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Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship 2018

ravdawg

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Can someone please confirm:

2016 tax NOA: Above cut-off for MNI
2017 tax NOA: Will be above cut off for MNI
2018 tax NOA: Will be (assuming all is well with employment) above cut off for MNI

Does that mean the earliest I can apply for sponsorship is January 2020? Since 2018 NOA wont be in until April 2019..

Seems odd that you must wait till the following year?
 

Rob_TO

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Can someone please confirm:

2016 tax NOA: Above cut-off for MNI
2017 tax NOA: Will be above cut off for MNI
2018 tax NOA: Will be (assuming all is well with employment) above cut off for MNI

Does that mean the earliest I can apply for sponsorship is January 2020? Since 2018 NOA wont be in until April 2019..

Seems odd that you must wait till the following year?
If rules stay same as this year you can apply for lottery in January 2019.

All years MNI amounts, must be using family size you will have in 2019.
 

ravdawg

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If rules stay same as this year you can apply for lottery in January 2019.

All years MNI amounts, must be using family size you will have in 2019.
Really? but when I would apply in January 2019, i wouldnt have done my taxes yet for 2018, since that is done April 2019(for 2018 year).

IF i can apply January 2019 that would be great...but i'm maybe reading the requirements wrong?

Example: On CanadaVisa it says this:

"Note: It is expected that applicants applying in 2017 must provide proof of income from the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) for the taxation years of 2015, 2014 and 2013." Seems to not include 2016..
 

ravdawg

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So now i just read: https://www.matkowsky.ca/minimum-necessary-income

"To be eligible to sponsor your Parents or Grandparents, you MUST exceed the MNI for each of the last 3 years. If applying in 2017, your income in 2014, 2015 and 2016 must exceed the corresponding MNI for 2014, 2015, 2016 Each income year must be matched with the MNI year.

Please Note: The MNI & Income matching is always using numbers starting from 1 year before the actual year you are applying since their is a time lag in processing tax returns. For 2018, you use numbers for 2017, 2016, 2015."

Which would support you @Rob_TO

Now im confused and cautiously hopeful :p
 

Rob_TO

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N/R - Exempt
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30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Really? but when I would apply in January 2019, i wouldnt have done my taxes yet for 2018, since that is done April 2019(for 2018 year).

IF i can apply January 2019 that would be great...but i'm maybe reading the requirements wrong?

Example: On CanadaVisa it says this:

"Note: It is expected that applicants applying in 2017 must provide proof of income from the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) for the taxation years of 2015, 2014 and 2013." Seems to not include 2016..
It's just the lottery in January. Actual app (if selected in lottery) wouldn't be until middle of the year, after taxes are done.
 
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ChippyB

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I landed in 2011 but rules changed for 3 year noa so had to wait; I’m also waiting since 2012.

Lottery started for 2017 and 2018; before that question of spoiling qualified people place by unqualified was not possible.
I have been here since 2013. I applied in 2016 but too many applications - mine was not accepted, despite meeting all eligibility. 2017, was not selected from the Lotto. Crossing my fingers for selection in 2018.
 

Toronto-Citizen

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I have been here since 2013. I applied in 2016 but too many applications - mine was not accepted, despite meeting all eligibility. 2017, was not selected from the Lotto. Crossing my fingers for selection in 2018.
Lottery system works only for fortunate folks while the previous method favoured residents of Mississauga(or those within GTA).

I am not in a position to criticize IRCC's modus operandi as I do not have a better recommendation to process PGP sponsorship applications.

I am keeping my fingers crossed as much as you are!
 

razerblade

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Lottery system works only for fortunate folks while the previous method favoured residents of Mississauga(or those within GTA).

I am not in a position to criticize IRCC's modus operandi as I do not have a better recommendation to process PGP sponsorship applications.

I am crossing my fingers as much as you are!
I don't understand how the previous method favored residents of the GTA. Those residents also had to do research like anyone else to find out about the local couriers. What was stopping people from other parts of Canada to mail their applications to the same courier company a few days in advance ?
 

Toronto-Citizen

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I don't understand how the previous method favored residents of the GTA. Those residents also had to do research like anyone else to find out about the local couriers. What was stopping people from other parts of Canada to mail their applications to the same courier company a few days in advance ?
There were cases where people mailed their applications in advance and they were delivered on or before 31st Dec of the previous year.

Those applications were not considered for further processing.

Residents of Mississauga had benefits in such cases. That's all I was trying to say.

In spite of having lived in Brampton for 5 years and in GTA for almost 8 years, I still make the above statement.
 

razerblade

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There were cases where people mailed their applications in advance and they were delivered on or before 31st Dec of the previous year.

Those applications were not considered for further processing.

Residents of Mississauga had benefits in such cases. That's all I was trying to say.

In spite of having lived in Brampton for 5 years and in GTA for almost 8 years, I still make the above statement.
I was saying why couldn't people from other parts of Canada mail their applications to the local courier companies in advance, not IRCC. These local couriers would've then lined up on Jan 2nd with all the applications. Sure they would have had to pay a bit more, but that's hardly unfair.

Anyway, it's too late for that now. Now we're stuck with this silly far from perfect lottery system. Who knows how long it would take IRCC to perfect it. By then countless people would be eligible to apply. Sad I was a year late, else would've made it.