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Trying to sponsor my Dependents

brianmich

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Mar 8, 2011
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july 28,2011
Doc's Request.
prior to submission
AOR Received.
october 13,2011
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augut 2,2011
Passport Req..
dated (oct.17)-nov.25 (passport sent )-nov 28 passport received manila
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I have been here in Canada for 2 years now and I would like to sponsor my 2 sons. They were included in my application as non accompanying and I would like to have them here. I tried to get the same lawyer we had when we were processing my papers to come here but my lawyer said we'd have to go back to square one and it's just bizarre because I don't understand why they required to have my sons have medicals with me with my application and then my lawyer said that we have to use a different application file number. I'm just confused because I think my lawyer is trying to scam me. Please enlighten me. Thanks
 

truesmile

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18-07-2012
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24-07-2012
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18-05-2012
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05-12-2012
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08-01-2013
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02-02-2013
It's true, you do have submit a new application for them. But your English sounds fine to me, just get the forms and The Guide (detailed instructions) off CIC's website and file the application on your own. IMO only someone who cannot understand English (or French) should require assistance with the forms. Also, you can ask your questions here.

Good luck!
 

brianmich

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Mar 8, 2011
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butuan city
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
july 28,2011
Doc's Request.
prior to submission
AOR Received.
october 13,2011
File Transfer...
augut 2,2011
Passport Req..
dated (oct.17)-nov.25 (passport sent )-nov 28 passport received manila
VISA ISSUED...
May 2012
LANDED..........
May 2012
truesmile said:
It's true, you do have submit a new application for them. But your English sounds fine to me, just get the forms and The Guide (detailed instructions) off CIC's website and file the application on your own. IMO only someone who cannot understand English (or French) should require assistance with the forms. Also, you can ask your questions here.

Good luck!
Thanks my lawyer is trying to rip me off he is charging two lawyer fees for my 2 boys.
 

Alurra71

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Oct 5, 2012
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Ontario
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07-12-2012
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21-01-2013
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waived
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28-11-2013
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19-12-2013
brianmich said:
Thanks my lawyer is trying to rip me off he is charging two lawyer fees for my 2 boys.
You will need to file 2 separate applications. One for each boy.
 

taffy7

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May 23, 2013
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09 June 2014 same doc's requested again 6th Oct 2014. docs not needed again mistake by cic
AOR Received.
sponsorship approval 05 Aug 2014
File Transfer...
05 Aug 2014
Med's Request
28 July 2015
Med's Done....
30th Dec 2013
Passport Req..
in process 18th July 2015/ DM 5/12/2015
LANDED..........
28/12/2015
So why do we bother doing all the paper work for a non accompanying dependent if we have to do it all again. OR is their age locked in so they can come at any age as long as they are not married or in a commonlaw relationship.
 

screech339

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17-06-2013
taffy7 said:
So why do we bother doing all the paper work for a non accompanying dependent if we have to do it all again. OR is their age locked in so they can come at any age as long as they are not married or in a commonlaw relationship.
Don't work that way. The age is locked in when their application are submitted. Not when PR sponsorship are submitted when they are non accompanied.
 

Alurra71

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taffy7 said:
So why do we bother doing all the paper work for a non accompanying dependent if we have to do it all again. OR is their age locked in so they can come at any age as long as they are not married or in a commonlaw relationship.
Because realistically you are not doing all the paperwork when non accompanying. You fill out a minor detail sheet listing the child, have a medical done and that's it. Unless the child is 18 years of age or older and then you are closer to 'all' of the paperwork being filled out because you usually have to include a PCC, but even then for non accompanying I am not sure it is required.
 

taffy7

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May 23, 2013
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09 June 2014 same doc's requested again 6th Oct 2014. docs not needed again mistake by cic
AOR Received.
sponsorship approval 05 Aug 2014
File Transfer...
05 Aug 2014
Med's Request
28 July 2015
Med's Done....
30th Dec 2013
Passport Req..
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28/12/2015
Alurra71 said:
Because realistically you are not doing all the paperwork when non accompanying. You fill out a minor detail sheet listing the child, have a medical done and that's it. Unless the child is 18 years of age or older and then you are closer to 'all' of the paperwork being filled out because you usually have to include a PCC, but even then for non accompanying I am not sure it is required.
PCC is required family information form , declaration form ,medical. passport,birth certificate, immigration photos letter stating why he doesn't want to come.I would say that's a lot considering he's not coming. The only other thing was proof of relationship which his father had to provide for us as a couple.
 

