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Jamestoca

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Aug 29, 2015
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Hi everyone!!!

My brother arrived in Canada as a visitor and he already applied for Self-Employed application. However, he would like to get an Work Permit and start to work in Canada while his application is running. Does anyone knows if is possible he apply for a work permit and work whereas his application is running?

Thank you guys!
 
He would need to find an employer who is willing to offer him a full time job. That employer will then have to obtain an approved LMIA (permission to hire a foreign worker). Your brother will then be able to apply for a closed work permit tied to that specific employer.
 
scylla said:
He would need to find an employer who is willing to offer him a full time job. That employer will then have to obtain an approved LMIA (permission to hire a foreign worker). Your brother will then be able to apply for a closed work permit tied to that specific employer.

Thank you for answer me.

I understand, he already found out an employer which would give to him this job and would provide an approved LMIA for him. However, the job is not related about his application (Cultural activities). Consequently, do you think it would harm his application if he work on this different job?
 
I suppose it's possible it might - I don't really know.

Self employed applications tend to take years to process and CIC will sometimes request updates from applicants. If your brother in no longer engaged in that occupation I suppose it's entirely possible CIC may question if he still qualifies under that category.
 
scylla said:
I suppose it's possible it might - I don't really know.

Self employed applications tend to take years to process and CIC will sometimes request updates from applicants. If your brother in no longer engaged in that occupation I suppose it's entirely possible CIC may question if he still qualifies under that category.

Well, are you sure it tend to take years? Because we saw at processing times which in Brazil (country which he applied) it would take 'till 9 months.... Anyway, he is no longer engaged on his last occupation because he is now here in Canada, but of course, he still knows his skills to work if he back to work at the same old occupation which he used to apply for. Thus, if CIC question him about his qualification under that category he can prove that he still capable to work.

Thank you
 
Jamestoca said:
Well, are you sure it tend to take years? Because we saw at processing times which in Brazil (country which he applied) it would take 'till 9 months.... Anyway, he is no longer engaged on his last occupation because he is now here in Canada, but of course, he still knows his skills to work if he back to work at the same old occupation which he used to apply for. Thus, if CIC question him about his qualification under that category he can prove that he still capable to work.

Thank you

I'm not sure where you saw that processing time. He applied through the Federal Self-Employed class, correct? That tends to be several years (4+) - not a few months. I think you may have been looking at the processing times for the Federal Skilled Worker (rather than Self Employed). FSW is significantly faster. As of now, CIC is showing 111 (yes, one hundred and eleven) months for self-employed.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/index.asp
 
scylla said:
I'm not sure where you saw that processing time. He applied through the Federal Self-Employed class, correct? That tends to be several years (4+) - not a few months. I think you may have been looking at the processing times for the Federal Skilled Worker (rather than Self Employed). FSW is significantly faster. As of now, CIC is showing 111 (yes, one hundred and eleven) months for self-employed.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/index.asp

Man, that's awful, they've modified yesterday "2016/01/05", you can notice at the bottom of the page.... Before, there were available for checking processing times by office in each country!! In Brazil it would takes 9 months, I'm 100% sure of it. They changed! It makes no sense now!
 
Jamestoca said:
Man, that's awful, they've modified yesterday "2016/01/05", you can notice at the bottom of the page.... Before, there were available for checking processing times by office in each country!! In Brazil it would takes 9 months, I'm 100% sure of it. They changed! It makes no sense now!

I still think you're mistaken (although it's possible I'm wrong). To the best of my knowledge all of the self-employed processing times were a few years minimum. In fact, for self employed, the vast majority of visa offices didn't even display a processing time since so few applications are received and the processing times are so long that any averages are very difficult to calculate.
 
scylla said:
I still think you're mistaken (although it's possible I'm wrong). To the best of my knowledge all of the self-employed processing times were a few years minimum. In fact, for self employed, the vast majority of visa offices didn't even display a processing time since so few applications are received and the processing times are so long that any averages are very difficult to calculate.

Well, I'm 101% that I am sure that application for Self-Employed - Economic class in Brazil the regular processing times was 9 months. Maybe could be a few years in others offices like in Egypt, and Trinindad which showed before more than 9 months, maybe years. There were a list by processing times before, which you could check, no matter program you were applying for, and you could see your processing times by visa offices. Now they changed, and I don't know why. Nonetheless, maybe they're are still doing changes, because if you take a look in Self-Empoyed for Quebec, it does not show any months.
 
Jamestoca said:
Well, I'm 101% that I am sure that application for Self-Employed - Economic class in Brazil the regular processing times was 9 months. Maybe could be a few years in others offices like in Egypt, and Trinindad which showed before more than 9 months, maybe years. There were a list by processing times before, which you could check, no matter program you were applying for, and you could see your processing times by visa offices. Now they changed, and I don't know why. Nonetheless, maybe they're are still doing changes, because if you take a look in Self-Empoyed for Quebec, it does not show any months.

I know which old table you are referring to. If you were looking at the right one (i.e. self employed vs. skilled worker) - processing times for most visa offices would have been n/a or blank - with just a small percentage populated. Ankara (for example) was showing 97 months. Sadly the old table is no longer posted.
 
I really do think you may have been looking at the wrong table. Based on a post from PMM from earlier this year, the shortest posted processing time for self-employed was 17 months.
 
scylla said:
I really do think you may have been looking at the wrong table. Based on a post from PMM from earlier this year, the shortest posted processing time for self-employed was 17 months.

Maybe you are right, but let's hope it does not take too long!! anyway! My brother will need to work and do something to help the Government (is what they want! taxes!) and him self, of course! lol, until he be approved (hopefully). This was our main concern! if while applying for his Self-Employed, he also could apply for Work Permit.
 
Jamestoca said:
Maybe you are right, but let's hope it does not take too long!! anyway! My brother will need to work and do something to help the Government (is what they want! taxes!) and him self, of course! lol, until he be approved (hopefully). This was our main concern! if while applying for his Self-Employed, he also could apply for Work Permit.

Yes - he can certainly apply for a work permit. If he qualifies, he should seriously consider putting his name into the Express Entry / Federal Skilled Worker pool. It's not always that easy to be accepted under self employment (sometimes CIC doesn't believe what you can contribute is culturally significant enough). If he really wants to move to Canada I would explore other options as well.
 
scylla said:
Yes - he can certainly apply for a work permit. If he qualifies, he should seriously consider putting his name into the Express Entry / Federal Skilled Worker pool. It's not always that easy to be accepted under self employment (sometimes CIC doesn't believe what you can contribute is culturally significant enough). If he really wants to move to Canada I would explore other options as well.

Yes, certainly he will do it instead of carry on wait for his application, It would make any sense if he stay here in Canada waiting for his application without do nothing. Once he gets his work permit and begins to work, he will try to apply by one of these alternatives. Thank you so much for help me!