9th Draw Fingers Crossed - Hopefully we see CRS points below 450pts

[kriscan]

i got the info,
9th draw on 23rd May cut off was 755

 

[TRUENORTH_4M_C2C]

anybody think there would be a draw next Friday?

And before that we need to change the topic from 9th draw to 10th draw..

 

[9145]

Before Express Entry, anyone who wanted to immigrate to Canada through one of the economic programs should have to qualify for at least one of them: FSW, FST, PNP or CEC. Each one had (and still has) its own requirements.

Since January, CIC created the Express Entry program and ceased direct application to those economic programs. Now, you must apply for EE, wait for an ITA and only then you can apply for FSW, FST, CEC or PNP, according to the requirements met. So, EE is just a gateway for those programs. According to you EE profile, the system automatically tells you which of those 4 programs you can eventually apply for when you get the ITA.

Being eligible means you've met the requirements for at least one of those economic programs. But you still have to wait for the ITA to be able to apply for any of them.

CIC does not release any info about future draws. No one knows when there will be a draw.

All this information is available at CIC's website. I suggest you take some time and read it, there's much more info that every candidate should know.

Hey, thank you, thank you very much for providing me a clear picture. 755 points wow, they must be following a lottery method for coming to that score.

 

[kateg]

Hey, thank you, thank you very much for providing me a clear picture. 755 points wow, they must be following a lottery method for coming to that score.

They pick a target number of people for the round. They then determine the score needed to get that many people.

 

[mf4361]

They pick a target number of people for the round. They then determine the score needed to get that many people.

We don't know that actually. They have full access to the pool, and they can pre-determine the min points they want, and find out how much ITA issues to reach that number. Not that they definitely will, but the logic can go both way.

 

[CanadianDreams419]

Like I said elsewhere...

Like everyone else, I've been following the draws closely and my observation is that is that if the assumption on the low end is that +/- 10% of the immigrants to Canada will come from the pool that works out to about +/- 25,000 people. In theory the CIC can make 2 draws a month ranging from 1000 to 2000 selections each draw (so averaging 1500 each bi-monthly draw or 3000 ITAs a month) and they will meet their quota. So strategically they have no incentive to rush to bring score down. Making small bi-monthly selections allows as many people to enter pool (so for example those with great scores but waiting for WES or something). Over 6 month period CIC just selects the best of the best as indicated by score. It's a brilliant recruitment technique

Thoughts ?

 

[mf4361]

You're right. That's true as long as they don't need to meet the entire immigration target from Express Entry draws - which is the case currently due to the backlog from pre-EE days.

As soon as the backlog is cleared and all FSW, FST and CEC applicants have to come through EE, they will have to draw a certain number of people each month, or they won't be able to meet their target.

So, eventually the number of ITAs will determine the cut-off score and not the other way around.

If you have read on how immigration targets were reported, you would understand why total ITA in 2015 would not equal to total target in 2015

Target is determined by people who landed in 2015, not applied in 2015. So applications in 2014 will most likely be issued PR in 2015 (If not 2016). And because of 6 months process time under EE, people who applied in later part of 2015 will get PR in 2016, and thus not included in target of 2015.

 

[mf4361]

Sure. But that doesn't contradict anything I said in my previous post...

What I meant was even CIC follows their target of 130k economic class immigrants in 2015 doesn't automatically translate to 130k ITA issues this year

 

[lovesumi]

There are no 2 pools. All applications of 2014 were returned once the quota was full.
Others for whom the applications was recieved before quota was full, they are through (provided they meet the criteria), just that their processing is slow

 

[lovesumi]

Yeah, but last year's applicants won't eat up in this year's quota, atleast that's what i understand

 

[alok4best]

Yeah, but last year's applicants won't eat up in this year's quota, atleast that's what i understand

Yup, you're correct. The quota for 2014 was frozen on 31st Dec.
Under the old FSW program, some NOCs got capped long before the deadline.
For others, the applications were returned even if the cap was not full.
People were asked to apply under EE instead.

If anything, a lot of slots got wasted last year.

 

[munjal]

Yup, you're correct. The quota for 2014 was frozen on 31st Dec.
Under the old FSW program, some NOCs got capped long before the deadline.
For others, the applications were returned even if the cap was not full.
People were asked to apply under EE instead.

If anything, a lot of slots got wasted last year.

That's deadly true fact..
Lets take example of NOC 0121: Insurance, real estate and broker managers..
This NOC code received only 185 completed applications against total quota of 1000 cap for FSW 2014.
The same might be for other NOCs too which were not filled in completely as per the application quota.