend to discuss all this with your employer and have him get in touch with an accountant.

There is no point of arguing on this topic when we already know that this priest dont even get the minimum wage. I strongly recommend CIC not to allow such guys to play and misuse the different immigration streams. They should instead consider helping educated and skilled people including international student who are already paying taxes but are still waiting for their profiles to be considered under express entry. And at that sametime,
some so called priests are trying to forge the immigration system to settle in Canada without even paying taxes. Isn't it ironic.

Moreover, i wonder how these temples or religious organisations can sponsor someone on work permits if they are only going to pay them $500 a month. That is already a misuse of sponsorship. I hope such organisations should be ban to allow sponsorships.

 

[Naheulbeuck]

What is your job that you feel you bring so much more to society? And yes there is a high chance that he gets paid minimum wages as I mentioned, his food, his rent, all those are part of employment income. The only question is whether it was done properly by his temple.

I am not religious but i am against all forms of discrimination and I strongly doubt that you bring more to the canadian society with this type of thinking. You spit on people you know nothing about and show no respect, saying I don't want to be rude doesn't change the fact that you are, it just shows that you don't have the common sense to realize it...

 

[Kiranmayi]

There is no point of arguing on this topic when we already know that this priest dont even get the minimum wage. I strongly recommend CIC not to allow such guys to play and misuse the different immigration streams. They should instead consider helping educated and skilled people including international student who are already paying taxes but are still waiting for their profiles to be considered under express entry. And at that sametime,
some so called priests are trying to forge the immigration system to settle in Canada without even paying taxes. Isn't it ironic.

Moreover, i wonder how these temples or religious organisations can sponsor someone on work permits if they are only going to pay them $500 a month. That is already a misuse of sponsorship. I hope such organisations should be ban to allow sponsorships.

Do you think priests are not highly educated? Ex. You can sponsor or hire a highly educated person by paying less to him but show more on papers in order to get work permits from CIC. That does not mean the person is not highly educated but actually you are educated but uneducated person here. So same thing was happen to this priest. So it is CIC problem approving Work Permits.

If you ask, If this priest is highly educated then why he should work for less. right? It is same as yours you may be from one of rich country but struggling to get PR in Canada to settle down here for good life. He wants same. What is wrong in it.

So, so called priest are not trying to forge anything. before you say that, pls go and visit any temple or gurudwara or buddh temple or mosque and see how much economy flowing down to government.

I understand your frustration but My humble request to you is learn something and understand the reality before you throw words .

Good luck!