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New Express Entry ranking system will be applied on Nov 19th (detail inside!)

Alexios07

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  • Brace yourself! the new system is here to stay:

    http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2016/2016-11-12/html/notice-avis-eng.php#na1

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    Canadian educational credentials



    The points that are to be assigned for a Canadian educational credential are the following:
    • 0 points, if the foreign national has a secondary school educational credential;
    • 15 points, if the foreign national has an eligible credential from a one-year or two-year post-secondary program;
    • 30 points, if the foreign national has either:

    +an eligible credential from a post-secondary program of three years or more,

    +an eligible credential from a university-level program at the master’s level or at the level of an entry-to-practice professional degree for an occupation listed in the National Occupational Classification matrix at Skill Level A for which licensing by a provincial regulatory body is required, or

    +an eligible credential from a university-level program at the doctoral level.

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New information we have gathered so far

  • 30 more days for ITA submission -> We know have 90 days or 3 months to submit our application
  • We can see our rankings in the pool
  • LMIA: No more 600 points. You only get 200 points if the NOC of your job starts with 00 (LIST here). 50 pts for the rest.
    • PNP is now the only way to get full 600 points

    Question: How do you know 200 points is the maximum for LMIA? the source doesn't say anything about the removal of 600 points

    Answers: Because by successfully getting an LMIA approved, your job is recognized a valid job offer, and with valid job offer, you get 600 points in the old system

    What makes a job offer valid under Express Entry?

    A valid job offer must be supported by a Labour Market Impact Assessment (LMIA) from Employment and Social Development Canada (ESDC).
    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=695&top=29
    Now the new system clearly states that, qualifying offer or valid job offer aka LMIA can only get either 200 points or 50 points only


    If a foreign national has a qualifying offer of arranged employment, they may be assigned points as follows:

    (a) 200 points, if the offer is for employment in an occupation contained in Major Group 00 of the National Occupation Classification; or
    (b) 50 points, if the offer is any other qualifying offer of arranged employment.

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    Skills Transferability changes

    1. Level of foreign education & Language

    a. 13 points for post secondary credential (1 year or more) & CLB 7 or higher in all areas with one or more areas below CLB 9.
    b. 25 points for post secondary credential (1 year or more) & CLB 9 or higher in all areas.
    c. 25 points for 2 or more degrees/Masters/PhD & CLB 7 or higher in all areas with one or more areas below CLB 9.
    d. 50 points for 2 or more degrees/Masters/PhD & CLB 9 or higher in all areas.

    2. Level of foreign education & Canadian work experience

    a. 13 points for post secondary credential (1 year or more) & 1 year of CWE.
    b. 25 points for post secondary credential (1 year or more) & 2 or more years of CWE.
    c. 25 points for 2 or more degrees/Masters/PhD & 1 year of CWE.
    d. 50 points for 2 or more degrees/Masters/PhD & 2 or more years of CWE.

    3. Level of language & Foreign work experience

    a. 13 points for 1/2 years of FWE & CLB 7 or higher in all areas with one or more areas below CLB 9.
    b. 25 points for 1/2 years of FWE & CLB 9 or higher in all areas.
    c. 25 points for at least 3 years of FWE & CLB 7 or higher in all areas with one or more areas below CLB 9.
    d. 50 points for at least 3 years of FWE & CLB 9 or higher in all areas.

    Maximum possible points on Skills Transferability remains 100 (max of 50 in each section).


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As of now, the CRS calculator hasn't been updated yet:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp

Check the Date Modified at the end of the page
 

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So they are getting 30 more points max?
 

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kryt0n said:
So they are getting 30 more points max?
I think so, based on what I've read so far. It's pretty fair I think.

No mention of Canadian siblings....
 

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And this...


Points for qualifying offer of arranged employment
29 (1) If a foreign national has a qualifying offer of arranged employment, they may be assigned points as follows:

(a) [size=10pt]200 points[/size], if the offer is for employment in an occupation contained in Major Group 00 of the National Occupation Classification; or
(b) [size=10pt]50 points[/size], if the offer is any other qualifying offer of arranged employment.
 

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Alexios07 said:
I think so, based on what I've read so far. It's pretty fair I think.

No mention of Canadian siblings....
This seems 100% fair. It's the equivalent of giving them 1 extra year of Canadian work experience.
 

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Asivad Anac said:
And this...
Foreign national student or just a foreign national :s
 

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kryt0n said:
This seems 100% fair. It's the equivalent of giving them 1 extra year of Canadian work experience.
Yup, more than enough for CEC applicants.

Asivad Anac said:
And this...
It means 50 pts for LMIA and 200 pts for NOC A and 0 occupations?
 

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kryt0n said:
Foreign national student or just a foreign national :s
Foreign national - LMIA jobs.
 

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Alexios07 said:
Yup, more than enough for CEC applicants.

It means 50 pts for LMIA and 200 pts for NOC A and 0 occupations?
So is this saying the 600 points is gone and the max now is 800?
 

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And this...

(b) 13 points, if the foreign national has one or two years of foreign work experience and their proficiency in their first official language is assessed at level 7 or higher in all language skill areas, with one or more areas assessed at less than level 9;
(c) 25 points, if the foreign national has one or two years of foreign work experience and their proficiency in their first official language is assessed at level 9 or higher in all language skill areas;
(d) 25 points, if the foreign national has at least three years of foreign work experience and their proficiency in their first official language is assessed at level 7 or higher in all language skill areas, with one or more areas assessed at less than level 9; and
(e) 50 points, if the foreign national has at least three years of foreign work experience and their proficiency in their first official language is assessed at level 9 or higher in all language skill areas.
FWE points for less than 3 years as well.
 

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kryt0n said:
So is this saying the 600 points is gone and the max now is 800?
I think we still have 600pts through PNPs, they just significantly nerf the LMIA down.
 

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Has the link crashed? I cannot seem to open it now!
 

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Most importantly, these Instructions come into force on November 19, 2016. Probably no more draws based on the old scoring pattern.
 

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tormentor said:
Has the link crashed? I cannot seem to open it now!
It's super slow, I guess too many traffic. It can crash at any given time now.

Guys, please post your findings for each section. I will summarize it at the first post.
 

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Alexios07 said:
It's super slow, I guess too many traffic. It can crash at any given time now.

Guys, please post your findings for each section. I will summarize it at the first post.
I'm pretty confused, not going to lie... but it's basically spaced it all out a bit more? Hmmmm... so the points will come into force on 19th... i think I need a new calculator.

Thanks, CIC... moving the goal posts again!!