*BREAKING NEWS* - July 2011 = same 29 NOCs! 500 cap

[Cappuccino]

i might be misunderstood, but what i've learned upto now is even they say to reduce backlogs (& this is what they exactly said prior the MI II- just applied before 26june2010, & they did put all pre June2010 in backlog), they goona give priority to post july2011, and all the prior application will be backlogged, however will be tackled in the later days, only after the post july2011 application processing.

lamhey

Of course it is not impossible that June 2010 applicants will be de-prioritised, but the situation is completely different compared with the situation of June 2010 versus pre-June-2010.

pre-June-2010 there were 144,000 applications many of whom did not have in-demand occupation experience, at the time those were de-prioritised.

Post-June-2010 have only 14,000 applications (some of whom will already have their visas or be very close) and ALL of them still have valid in-demand occupation experience.

Therefore my belief (which of course, may be proven wrong! ) is that post-June-2010 and post-July-2011 will be treated as equal priority, at least until such a time as they decide to amend the in-demand occupation list.

Wayne.

 

[lamhey]

Of course it is not impossible that June 2010 applicants will be de-prioritised, but the situation is completely different compared with the situation of June 2010 versus pre-June-2010.

pre-June-2010 there were 144,000 applications many of whom did not have in-demand occupation experience, at the time those were de-prioritised.

Post-June-2010 have only 14,000 applications (some of whom will already have their visas or be very close) and ALL of them still have valid in-demand occupation experience.

Therefore my belief (which of course, may be proven wrong! ) is that post-June-2010 and post-July-2011 will be treated as equal priority, at least until such a time as they decide to amend the in-demand occupation list.

Wayne.

it should be noted that after MI II they prioritized only post june 10 application REGARDLESS OF NOC list. Those who were still in 29 noc list, & have already submitted full doc. were NOT treated as the demand occupation list (for ex. pharmacist, architect, etc.). So, my strong belief is that they only give prioritize for those with the new ministerial instructions, regardless of in-demand list which goona happen after 1st july 2011.

lamhey

 

[Cappuccino]

it should be noted that after MI II they prioritized only post june 10 application REGARDLESS OF NOC list. Those who were still in 29 noc list, & have already submitted full doc. were NOT treated as the demand occupation list (for ex. pharmacist, architect, etc.). So, my strong belief is that they only give prioritize for those with the new ministerial instructions, regardless of in-demand list which goona happen after 1st july 2011.

lamhey

That's because SOME of the occupations had changed, and it was logistically difficult to hand-pick some applications out of a massive 144,000 pool.

With this case NONE of occupations have changed, so every single post-June-2010 FSW1 applicant is still "in-demand" and there is no need for sorting of hand-picking of applications, which is why I believe the priority will not change, and that post-June-2010 and post-July-2011 will all be treated equally in the order the application arrived.

But, as I said, this is only my personal belief and I may be proven wrong

Wayne.

 

[lamhey]

That's because SOME of the occupations had changed, and it was logistically difficult to hand-pick some applications out of a massive 144,000 pool.

With this case NONE of occupations have changed, so every single post-June-2010 FSW1 applicant is still "in-demand" and there is no need for sorting of hand-picking of applications, which is why I believe the priority will not change, and that post-June-2010 and post-July-2011 will all be treated equally in the order the application arrived.

But, as I said, this is only my personal belief and I may be proven wrong

Wayne.

im just talking about what the history has showed, and what the new trend will be.

if there are new instructions, then they will be definitely giving priority to the new applications (bcoz of the instructions and point systems basis).

lamhey

PS: and i really don't think they didn't wanted to sortout on noc list basis for pre june 2010, but the truth is they are bound to work under new instructions, ie MI II.

 

[canlove]

As we all are taking it as a good news but I think, CIC really hasn't done very much. by lowering the cap to 10,000 is not as impressive as it seems,according to its website, since last June 26th, fewer than 14,000 new applications were received. In other words, the real increase for languishing applicants is less than 4,000 -- hardly enough to make a dent in the backlog and more importantly, the processing priority remains the same. Thus, those who apply from July 1st onward will be assessed first; then those who applied since last June 26th; then those who applied after 27 February 2007 and finally, those who applied before 27 February 2008. I doubt that the 4,000 spaces will get beyond those who applied since last June 26th.
below i prepared the projected data and it doesn't seem any good.Do you think it will make any difference for backlog

I agree with you, it’s not as good as it seems. We were expecting them to take some concrete steps towards clearing backlog but it looks as if they are again giving false hope as they did earlier; still there is a long wait for pre june applicants. Well coming months only will tell what is actually they are going to do but yes this is the high time to address the backlog.

 

[canlove]

im just talking about what the history has showed, and what the new trend will be.

if there are new instructions, then they will be definitely giving priority to the new applications (bcoz of the instructions and point systems basis).

lamhey

PS: and i really don't think they didn't wanted to sortout on noc list basis for pre june 2010, but the truth is they are bound to work under new instructions, ie MI II.

