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mf4361 said:
But really, striking out a "star" politician, cabinet minister and incumbent by a large margin is quite a humiliation. Kudos to our Canadians friends in Ajax.
well Ajax was initiall liberal Chris Alexander took it from Holland but now he lost and he lost cause he didnt listen to people became very much like Harper. My way or highway kinda deal
 

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mf4361 said:
But really, striking out a "star" politician, cabinet minister and incumbent by a large margin is quite a humiliation. Kudos to our Canadians friends in Ajax.
The margin wasn't that bad. He lost because of the refugee thing, which i really don't support admitting them without proper security screening. I think the conservative had a good plan, they were just too stubborn to listen to people and make it clear to people.
 

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I think the conservative had a good plan
You Snooze You Lose.
 

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Any more recent news on what the Liberals plan to do on restoring time credit? I know before the law was changed, that we had 50% of time spent before PR that would have counted towards residency requirements (e.g, 3 years before PR would mean 1.5 years counted towards residency). Would be so good to have that back at the very least.
 

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MhamadK said:
You Snooze You Lose.
Exactly, it's an election. Let's wait and see if the Liberals deliver on their promise, remember it's all politics.
Btw how's your application going?
 

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cupcakes said:
Any more recent news on what the Liberals plan to do on restoring time credit? I know before the law was changed, that we had 50% of time spent before PR that would have counted towards residency requirements (e.g, 3 years before PR would mean 1.5 years counted towards residency). Would be so good to have that back at the very least.
I know its not easy, but do you have any source for that 50% theory?

I always thought that they wanted a specific number of days where you are physically in Canada. 1095 days in the last 5 years, before you can apply for citizenship. Or something like that.
 

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Btw how's your application going?
Going??? ;D ;D ;D ;D
It's not going anywhere. Waiting for them to drop below 450. And I am trying to understand what is required for a LMIA. How about you?
 

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The margin wasn't that bad. He lost because of the refugee thing, which i really don't support admitting them without proper security screening.
margin was not too bad. I dont think security screening was an issue. I dont believe any party would take in refugees without proper screening. I think security concerns were just to soften the blow on Conservatives. I think the emphases on security and niqab issue was seen by canadians as dark politics. I feel Conservative had a good stance they just focused on wrong side and were very stubborn. I think they got wrong advice of focusing on old stock canadians.

I think the conservative had a good plan, they were just too stubborn to listen to people and make it clear to people.
agreed good plan on refugee situation but they were stubborn and played dark politics. I feel they would have gained more if they would just explained that they will see what they can do and accept their mistake even though it may not be a mistake. But when Chris Alexander was asked question he became very agitated like in the CBC interview. Blaming CBC for not reporting was not a right move he lost his calm.
 

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I know its not easy, but do you have any source for that 50% theory?

I always thought that they wanted a specific number of days where you are physically in Canada. 1095 days in the last 5 years, before you can apply for citizenship. Or something like that.
thats what it was before they got rid of the time credit. People working on open work permits/pgwp's etc before having PR, the time they spent here was counted at a 50% rate ie 1 year=6 months when calculating towards residency requirements for citizenship. So I've been here 3 and a half years on a work permit, that would count as a bit over a year and a half for citizenship requirements if they bring back the same rules that were only abolished in June/July this year.
 

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mf4361 said:
But really, striking out a "star" politician, cabinet minister and incumbent by a large margin is quite a humiliation. Kudos to our Canadians friends in Ajax.
Can't agree more.
In the Canadian TV yesterday they called him "Mean and Nasty".
 

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mead said:
The margin wasn't that bad. He lost because of the refugee thing, which i really don't support admitting them without proper security screening.
margin was not too bad. I dont think security screening was an issue. I dont believe any party would take in refugees without proper screening. I think security concerns were just to soften the blow on Conservatives. I think the emphases on security and niqab issue was seen by canadians as dark politics. I feel Conservative had a good stance they just focused on wrong side and were very stubborn. I think they got wrong advice of focusing on old stock canadians.

I think the conservative had a good plan, they were just too stubborn to listen to people and make it clear to people.
agreed good plan on refugee situation but they were stubborn and played dark politics. I feel they would have gained more if they would just explained that they will see what they can do and accept their mistake even though it may not be a mistake. But when Chris Alexander was asked question he became very agitated like in the CBC interview. Blaming CBC for not reporting was not a right move he lost his calm.
I agree with you on most parts. However, not all politicians would put security screening of all refugees as priority. Take a look at the German PM, she just admit them without proper screening and now these same refugees are causing chaos in germany and raping girls here and there.
 

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MhamadK said:
Going??? ;D ;D ;D ;D
It's not going anywhere. Waiting for them to drop below 450. And I am trying to understand what is required for a LMIA. How about you?
Mine is still going :D. Don't worry i am sure yours will start soon.
 

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I agree with you on most parts. However, not all politicians would put security screening of all refugees as priority. Take a look at the German PM, she just admit them without proper screening and now these same refugees are causing chaos in germany and raping girls here and there.
no i was talking about canada not EU is a different animal. I feel all NDP , liberals would have kept in place all the security measures as Canada in most cases imitates US so security is not an issue. in EU they have no choice refugees are at the gates. in canada thats not the case
 

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Chris Alexander the minister who made the recent changes in the immigration system and created this EE complicated system is out of office and out of the house. He lost his set and his party lost the majority.
What's bad about the EE system !?? it's amazing. It's so easy to work with it online and processing time is way shorter than the old system !
 

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ETE said:
The margin wasn't that bad. He lost because of the refugee thing, which i really don't support admitting them without proper security screening. I think the conservative had a good plan, they were just too stubborn to listen to people and make it clear to people.
http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/results-2015/

56% vs. 35%. Alexander lost by 11972 votes.
For a competitive riding (Unlike rural prairies where cons could get like ~70%) and a high profile candidate, it's pretty high.

Canadian elections for some reason has unusually high counts of close elections. I was watching another riding in Regina, NDP wins by 143 votes (0.856%)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_close_election_results


Though it's true that Ajax is not a cons strong hold.