Home Childcare Provider Pilot 2019

[Twinkleberry]

Guys look at this ( from the immigrations and refugees protection Act section 25.2): "25.2 (1) The Minister may, in examining the circumstances concerning a foreign national who is inadmissible or who does not meet the requirements of this Act, grant that person permanent resident status or an exemption from any applicable criteria or obligations of this Act if the foreign national complies with any conditions imposed by the Minister and the Minister is of the opinion that it is justified by public policy considerations."

What this means is that the Minister has the power to grant permanent residence to people who are not even qualified as long as his decision/policy is justified by a positive impact...which in this case is that it will help in reducing backlog and prevent multiple year delays in processing caregiver applications.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/section-25.2.html#:~:text=25.2 (1) The Minister may,foreign national complies with any

 

[ProudNanny]

Why do they always put the applicants mind in gray areas? Its very clear that they are the ones got delayed in processing, now releasing another sort of statement just to make look their taking action? The people now are after the result of what they should do for those pending applications and yet updates are still vague as of this moment.

Exactly!

Guys look at this : "25.2 (1) The Minister may, in examining the circumstances concerning a foreign national who is inadmissible or who does not meet the requirements of this Act, grant that person permanent resident status or an exemption from any applicable criteria or obligations of this Act if the foreign national complies with any conditions imposed by the Minister and the Minister is of the opinion that it is justified by public policy considerations.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/section-25.2.html#:~:text=25.2 (1) The Minister may,foreign national complies with any

Wow. Someone is doing her assignment. Good job! I can relate because I usually read everything about the program or a public policy (i even used one public policy before). I don’t have a lawyer, or anyone to explain it to me (except from calling the ircc MANY TIMES that it made me memorized the recorded audio). Thanks for sharing this. I will do my best not to explode while talking with an agent if they will just tell me “oh no, the recent public policy is just to inform all the applicants that has been hold due to covid that we are now starting the process. See, I’m gonna staple it now before your eyes”. Hahaha!

 

[canada2000]

Exactly!

Wow. Someone is doing her assignment. Good job! I can relate because I usually read everything about the program or a public policy (i even used one public policy before). I don’t have a lawyer, or anyone to explain it to me (except from calling the ircc MANY TIMES that it made me memorized the recorded audio). Thanks for sharing this. I will do my best not to explode while talking with an agent if they will just tell me “oh no, the recent public policy is just to inform all the applicants that has been hold due to covid that we are now starting the process. See, I’m gonna staple it now before your eyes”. Hahaha!

 

[quami]

@quami it is for both inside and outside

I really hope so.

But what about 2019 applicants??

 

[ProudNanny]

I really hope so.

But what about 2019 applicants??

That’s my point why I considered the public policy as NOTHING SPECIAL. Because they did not mention 2019. I really think that it is only to inform the applicants who has the temporary file number for a year now that they will do special OVERTIME work to process everything, thus FACILITATE. And since 2019 has permanent AOR, no need for a public policy.

 

[Julyyyyyy]

I really hope so.

But what about 2019 applicants??

I am so sorry and upset with any update.
I got medical request but I applied under interim pathway.
I wish other applicants in 2019 will get news as soon as possible.
We all deserve it!!

 

[yadav]

We r July 2019 applicants but so far have no update. Looks like they want to ensure the 2 years is exactly for the processing

 

[joe_cic]

I really hope so.

But what about 2019 applicants??

Let’s see it this way:

Program started on June 18, 2019 and will end June 17, 2024 — making it a 5-year pilot program

So,
June 18, 2019 to June 17, 2020 applications = 2020 applicants / year 1

June 18, 2020 to June 17, 2021 applications = 2021 applicants / year 2

June 18, 2021 to June 17, 2022 applications = 2022 applicants / year 3

June 18, 2022 to June 17, 2023 applications = 2023 applicants / year 4

June 18, 2023 to June 17, 2024 applications = 2024 applicants / year 5

Isn't?

My point is, the Public Policy (mentioning 2020) is referring to year 1 of the program, and I also think it covers both insider and outside applications.

 

[RA2188]

Hi Quami, i believe the 1,500 first stage decisions by June 30, 2021 refer to those who applied OUTSIDE Canada for HCCP & HSWP from 2019 to 2020. What you think?

And as per IRCC update, prioritization of these decisions will allow more caregiver WORK PERMITS to be issued for those who have valid job offers to work for families in Canada.

I hope and pray that on or before June 30, 2021, those who applied OUTSIDE Canada will receive Approvals...