taffy7

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May 23, 2013
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Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10th April 2014/June 10th 2014 application complete
Doc's Request.
09 June 2014 same doc's requested again 6th Oct 2014. docs not needed again mistake by cic
AOR Received.
sponsorship approval 05 Aug 2014
File Transfer...
05 Aug 2014
Med's Request
28 July 2015
Med's Done....
30th Dec 2013
Passport Req..
in process 18th July 2015/ DM 5/12/2015
LANDED..........
28/12/2015
screech339 said:
Don't work that way. The age is locked in when their application are submitted. Not when PR sponsorship are submitted when they are non accompanied.
By the time my husband gets his PR ( if we get approved) his son will be 22.So say he changed his mind and wanted to come 2 years later we would have to send in a new application and my husband and i sponsor him..I can't quite get my head around this one..it fuzzy lol
 

Rob_TO

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Nov 7, 2012
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N/R - Exempt
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30-10-2012
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16-11-2012
taffy7 said:
So why do we bother doing all the paper work for a non accompanying dependent if we have to do it all again. OR is their age locked in so they can come at any age as long as they are not married or in a commonlaw relationship.
Circumstances and details can change, so a new application is needed. A non-accompanying dependent needs to still go through the whole process the first time, just to make sure they are eligible to be sponsored in the future.

Age is only locked in between submitting a PR application, and the time it takes to get PR issued to the main applicant. After that time, if a dependent was non-accompanying, they will only qualify to be sponsored in the future under a brand new PR application until they turn 22, or they finish full time school. Once they are no longer classified as a dependent, a previously non-accompanying dependent can NO LONGER be sponsored, ever.

Also note there is a rule change potentially coming that would lower dependent age to age 18 and under only, with no clause for full time school.

taffy7 said:
By the time my husband gets his PR ( if we get approved) his son will be 22.So say he changed his mind and wanted to come 2 years later we would have to send in a new application and my husband and i sponsor him..I can't quite get my head around this one..it fuzzy lol
Is he an accompanying or non-accompanying dependent? His age is only locked in until your husband gets his PR. If he was non-accompanying so doesn't get PR with your husband, then after that as I mentioned above he will only be able to get PR status if he is still classified as dependent when he wants to apply.
If he's 24 at that time and no longer in full time school, or the rule for dependents has changed to under 19 years old, then he can never be sponsored.

And to the OP, don't waste money on a lawyer. Sponsoring children is much simpler than spouses, and the paperwork is pretty straightforward.
 

taffy7

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May 23, 2013
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Pre-Assessed..
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10th April 2014/June 10th 2014 application complete
Doc's Request.
09 June 2014 same doc's requested again 6th Oct 2014. docs not needed again mistake by cic
AOR Received.
sponsorship approval 05 Aug 2014
File Transfer...
05 Aug 2014
Med's Request
28 July 2015
Med's Done....
30th Dec 2013
Passport Req..
in process 18th July 2015/ DM 5/12/2015
LANDED..........
28/12/2015
Thank you Rob.I never knew we could not sponsor him ever . So my thinking cap is on and i'm wondering if it is best to have him come ,land and go home and if he changes his mind in the next two years he can come back and four fill his obligation for PR. I don't want to have him never have the chance to come.This is a great country and he is young, i want him to least have the opportunity later in life..

OP how old are your children?
 

Rob_TO

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Nov 7, 2012
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Med's Done....
Sent with App
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N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
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16-11-2012
taffy7 said:
Thank you Rob.I never knew we could not sponsor him ever . So my thinking cap is on and i'm wondering if it is best to have him come ,land and go home and if he changes his mind in the next two years he can come back and four fill his obligation for PR. I don't want to have him never have the chance to come.This is a great country and he is young, i want him to least have the opportunity later in life..
That does seem like the better option. I assume he's 21 years old now, so is in you app as a type A dependent. If you make him an accompanying dependent, then once him and your husband are approved for PR they will both get COPRs. He must then "land" in Canada as PR, but can immediately return to home country for whatever reason, and stay there up to 3 years before he can decide to return back to Canada to maintain the 2-in-5 years PR obligation.