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jahangirit said:
Dear Qorax:

I am requesting you, please don't misguide people.

All pre MI-1 applicants are in deep trouble now; their dreams are going to be ended !
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I fail to see how Qorax has misguided anyone, or how you feel the MI-1 applicants will be directly affected by this?

Bill C-38 refers specifically to applicants received prior to Feb 2008. MI-1 (i.e. Feb 2008 to June 2010), at least at the moment, are not in danger of being scrapped, and currently they should all be fairly processed.

Wayne.
 

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I think it is waived
I. Information regarding points is deleted in CAIPS for applicants whose interviews
are waived
Recognizing that the CAIPS system was designed at a time where most applicants were
asked for an interview, the database did not capture selection decisions for people who were
not interviewed. With the new regulations, the majority of applicants are not interviewed as
part of the selection process. Therefore, the information regarding selection decisions is lost
in the CAIPS system. This makes it difficult to assess the impact of the selection criteria.
When the Global Case Management System (GCMS) is implemented, the system should be
designed in a way that such information is kept for further analysis.


Information regarding points
is deleted in CAIPS for
applicants whose interviews
are waived. This makes it
difficult to assess the impact
of the selection criteria.
CIC agrees with this finding.  CIC is in the process of rolling out a new case
processing system, Global Case Management System
(GCMS), which will be fully implemented by the end of
March 2011.
 The data deletion issue will not occur under GCMS.
 Missions will process new cases in GCMS and
complete processing of existing cases in CAIPS. It will
vary by mission how long it takes to move fully to
GCMS.
 CAIPS will be phased out after the full implementation
of GCMS.
GCMS/
CVOAs
GCMS Q1-
2011
CAIPS
Phase-out




Q4. What does a "decision based on selection criteria" mean?

A "decision based on selection criteria" means that an immigration officer:

has assessed your FSW application against the points grid, and
has made a decision on whether or not you meet the selection criteria of the program.
Currently, the pass mark is 67 points out of a grid worth 100 points. The grid considers the person’s:

ability in English and/or French
education
work experience
age
whether they have a job already arranged in Canada (arranged employment), and
how well they might adapt to living in Canada (which awards points for things like previous work or study in Canada, spouse’s education and relatives in Canada).
If your application is successful, you would move to the next phase (i.e. admissibility). At that point you would be checked against health, security and criminality requirements before being allowed to enter Canada.

If you do not score at least 67 on the FSW points grid, your application would be refused and CIC would inform you of the decision.



I tried many times to post the links to the above information but it is not allowed
 

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noon said:
I. Information regarding points is deleted in CAIPS for applicants whose interviews
are waived
Recognizing that the CAIPS system was designed at a time where most applicants were
asked for an interview, the database did not capture selection decisions for people who were
not interviewed. With the new regulations, the majority of applicants are not interviewed as
part of the selection process. Therefore, the information regarding selection decisions is lost
in the CAIPS system. This makes it difficult to assess the impact of the selection criteria.
When the Global Case Management System (GCMS) is implemented, the system should be
designed in a way that such information is kept for further analysis.


Information regarding points
is deleted in CAIPS for
applicants whose interviews
are waived. This makes it
difficult to assess the impact
of the selection criteria.
CIC agrees with this finding.  CIC is in the process of rolling out a new case
processing system, Global Case Management System
(GCMS), which will be fully implemented by the end of
March 2011.
 The data deletion issue will not occur under GCMS.
 Missions will process new cases in GCMS and
complete processing of existing cases in CAIPS. It will
vary by mission how long it takes to move fully to
GCMS.
 CAIPS will be phased out after the full implementation
of GCMS.
GCMS/
CVOAs
GCMS Q1-
2011
CAIPS
Phase-out




Q4. What does a "decision based on selection criteria" mean?

A "decision based on selection criteria" means that an immigration officer:

has assessed your FSW application against the points grid, and
has made a decision on whether or not you meet the selection criteria of the program.
Currently, the pass mark is 67 points out of a grid worth 100 points. The grid considers the person's:

ability in English and/or French
education
work experience
age
whether they have a job already arranged in Canada (arranged employment), and
how well they might adapt to living in Canada (which awards points for things like previous work or study in Canada, spouse's education and relatives in Canada).
If your application is successful, you would move to the next phase (i.e. admissibility). At that point you would be checked against health, security and criminality requirements before being allowed to enter Canada.

If you do not score at least 67 on the FSW points grid, your application would be refused and CIC would inform you of the decision.



I tried many times to post the links to the above information but it is not allowed

Thanks for your post.
 

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its Selection Decision, not Selection Criteria.
Pre Feb 2008 applicants waiting now and failed to pass SELDEC 1 will be chopped off the list.
 

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jnathan said:
its Selection Decision, not Selection Criteria.
Pre Feb 2008 applicants waiting now and failed to pass SELDEC 1 will be chopped off the list.
Dear friend,

What about seldec 04?
 

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sel dec means selection decision, basically whether or not the i/o approves your case for a visa, security and medical checks go after.