That's because SOME of the occupations had changed, and it was logistically difficult to hand-pick some applications out of a massive 144,000 pool.

With this case NONE of occupations have changed, so every single post-June-2010 FSW1 applicant is still "in-demand" and there is no need for sorting of hand-picking of applications, which is why I believe the priority will not change, and that post-June-2010 and post-July-2011 will all be treated equally in the order the application arrived.

But, as I said, this is only my personal belief and I may be proven wrong

Wayne.

CIC always works as per MI and they dont work as per demand list, backlog is a big example of their working. do you think pre feb2008 applicants and pre june apps dont have NOC of 29 occupation ...yes there must be enough applications are already with CIC from demand list but they work as per MI. that is only reason people are applying again for fast processing of their application.
As far as hand pick off applications are concerned...they have all data online do you think they still need to hand pick them. They can filter data for demanded NOC and can process them accordingly. i dont feel this a tough job for 3rd world country like canada where technology is very advanced.

 

[pittabread]

it should be noted that after MI II they prioritized only post june 10 application REGARDLESS OF NOC list. Those who were still in 29 noc list, & have already submitted full doc. were NOT treated as the demand occupation list (for ex. pharmacist, architect, etc.). So, my strong belief is that they only give prioritize for those with the new ministerial instructions, regardless of in-demand list which goona happen after 1st july 2011.

lamhey

agreed.......... new priority will be given to post july 2011 applicants as new rules will be in force regardless noc list remains the same as post june 2011

 

[pittabread]

I agree with you, it's not as good as it seems. We were expecting them to take some concrete steps towards clearing backlog but it looks as if they are again giving false hope as they did earlier; still there is a long wait for pre june applicants. Well coming months only will tell what is actually they are going to do but yes this is the high time to address the backlog.

agreed........... new rules wont make much difference.........

 

[ADUFE]

That's because SOME of the occupations had changed, and it was logistically difficult to hand-pick some applications out of a massive 144,000 pool.

With this case NONE of occupations have changed, so every single post-June-2010 FSW1 applicant is still "in-demand" and there is no need for sorting of hand-picking of applications, which is why I believe the priority will not change, and that post-June-2010 and post-July-2011 will all be treated equally in the order the application arrived.

But, as I said, this is only my personal belief and I may be proven wrong

Wayne.
What's with this "hand-picking" you're always talking about? This is the digital age and they do not have to hand-pick anything, all they have to do is go through their computer data base and retrieve any info on any applicant they require at the click of a button. ;D Also, the so-called "massive144,000 pool" is spread all over the globe so it's not like the so-called pool is in one visa office. ;D

 

[thebeast184]

Guys,

This was already publish in the Gazette. So I beleive there is NO change in priorities.

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2011/2011-06-25/html/notice-avis-eng.html

Rod

 

[canada_dream100]

Guys,

This was already publish in the Gazette. So I beleive there is NO change in priorities.

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2011/2011-06-25/html/notice-avis-eng.html

Rod

Can you please help to understand your statement??? You guess that no change in priorities means that no changes in point system or something else.

 

[marvinmadrid2003]

i have a question, we submitted our papers last may 30,2011 and hoping to catch up for the specialist physician this 2011, however right now the number of cap is already 976 and we have not receive any reply yet on our emails, if ever the cap reached for specialist physician will our application will now be move to the new rules this coming july 2011... thank you so much if you can help me on this

 

[pittabread]

Guys,

This was already publish in the Gazette. So I beleive there is NO change in priorities.

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2011/2011-06-25/html/notice-avis-eng.html

Rod

It doesn't talk about any application processing priorities. Priorities come from minister who tells CIC to process first, either post july 2011, post june 2010 or pre june 2010 etc applications and these instructions can be issued any time when minister feels like doing that. So it can happen that sooner or later minister issues instructions to process post july 2011 applications first, like what they did in the past and they gave priority to post june 2010 applicants.

Thanks

 

[Teaspoon]

It doesn't talk about any application processing priorities. Priorities come from minister who tells CIC to process first, either post july 2011, post june 2010 or pre june 2010 etc applications and these instructions can be issued any time when minister feels like doing that. So it can happen that sooner or later minister issues instructions to process post july 2011 applications first, like what they did in the past and they gave priority to post june 2010 applicants.

Thanks

HE IS RIGHT , IT IS COMPLETELY DEPENDS ON THE MINISTERIAL INSTRUCTIONS PROVIDED TO NHQ ( national head quarter, OTTAWA) to set the priority !

so it is completely depends on the minster

 

[bogarka]

HI Capuccino


I got my 2nd AOR on the 12th of Aug 2010.My ecas shows in process but with pending review inside.
Do you think London Vo will process our application this year or early next year?

Thank you