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Why is sponsorship INLAND so much longer than OUTLAND?

Romeo

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May 14, 2013
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eg. for sponsor assessment something like 2 months for outland and 17 months for inland???? Does that even make any sense. WHY?? ???
 

truesmile

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It certainly makes sense that they are not equal. Now I'm not speaking on behalf of the government but . . . Priorities, priorities. In the context of family reunification, inland applicants have already been reunited with their spouse. However, in light of the discrepancy in time-lines, hence the suggestion from CIC to potential inland applicants to submit an outland application.
 

DanSlh

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17-04-2015
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Because the family is already united when inland processing.
 

GustavesF

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It's because CIC is lazy and inefficient.

If they really were worried about prioritizing those not united with their family then they wouldn't allow Visa exempt people people living in Canada to apply Outland.

8 months of processing vs 2 months of processing I can see, but allowing that 8 to slip to 17 is just pathetic. The reason behind that is laziness and inefficiency.
 

screech339

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Apr 2, 2013
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Priority is placed on outland application on the premise that the couples are separated and thus need to bring them together ASAP. Whereas those applying inland are already united and together thus they are not placed high in priorities over those outland application. While the inland timeline is terrible and unjustified, the outland applicants always has higher priorities. Always has been and always will.
 

Estifanos2013

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Jan 6, 2015
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Google for CIC budget and priorities. You will see the ministry is doing budget cuts in multiple departments, this was never a secret. This was a plan back in 2014 for 2014-2016.
cic.gc.ca/english/resources/publications/rpp/2014-2015/index.asp

Outland workforce in visa offices consists of both unionized Canadian employees and local non-unionized workforce. Inland consists of unionized employees in-Canada only.
Therefore Inland workforce is more expensive and is more likely to be cut.
My guess is some inland workforce was also shifted from inland to other programs like TFW and Express Entry.

As of now few CIC workforce working on inland program really.
 

truesmile

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Med's Done....
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Interview........
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08-01-2013
LANDED..........
02-02-2013
GustavesF said:
It's because CIC is lazy and inefficient.

If they really were worried about prioritizing those not united with their family then they wouldn't allow Visa exempt people to apply Outland.

8 months of processing vs 2 months of processing I can see, but allowing that 8 to slip to 17 is just pathetic. The reason behind that is laziness and inefficiency.
That would leave visa exempt spouses that do not live in Canada absolutely no way of applying . . .

(think before you speak)
 

screech339

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20-11-2012
Med's Done....
18-07-2012
Interview........
17-06-2013
LANDED..........
17-06-2013
truesmile said:
That would leave visa exempt spouses that do not live in Canada absolutely no way of applying . . .

(think before you speak)
+1 for your comment.
 

SchnookoLoly

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21 Aug 2012
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08 Dec 2012
+1 from me as well!
 

bigredmoose

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Dec 6, 2014
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App. Filed.......
30-10-2014
AOR Received.
24-12-2014
File Transfer...
06-01-2015
Med's Done....
07-10-2014
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
31/03/2015
VISA ISSUED...
27/04/2015 (COPR)
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08/07/2015
screech339 said:
+1 for your comment.
Same - I had a whole thing typed up in response, but gave up.
 

DanSlh

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Dec 24, 2014
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Brazil
Category........
Visa Office......
Sao Paulo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-03-2015
AOR Received.
17-04-2015
File Transfer...
07-05-2015 AOR2............: 15-05-2015
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
19-02-2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
22-06-2015
VISA ISSUED...
25-06-2015
LANDED..........
02-07-2015
truesmile said:
That would leave visa exempt spouses that do not live in Canada absolutely no way of applying . . .

(think before you speak)
...And we can close the topic now
 

Ponga

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Romeo said:
eg. for sponsor assessment something like 2 months for outland and 17 months for inland???? Does that even make any sense. WHY?? ???
Another VALID reason, is because for an OUTLAND application, the first stage approval (which you say is 2 months) is ONLY the approval of the sponsor, which is known as SA.

An Inland application's first stage approval is known as AIP (Approval in Principle) because it is a combination of the sponsor approval + the assessment of the applicant's relationship with the sponsor. For an Outand applicant, the relationship is assessed during the second stage.

It's important for you to understand this critical difference between the two.
 

SchnookoLoly

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Mar 5, 2012
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25 Jan 2012
File Transfer...
24 Apr 2012
Passport Req..
26 Jun 2012
VISA ISSUED...
21 Aug 2012
LANDED..........
08 Dec 2012
Ponga said:
Another VALID reason, is because for an OUTLAND application, the first stage approval (which you say is 2 months) is ONLY the approval of the sponsor, which is known as SA.

An Inland application's first stage approval is known as AIP (Approval in Principle) because it is a combination of the sponsor approval + the assessment of the applicant's relationship with the sponsor. For an Outand applicant, the relationship is assessed during the second stage.

It's important for you to understand this critical difference between the two.
You rock. :)
 

GustavesF

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truesmile said:
That would leave visa exempt spouses that do not live in Canada absolutely no way of applying . . .

(think before you speak)
Sorry about that. I mean to say "wouldn't allow people living in Canada to apply outland". Tried to use fancy terms.

I'm just bitter about the whole thing.

Anyway, I thoroughly believe the actual reason is the one Estifanos2013 posted. Unionized Canadian employees cost too much.