T-12 SELECTION DECISION (SELDEC)

1 passed
2 passed on discretion
3 OIC required (pro-Proclamation cases)
4 waived
5 failed
6 failed on discretion
7 withdrawn
S passed (H & C consideration) (for Refugees only)



SELDEC 4

it should mean that sel dec is not required for your case, which is a good thing.
 

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jnathan said:
sel dec means selection decision, basically whether or not the i/o approves your case for a visa, security and medical checks go after.

T-12 SELECTION DECISION (SELDEC)

1 passed
2 passed on discretion
3 OIC required (pro-Proclamation cases)
4 waived
5 failed
6 failed on discretion
7 withdrawn
S passed (H & C consideration) (for Refugees only)



SELDEC 4

it should mean that sel dec is not required for your case, which is a good thing.
Hi,

I beg to differ from you here .I have read many times that SELDEC = 4 (waived ) means that the decision has not been taken yet (pending) as the VO is waiting for some BG/security checks or for any other additional information/docs from the applicant/any other organization.
 

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Qorax says something else

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/seldec-1-4-t107481.0.html
 

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newcomer said:
Hi,

I beg to differ from you here .I have read many times that SELDEC = 4 (waived ) means that the decision has not been taken yet (pending) as the VO is waiting for some BG/security checks or for any other additional information/docs from the applicant/any other organization.
Correct, SELDEC = 4 (waived ) means that the decision has not been taken yet (pending). Not waived.
 

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Badal789 said:
Correct, SELDEC = 4 (waived ) means that the decision has not been taken yet (pending). Not waived.
********
..Waived but not waived ! :-\ What kind of conclusion is that?
 

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jnathan said:
its Selection Decision, not Selection Criteria.
Pre Feb 2008 applicants waiting now and failed to pass SELDEC 1 will be chopped off the list.


jnathan:

Again you are misguiding others.
Listen don't draw conclusion from surface !!

Always give reference...

jahangir
 

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unable to understand the selection criteria,wait
and see.
 

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http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2012/ob413.asp

Budget 2012 (Economic Action Plan 2012) proposes to eliminate the backlog in the Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) Program by terminating certain applications made prior to February 27, 2008. Applicants whose application would be terminated as a result will have the fees paid to CIC returned to them.


As such, CIC has instructed all its local managers to continue with the processing of all FSW applications, including those made prior to 27 Feb. 2008, until the budget bill is passed and the mentioned proposal comes into effect. Update: Budget Bill is now passed.

http://www.betterlifeimmigration.ca/visitnews.asp


Q1. Why do you propose removing the FSW backlog?

Q4. What does a "decision based on selection criteria" mean?
A "decision based on selection criteria" means that an immigration officer:

has assessed your FSW application against the points grid, and
has made a decision on whether or not you meet the selection criteria of the program.


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/notice-qa.asp


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Can this happen?

"During question period, Kenney said the government is reviewing the court decision, but added it would be impossible to process the applications without allowing the backlog to grow.

In any case, Bill C38, once passed [now it has been], gives the immigration minister the power to "hit the delete button" on the backlog and eliminate applications against whom a decision has not yet been made, arbitrarily.

"Thursday's decision by Federal Court Justice Donald Rennie said that while the minister has the power to determine which applications are ineligible, he has a responsibility to ensure those that are 'eligible' are indeed 'properly handled'.

The problem is in the connotation of what is 'eligible'? As per CIC & IRPA unless a case successfully 'completes' it's b/ground & security checks it's not 'eligible' for PR. PSDEC-1 only suggests 'provisionally accepted for further processing' based on the correctness of documents submitted [only], and our b/ground checks commence from there. A "decision" to proceed further with any application is the SELDEC-1, if not a "DM" altogether.Does the bill C38 seem unjustifiable to the global masses? --YES. Does it sound a reckless attempt to thwart the backlog to us? --YES. Will it pave way towards many litigations [the Australian way]? --YES. Is is very controversial? --YES, u bet! But, let us be practical guys, the "delete button" is a reality now... How future litigations will affect it [will/can it be reversed], doesn't seem to be possible, at least in the near future.

Qorax

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Tories' omnibus budget bill passes Commons

Controversial legislation headed to Senate

By Bruce Cheadle, Canadian Press June 19, 2012


Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Tories+omnibus+budget+bill+passes+Commons/6804436/story.html#ixzz1ylN7cLpr

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http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/14/bill-c-38-vote-omnibus-budget-bill-tories_n_1595679.html



Among the other changes proposed in C-38 is the elimination of a backlog of nearly 280,000 applications filed by foreigners before 2008 wanting to become federal skilled workers

http://www.canada.com/health/primer+Harper+government+omnibus+budget+bill/6765412/story.html


The elimination of this old backlog, covering roughly 280,000 FSW applicants, will allow us to focus completely on applications more in tune with today's economic needs.

CIC's website

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Hot Debate at the Parliament Session Between NDP Critic Jenny Sims and Minister kenney



http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/critics-take-immigration-minister-to-task-for-application-backlog-159229065.html

Bottom Line:

During question period, Kenney said the government is reviewing the court decision, but added it would be impossible to process the applications without allowing the backlog to grow.