Lets see in two months time...

By the way, did you receive any update with your application? Or receive atleast Temporary File No.?

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2021/04/minister-mendicino-launches-plan-to-accelerate-caregiver-application-processing.html

Yes i received temporary file number in march 24, 2021 and i submitted my file in august 2020.

 

[RA2188]

Hello, i let you know, I received temporary file number in march 24, 2021 and i submitted my file in august 2020 from outside canada.

 

[quami]

Let’s see it this way:

Program started on June 18, 2019 and will end June 17, 2024 — making it a 5-year pilot program

So,
June 18, 2019 to June 17, 2020 applications = 2020 applicants / year 1

June 18, 2020 to June 17, 2021 applications = 2021 applicants / year 2

June 18, 2021 to June 17, 2022 applications = 2022 applicants / year 3

June 18, 2022 to June 17, 2023 applications = 2023 applicants / year 4

June 18, 2023 to June 17, 2024 applications = 2024 applicants / year 5

Isn't?

My point is, the Public Policy (mentioning 2020) is referring to year 1 of the program, and I also think it covers both insider and outside applications.

I'm not so sure about this. Isn't it the 2021 cap for HCCP has already been reached? And they said, those who weren't able to get in the cap can apply starting Jan 2022.

If what you're stating above is the one they follow. Shouldn't they have said to apply on June 18, 2021 instead?

Again, just my speculation

 

[joe_cic]

I'm not so sure about this. Isn't it the 2021 cap for HCCP has already been reached? And they said, those who weren't able to get in the cap can apply starting Jan 2022.

If what you're stating above is the one they follow. Shouldn't they have said to apply on June 18, 2021 instead?

Again, just my speculation

Yes, we are all speculating on what 2020 HCCP applicants could mean in the policy. I think they’re referring to all applications received from the inception of the program until June 17, 2021 (meaning, the first year of the program). This number of applications (that will be considered under the policy) would definitely be lesser than 3750 considering the max quota (3750) was reached in November 2021.

I was actually referring to the

 

[Twinkleberry]

The cap per class (hccp/hswp) is 2,750/year

In 2019 just 790 hccp and 277 hccp was recieved
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/transparency/committees/march-12-2020/caregivers.html

majority of that number received aor, T4&NOA request, biometrics, medicals request etc meaning that their applications are in process and nearly reaching completion.

On the other Hand, hccp reached cap of 2,750 in November 2020, I don't know how many hswp was submitted in 2020 but the vast majority of this number didn't get AOR in 2020 informing them if they were eligible to be processed or not. Not even a temporary file number. We could be talking 3,000 - maybe 3,500 unprocessed 2020 applicants as against 1,067 from 2019 who are already being processed.

It's clear that the hccp/hswp applications ircc received in 2020 that were not processed is going to pose serious delay problems for future applicants and their employers, if something is not done about 2020 applicants.

Imagine this, hccp has reached cap in 2021, so there's an additional 3,000+(hccp & hswp) applicants waiting to be processed for 2021, this is just May, who knows maybe hswp will reach cap this year and we will be talking 5,000+ applications. Difference though now is that they haven't had to wait 1 full year like 2020 applicants to get permanent file number.

 

[canada2000]

I'm sure ... we will have updates soon ... Let's wait and see. And, good luck again.

 

[joe_cic]

The cap per class (hccp/hswp) is 2,750/year

In 2019 just 790 hccp and 277 hccp was recieved
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/transparency/committees/march-12-2020/caregivers.html

majority of that number received aor, T4&NOA request, biometrics, medicals request etc meaning that their applications are in process and nearly reaching completion.

On the other Hand, hccp reached cap of 2,750 in November 2020, I don't know how many hswp was submitted in 2020 but the vast majority of this number didn't get AOR in 2020 informing them if they were eligible to be processed or not. Not even a temporary file number. We could be talking 3,000 - maybe 3,500 unprocessed 2020 applicants as against 1,067 from 2019 who are already being processed.

It's clear that the hccp/hswp applications ircc received in 2020 that were not processed is going to pose serious delay problems for future applicants and their employers, if something is not done about 2020 applicants.

Imagine this, hccp has reached cap in 2021, so there's an additional 3,000+(hccp & hswp) applicants waiting to be processed for 2021, this is just May, who knows maybe hswp will reach cap this year and we will be talking 5,000+ applications. Difference though now is that they haven't had to wait 1 full year like 2020 applicants to get permanent file number.

I completely agree with this.

Correcting as 2750/year — not 3750