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Food for thought - marriage fraud and scam-artists

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3-6-2013 Finally! all the best everyone
gsize said:
interesting. So the new Immigrant must stay with their spouse ? For how long ? Thats not going to work here.
like if they dont then go back to their home country, cuz if its not because of their spouse they wont be here in the first place, if someone married to be with the spouse and not the country, then why not. I know immigration will never be this way but i think this is the best way to prevent fraud,my opinion.
 

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Omg! I read this in the newspaper today but watching her cry so hard almost brought tears to my eyes. This is so sad. It can happen to anyone. I hope they find the jerk who did this to her and deport his behind back to cuba! So inhumane!
 

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Such a sad story. Just watching her cry breaks your heart :(

I have to say this though...I don't know why people sink their self in debt just because they can, and not because of any real need. People need to use their head and not their heart. All the gifts, and money she was spending on him should have been a red flag. A true mate would have stopped her from all that she was spending on him and his family.
 

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Mevakesh said:
Such a sad story. Just watching her cry breaks your heart :(

I have to say this though...I don't know why people sink their self in debt just because they can, and not because of any real need. People need to use their head and not their heart. All the gifts, and money she was spending on him should have been a red flag. A true mate would have stopped her from all that she was spending on him and his family.
+1


Which is why I don't agree with the statement "it could happen to anyone" - possibly- but I know it definitely wouldn't happen to me for a number of reasons, one of which is that I am self-sufficient, and wouldn't spend money on and give my husband/partner money and assets I could not afford. A lot of this particular story I am afraid does come down to being aware and common sense. (The financial side, anway)
 

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amikety said:
Condition PR - Only applies to applications recieved on or after Oct 2012. (Yes I forget the exact day.)

- if you have kids you're exempt
- if you were married more than two years BEFORE filing, you are exempt
- there was a line about being together four years or more before filing also being exempt, but that seems to have poofed. Not sure if this is true or not.

So if you're married under two years without children, you must remain in a real relationship (i. e., living together, regular "adult" contact, etc) for a minimum of two years after landing.
Lest we forget, this is all MOOT if they don't chase them down. We'll know more oh in about two years!
(Only picked this post coz it listed the conditions.)
 

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One of my coworkers told me about this earlier today. I feel for this woman. Sometimes love/rose-coloured glasses makes us not notice the red flags and (as seen above) it can devastate families.
 

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truesmile said:
Lest we forget, this is all MOOT if they don't chase them down. We'll know more oh in about two years!
(Only picked this post coz it listed the conditions.)
I'm imagine it'll work more like whoever whines the loudest gets their case investigated! :p
 

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truesmile said:
Lest we forget, this is all MOOT if they don't chase them down. We'll know more oh in about two years!
(Only picked this post coz it listed the conditions.)
But before the new rule (like in this case)... the scammer will still be fully eligible for their PR status, SIN card, health care, to go on welfare, and eventually gain full citizenship.

With new rules... the sponsor can report the relationship over to CIC. Doesn't matter if they can't find the guy... i'm sure they could revoke all the benefits i mentioned above even if they don't know where he is exactly.
 

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I heard,read and saw these kind of issues many times about few years ago..
 

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Gary_87 said:
and this is why we wait so long and get so scrutinized. This is so bad.

There should be new clauses put in place at least if they cant predate these things.
I feel really bad for her. It seems like she really thought she was getting her "happy ever after" and he was just in it for the pr card. The crazy thing is that he was approved which means even with the insanely long wait times that we are told are needed to make sure the applicants are in a legit relationship failed. I would really use this as a point as to show how CIC has such a broken system. She called the Canada Border Services Agency to report the alleged fraud, but says she was told: “Your case is one in 10,000. You’ll never know what happens to him.” just shows how they are waisting our time as legit couples in making our lives hell by making us wait such long times and they are still letting frauds in without any real way to get rid of them once they are in. It would seem to me that the more logical way for CIC to work would be to put more focus on getting rid of the frauds upon realization!
 

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I'm sorry but the creepy/weird picture of the guy is too much (standing behind her on their wedding day with crazy look on his face like an evil character in a Disney cartoon)
 

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Steph C said:
I'm sorry but the creepy/weird picture of the guy is too much (standing behind her on their wedding day with crazy look on his face like an evil character in a Disney cartoon)
This was my first thought when I saw that photo!
 

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Mevakesh said:
Such a sad story. Just watching her cry breaks your heart :(

I have to say this though...I don't know why people sink their self in debt just because they can, and not because of any real need. People need to use their head and not their heart. All the gifts, and money she was spending on him should have been a red flag. A true mate would have stopped her from all that she was spending on him and his family.
Such a true statement. My wife never asks me to buy anything for her family. And I sure for shit ain't going into debt unless it's for myself.
 

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Here's another one...

http://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2013/02/07/from_cuba_yet_another_broken_heart.html

The guy - 56; The girl - 27 with 11-yr old daughter

WTF was he thinking? Didn't he see warning signs? She got knocked up at 15.

Lucky for these two that they only suffered financially, and that neither picked up HIV nor a serious STD.

Live and learn.
 

kevwoodfine

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I feel sorry for her... She fell in love and this scammer played her like a fool.. He fooled her and fooled Canada.

Canada needs to get tough.


" If the marriage fails within 5 years you go home "

That's how it should be.