Email from CIC that PR card renewal needs secondary review
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you can write an email to the embassy of the country you travelled and once they reply that they don't maintain such records you can provide that as proof of correspondence at the same time provide Entry exit stamps of the country you visited ( translation ) along with boarding pass or tickets of your entry exit in Canada and may be credit card bills of the days you were in Canada
Both. Indeed, any evidence of dates of exit and dates of entry may be considered in assessing the accuracy of the PR's account.
The assessment begins with, and in some respects ends with, the PR's account. Then other sources of information are considered to determine whether IRCC can rely on the PR's account or whether there are reasons-to-question-residency. Among the other sources, IRCC will consider CBSA travel history for the PR. That is not the only other source IRCC might consider.
If IRCC determines the PR has failed to provide an accurate account of travel history, unless there is other evidence in the record which adequately proves the applicant met the PR Residency Obligation, that can be enough to result in a negative outcome. IRCC does not (and generally will not) prove a PR failed to comply with the PR RO. A negative outcome can be based simply on the PR's failure to meet the burden of proving compliance.
It tends to get more difficult to meet the burden of proof once it is determined the PR's account is inaccurate. It is really important for a PR to be as accurate as possible in reporting travel history. This is why I said that the assessment begins with and in some respects ends with the PR's account. If the PR's account is determined to be accurate (or close enough to accurate to rely on it), that is usually enough. If the PR's account is determined to NOT be accurate, that can be enough in the opposite way, enough to result in a negative outcome.
You can get travel history from CBSA under ATIP, however, Canada does not register all exits. You will get entrance records. Herein is the problem because if CBSA had all entry and exits records then it would be relatively simple to calculate days spent in Canada. This is the reason they want some PR renewal applicants who are placed in secondary review to submit passport copies and to obtain Entry Exit records from countries that they have visited.
Here is the link to obtain travel history https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/welcome.do
Same timeline as you.
Secondary Review received August, sent documents September 13, haven’t heard anything yet.
I wish your case gets processed as well as waiting is no fun. This was for my father a senior citizen and not many entry exits. I had not provided the copy of his passport at the time of applying and may be that’s why they asked. All the stamps for entry and exit were on his passport and all in english.
I concur with the following post:
Beyond that: How important the PR's travel history is will VARY CONSIDERABLY:
A PR who is currently IN CANADA and who has been settled in Canada, living predominantly in Canada for the past four or five or more years, and who has a paper trail of his or her life in Canada, has little reason to worry if he or she cannot provide precise dates for the travel history. Approximations should be acknowledged, but a PR who has spent 1500 plus days in Canada during the preceding five years will be OK . . . and should be OK even if just 1200 to 1300 in Canada. Especially if the PR has had regular employment in Canada over that period of time.
A PR who has not fully settled in Canada and who has spent less than half the time in Canada (less than 900 days) during the preceding five years, on the other hand, really needs to make a concerted effort to be as complete and accurate as possible in declaring travel history dates. And especially so if this PR is traveling abroad (even more so if abroad for any extended duration) now or after applying for a new PR card.
In between, other factors can affect how it will go, not the least of which of course is the extent to which the PR's accounting of travel dates is approximate or has omissions.
The PR who is cutting-it-close but who is in Canada and can stay in Canada, may want to consider just staying in Canada longer, waiting to apply for a new PR card after building a solid history of being settled in Canada with documentation to corroborate this. A PR does not necessarily need a currently valid PR card, and particularly so if the PR is not traveling outside Canada.
Hello Dear,
I would like to know if you get any news?
I am new in this forum.
feel very concerned about the time is taking all process.
You can come back definitely but without PR card you cannot take a direct flight into Canada. You will need a PRTD for that or else fly into any Canada bordering city in U S and then ask some friends to drive you to Canada or take a rental car from wherever you land in US.
Hi Have anybody send an application to renew PR card in the same time frame as me
Sent my application by mail 26 December 2017
and up to today Feb 23,2018 I didn't hear anything or receive any email and if I check my application status online, its
was written can be find information ...
THanks so much
Sent my application by mail 26 December 2017
and up to today Feb 23,2018 I didn't hear anything or receive any email and if I check my application status online, its
was written can be find information ...
THanks so much
Yes, I submitted for my PR renewal as well on 20th Dec 2018, and till now no information from CIC.