I’m landed immigrant since 8/2010 and I was working as Financial Manager at my home country. All that I got in Canada is Security Guard job. My question is: If I stayed till 3 years (1095 Days) and applied to the Citizenship thru lawyer, then I will leave Canada and to get a suitable job at Gulf, is it acceptable or it may cause a problem/delay?
What if I travelled to Gulf countries after citizenship application?
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basharar said:
I think he hasn't yet completed the 3 yr (residency) sentence. Yes, a lot of people feel just like you, locked up in a prison, the world's biggest prison called CANADA. LOL. If you leave after submitting your CIT app, there's a high chance you'll get a RQ. So expect a delay...of not months but years these days. Why don't you plan to stick around a little longer until you get your CA passport?
i would suggest you wait until you got your citizenship before you leave. CIC will check your passport when you take the citizenship test. if they think you are not planning to settle in canada, they can refuse your application. it happened before, the worst part is once you got rejected, they may ask you to completely recount your time. you already waited three years, why not just wait a bit more to avoid the risk of losing big.
I have never heard of somebody who passed the test and was refused because they live in a foreign country. After all, you can always say it is just a temporary contract.
However, it could happen that if you fail your test and must interview for your citizenship that they will look at your ties to Canada and refuse you if you seem to be settled overseas.
As for having to do your 3 years again, you must stay 3 out of 4 years to apply and if you have left right away after applying and your application takes a year+ as they usually do, you have been outside Canada so long that you can not count your 3 years stay any more as a part of your new stay so that is why you would have to stay 3 years again.
However, it could happen that if you fail your test and must interview for your citizenship that they will look at your ties to Canada and refuse you if you seem to be settled overseas.
As for having to do your 3 years again, you must stay 3 out of 4 years to apply and if you have left right away after applying and your application takes a year+ as they usually do, you have been outside Canada so long that you can not count your 3 years stay any more as a part of your new stay so that is why you would have to stay 3 years again.
the thing is if the citizenship was refused based on the applicant cannot prove 3 years residence in the first application, then they won't be able to raise that three years again in the subsequent application as the whole 3 years was in doubt. unless the reason for refusal was just not enough days, but the days counted were clearly established. in that case, they can whatever the residence period still applicable used in the 1st application for their subsequent application.
MazenCPA said:
Preferably keep a Canadian address for your application. You can get one by UPS if you don't have any friends or family in Canada.
As for renewing PR, you normally have to be in Canada to renew it. There is a loophole that says you do not have to physically be in Canada yourself but your application must originate in Canada. Therefore, you could fill out the application to renew your PR, give a Canadian mailing address and have somebody mail this application for you from inside Canada. Currently, 90% of the renewed PR cards are being mailed out so if you are lucky, you would not have to come and pick up the card. If you do have to come pick it up, note that if your PR card is actually expired by that time, you would have to get a travel document to return and this can take time, depending on the embassy. You can however apply well in advance of your PR card expiring.
MazenCPA said:
Hi,
Though I dont want to contradict respectable member Leon and dont claim to have more info in this regard though would like to differ from him.Brother previously really it was not difficult to get citizenship even residing abroad ,after applying but due to many illegitimate applicants who actually resided in Middle East and did complete their 1095 period in CA but got citizenships with the help of some crooked consultants.Recently CIC has started crack down against these fake and even legitimate applicants who have got any Middle East/US connection in terms of work.
If you will a valid ME visa in your passport you are most likely to receive RQ at the time of test, which could not only prolong your case upto years but could also prove very harmful regarding approval of your case as if you see a citizenship judge it ll be difficult for you to convince him about your future intentions of residence in Canada.
As explained by Leon renewing your PR card will be another big hassle and remember nowadays its taking around 6-8 months for the renewal.CIC is nowadays issuing tons of RQs to all applicants about whom they have slightest doubt ,and having US/ME work visa is one of the biggest triggers of RQ.
My sincere advice for you will be DO NOT go for ME work visa before getting citizenship as it could throw your case into an endless waiting period .Regarding recent RQs and some of the reasons of it plz visit the following topic :
http://www.immigration.ca/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9850&KW=&PID=172375&title=mississauga-rq-before-citizenship-test#172375
Hope it helps, wish you all the best!
newcomer said:
I actually agree with you though. It would be far less complicated to stay in Canada until you get citizenship.
Note that there is nothing in the immigration rules that says they are allowed to refuse you citizenship if you have spent 1095 days in Canada that you can prove even if you have moved away. However, if you get an RQ and I agree that an RQ would be more likely to happen if you are living overseas and if you are unable to prove your 1095 days, they may look at your ties to Canada in which case living overseas can become a problem. Same if you fail the exam and I have already mentioned that on this thread.
Thank you all for your responses.
How to arrange the UPS address? will they forward me the mails? what if the CIC called by phone?
What if registered Canadian corporation (after completing the 1095 days and submitting the citizenchip application) and worked in the Gulf but paid the annual taxes for the CRA?
How to arrange the UPS address? will they forward me the mails? what if the CIC called by phone?
What if registered Canadian corporation (after completing the 1095 days and submitting the citizenchip application) and worked in the Gulf but paid the annual taxes for the CRA?
MazenCPA said:
You go to UPS, tell them you want to arrange an address with forwarding to your overseas address, you pay, that is pretty much it.
You would let CIC know that you are leaving the country and that you have a secure mailing address at your UPS address and you phone number will no longer work unless you give them your foreign number or use an online service to make yourself a Canadian phone number.
The idea is not to make immigration think that you are still staying in Canada. This would be misrepresentation. The idea is only to make it easier for immigration to contact you by keeping a Canadian address.
If you get a job working for a Canadian employer who transfers you to the Gulf, this could help you show ties to Canada if needed as well as your days there would count in order to preserve your PR status even if your citizenship does not work out. Those days would however not count for citizenship if you have problems proving your days and need to add more days.
these days even being sent oversea by canadian company could be very risky. The immigration would ask questions such as if the permanent resident come back to canada, would this position still be available in Canada? and also they would question the size of the company and business nature of the company, including the nature of the job such as if the job is really a canadian function or foreign function? there was actually a PR from China hired by municipal government of montreal to perform a job in china. due to the job nature is only a chinese function, that PR's status renewal was refused by CIC and her subsequent appeal to federal court was also denied. The safest way is to live in canada until you become citizen because you don't want the determination your permanent resident status fell on to CIC officer's interpretation of the law. god forbidden if your interpretation of the law is different from theirs.
ZYXWVU98 said:
I agree. Don't move abroad until you get your citizenship. Don't move around even in Canada, looking for sh*ty jobs. It's not good to change your address every six month or every year. Try to live in the same address for the entire four year period, and be ready to provide solid evidence for your 3 yr physical presence in Canada.
Leon said:
Thanks very much Leon once again,that type of greatness could be only expected by a great member like you.
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