what kind of managerial skills from an Accountant???

[sikanderkhan]

Hi members
I am applying under NOC-1111 and i have seen here,in this forum,that many people say that in order to prevent your case from rejection,you should mention your duties or job descriptions as of a manager.
All members here advice people who have got rejection that they should have mentioned managerial duties..
and i am afraid what kind of managerial duties are we expected to show in NOC-1111 as an accountant?
any help is appreciated.

Thanks

 

[rupeshhari]

By definition 1111 is not manager. 0111 is manager.

 

[sikanderkhan]

yes that is why i am worried. because i don't know what managerial duties need to be mentioned and i find it difficult to think about. I am confused :-\

 

[rupeshhari]

why worried? cause if you are applying as 1111, i dont think you need to show managerial duties. Wait for others to reply i guess.

 

[sikanderkhan]

any help?

 

[charmeuse]

It is probably for 0213 that you saw the need to show managerial duties. For 1111, does the job description at the NOC website include managerial skills? If they don't, you don't need to worry.

 

[sikanderkhan]

It is probably for 0213 that you saw the need to show managerial duties. For 1111, does the job description at the NOC website include managerial skills? If they don't, you don't need to worry.

Most of the duties don't mention the managerial requirement but the last one says .
• May supervise and train articling students, other accountants or administrative technicians.
so i think it does include managerial skills,though im waiting for the replies of the same NOC people..
Thanks

 

[sikanderkhan]

???

 

[charmeuse]

'may' is not a 'must', so you don't need to worry. Relax!

 

[rocky272727]

Hi members
I am applying under NOC-1111 and i have seen here,in this forum,that many people say that in order to prevent your case from rejection,you should mention your duties or job descriptions as of a manager.
All members here advice people who have got rejection that they should have mentioned managerial duties..
and i am afraid what kind of managerial duties are we expected to show in NOC-1111 as an accountant?
any help is appreciated.

Thanks

This is the requirement for NOC 111 Source : http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2006/QuickSearch.aspx?val65=1111
1111 Financial Auditors and Accountants

Financial auditors examine and analyze the accounting and financial records of individuals and establishments to ensure accuracy and compliance with established accounting standards and procedures. Accountants plan, organize and administer accounting systems for individuals and establishments. Articling students in accounting firms are included in this unit group. Financial auditors and accountants are employed by auditing and accounting firms throughout the private and public sectors, or they may be self-employed.

Example Titles

accountant
certified general accountant (CGA)
certified management accountant (CMA)
chartered accountant (CA)
chief accountant
financial auditor
income tax expert
industrial accountant
internal auditor

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Main duties

Financial auditors perform some or all of the following duties:
Examine and analyze journal and ledger entries, bank statements, inventories, expenditures, tax returns and other accounting and financial records, documents and systems of an individual, department, company or other establishment to ensure financial recording accuracy and compliance with established accounting standards, procedures and internal controls
Prepare detailed reports on audit findings and make recommendations to improve individual or establishment's accounting and management practices
Conduct field audits of businesses to ensure compliance with provisions of the Income Tax Act, Canadian Business Corporations Act or other statutory requirements
May supervise other auditors or professionals in charge of accounting within client's establishment.
Accountants perform some or all of the following duties:
Plan, set up and administer accounting systems and prepare financial information for an individual, department, company or other establishment
Examine accounting records and prepare financial statements and reports
Develop and maintain cost finding, reporting and internal control procedures
Examine financial accounts and records and prepare income tax returns from accounting records
Analyze financial statements and reports and provide financial, business and tax advice
May act as a trustee in bankruptcy proceedings
May supervise and train articling students, other accountants or administrative technicians.
Employment requirements

Chartered accountants require a university degree
and
Completion of a professional training program approved by a provincial institute of chartered accountants and, depending on the province, either two years or 30 months of on-the-job training
and
Membership in a provincial Institute of Chartered Accountants upon successful completion of the Uniform Evaluation (UFE).
Certified general accountants and certified management accountants require a university degree
and
Completion of a training program approved by the Society of Certified General Accountants or Society of Management Accountants and several years of on-the-job training
and
Certification by the Certified General Accountants Association or the Society of Management Accountants.
Auditors require education, training and recognition as indicated for chartered accountants, certified general accountants or certified management accountants
and
Some experience as an accountant.
Auditors may require recognition by the Institute of Internal Auditors.
To act as a trustee in bankruptcy proceedings, auditors and accountants must hold a licence as a trustee in bankruptcy.
Licensing by the provincial or territorial governing body is usually required for accountants and auditors practising public accounting.

May supervise other auditors or professionals in charge of accounting within client's establishment.
May supervise and train articling students, other accountants or administrative technicians.

The one in green looks supervisor one's but I do not think you need managerial for 1111

 

[sikanderkhan]

Thank you all for the help..
However, more help is still welcome