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Carmageddon

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Apr 19, 2012
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Rome
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2174
App. Filed.......
03.01.2016
Nomination.....
05.07.2016
AOR Received.
24.08.2016
Med's Done....
26.08.2016
Passport Req..
09.11.2016
VISA ISSUED...
21.11.2016
LANDED..........
19.04.2017
Considering singles get 40 points more than families who dont get wife's education and IELTS done.

Would it be a good idea to register alone without family, and then later after getting the PR, sponsoring them from inside Canada?
The drawback is that provinces like families more than Singles, so it may diminish the chances to get provincial support...
 

codeno47

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Jun 28, 2013
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Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2173
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
26-05-2014
Carmageddon said:
Considering singles get 40 points more than families who dont get wife's education and IELTS done.

Would it be a good idea to register alone without family, and then later after getting the PR, sponsoring them from inside Canada?
The drawback is that provinces like families more than Singles, so it may diminish the chances to get provincial support...
it is also important that, how you justify the scenario to CIC . If they find any issues, things can go worst!. just double check with past experiences.
 

Carmageddon

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Apr 19, 2012
300
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Canada
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Rome
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
03.01.2016
Nomination.....
05.07.2016
AOR Received.
24.08.2016
Med's Done....
26.08.2016
Passport Req..
09.11.2016
VISA ISSUED...
21.11.2016
LANDED..........
19.04.2017
codeno47 said:
it is also important that, how you justify the scenario to CIC . If they find any issues, things can go worst!. just double check with past experiences.
What does past experience say?
I dont see why would I even have to justify it to CIC?
All I have to say is that for the time being, we decided to split and that my wife remains separate from me.
After I get the PR, I (we) are entitled to change our mind, no? 8)
 

sumitpal22

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Nov 24, 2014
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INDIA
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Colombo
NOC Code......
1212
App. Filed.......
17-12-2014
Doc's Request.
CC CHARGED : 09 FEB 2015
Nomination.....
NO
AOR Received.
27-04-2015
IELTS Request
SUBMITTED WITH APPLICTION 7 7 6.5 7
File Transfer...
04-03-2015
Med's Request
30-09-2015
Med's Done....
10-10-2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
04-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
28-04-2016
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05-07-2016
Carmageddon said:
Considering singles get 40 points more than families who dont get wife's education and IELTS done.

Would it be a good idea to register alone without family, and then later after getting the PR, sponsoring them from inside Canada?
The drawback is that provinces like families more than Singles, so it may diminish the chances to get provincial support...
there are equal marks for both with spouse and without spouse.

Check below:
fpaikar said:
Guys please help explain anyone
you will get marks based on the following:

A. Core/human capital factor Max Marks(With Spouse) (Without SPouse)
i) Age= 100 110
ii) Level of Education= 140 150
iii) Official language proficiency= 150 160
iv) Canadian Work Experience= 70 80

B. Spouse factor
i) Level of Education= 10 0
ii) Official language proficency(OLP)= 20 0
iii) Canadian Work Experience= 10 0

C. Skill Transferability factors
a) Education
i) Strong OLP & Post Secondary Degree(PSD)= 50 50
ii) Canadian Work experience & PSD= 50 50

b)Foreign work experience.
i) Strong OLP & Foreign Work Experience(FWE)= 50 50
ii) Canadian Work experience & FWE= 50 50

D. Additional points
i) Arranged Employment= 300 300
ii) PN nomination= 300 300
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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Buffalo
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28-05-2010
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19-08-2010
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28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
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05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Carmageddon said:
What does past experience say?
I dont see why would I even have to justify it to CIC?
All I have to say is that for the time being, we decided to split and that my wife remains separate from me.
After I get the PR, I (we) are entitled to change our mind, no? 8)
You're entitled to change your mind - but this doesn't meant you will be allowed to sponsor your wife later. CIC isn't stupid. Many others have tried this type of trick before and CIC has put rules in place to prevent it. If you say that you split from your wife and exlcude her from your application, this will mean you can NEVER sponsor her. If she wants to come to Canada after you have immigrated, then she will have to qualify to immigrate on her own. You will not be able to sponsor her.
 

Carmageddon

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Apr 19, 2012
300
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Canada
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Rome
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
03.01.2016
Nomination.....
05.07.2016
AOR Received.
24.08.2016
Med's Done....
26.08.2016
Passport Req..
09.11.2016
VISA ISSUED...
21.11.2016
LANDED..........
19.04.2017
scylla said:
You're entitled to change your mind - but this doesn't meant you will be allowed to sponsor your wife later. CIC isn't stupid. Many others have tried this type of trick before and CIC has put rules in place to prevent it. If you say that you split from your wife and exlcude her from your application, this will mean you can NEVER sponsor her. If she wants to come to Canada after you have immigrated, then she will have to qualify to immigrate on her own. You will not be able to sponsor her.
That sounds very harsh.
People get separated, and then reunited...
Based on what can CIC refuse sponsorship application? What you say is not humane, and does not sound like the Canadian way...
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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London
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16-02-2013
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31-07-2013
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09-11-2013
Carmageddon said:
That sounds very harsh.
People get separated, and then reunited...
Based on what can CIC refuse sponsorship application? What you say is not humane, and does not sound like the Canadian way...
CIC have clear rules about this. It is harsh, deliberately, so that applicants take it very seriously. If you don't declare a formal relationship in the application it's considered to be misrepresentation which can lead to a 5 year ban from entry to Canada and further PR applications. It also automatically removes the omitted relationship from future sponsorship under Family Class. Google for "117(9)(d)" and "Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations".
 

Carmageddon

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Apr 19, 2012
300
8
123
Canada
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Rome
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
03.01.2016
Nomination.....
05.07.2016
AOR Received.
24.08.2016
Med's Done....
26.08.2016
Passport Req..
09.11.2016
VISA ISSUED...
21.11.2016
LANDED..........
19.04.2017
zardoz said:
CIC have clear rules about this. It is harsh, deliberately, so that applicants take it very seriously. If you don't declare a formal relationship in the application it's considered to be misrepresentation which can lead to a 5 year ban from entry to Canada and further PR applications. It also automatically removes the omitted relationship from future sponsorship under Family Class. Google for "117(9)(d)" and "Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations".
Thank you! now it is so much clearer, that I've read the clause for myself.
I guess this settles it.. our best hope is to go on the married path, and hope my points are enough.. will see by end of January.

Thanks Scylla as well :)