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I would like to know if I can apply the ontario health card even I will be out of the country for 2 years?
Can I apply health card on behalf of my wife and daughter? without their presence?
I just want to make sure that I have things ready once we decided to settle in canada.
Pls i need your advice...tnx ;)
 
denDbest said:
I would like to know if I can apply the ontario health card even I will be out of the country for 2 years?
Can I apply health card on behalf of my wife and daughter? without their presence?
I just want to make sure that I have things ready once we decided to settle in canada.
Pls i need your advice...tnx ;)
It is better to not start life on a wrong note, wait for the time till you finally decide to move to Canada. Physical presence is required to apply for health card.
 
If you are going to be out of Canada for 2 years, then you will not qualify for health care coverage as soon as you return to Canada. Once you return to Canada to live there permanently, you will have to wait for three months before you will have health care coverage. You should wait until you have returned to Canada permanently before you apply. You cannot apply on your wife's behalf.
 
denDbest said:
I would like to know if I can apply the ontario health card even I will be out of the country for 2 years?
Can I apply health card on behalf of my wife and daughter? without their presence?
I just want to make sure that I have things ready once we decided to settle in canada.
Pls i need your advice...tnx ;)
This link explains well about OHIP - health Card

http://settlement.org/sys/faqs_detail.asp?k=HEALTHINS_CARD&faq_id=4001242
 
wilson said:
This link explains well about OHIP - health Card

http://settlement.org/sys/faqs_detail.asp?k=HEALTHINS_CARD&faq_id=4001242
dear Wilson, what does the following line mean in the link you attached !
"You must also be physically present in Ontario for 153 days of the first 183 days after the day you apply for OHIP."
 
It means exactly what it says:

In the first 6 months (183 days) after you've applied, you can't be away from Ontario for longer than 1 month (30 days). In other words, you must be physically present in Ontario 5 months (153 days = 183 days - 20 days) out of the 6 months following your first-time application.

Afterwords, you must be present for at least 5 months (153 days) in any 12-month period (365 days) to be eligible for coverage under OHIP.

Please not that the information in months is just for clarification purposes. Your OHIP eligibility is determined by the the exact number of days rather than months.

To sum up, you are not eligible and shouldn't apply now, considering your situation and plans as described.
 
banrad said:
It means exactly what it says:

In the first 6 months (183 days) after you've applied, you can't be away from Ontario for longer than 1 month (30 days). In other words, you must be physically present in Ontario 5 months (153 days = 183 days - 20 days) out of the 6 months following your first-time application.

Afterwords, you must be present for at least 5 months (153 days) in any 12-month period (365 days) to be eligible for coverage under OHIP.

Please not that the information in months is just for clarification purposes. Your OHIP eligibility is determined by the the exact number of days rather than months.

To sum up, you are not eligible and shouldn't apply now, considering your situation and plans as described.
thanks for explaining. But where to place this para
"You can apply for OHIP as soon as you have the documents you need. But you will not get a Health Card and your coverage will not start until you become eligible (after 3 months)."
It says I can apply anytime and become eligible after three months for OHIP !!
 
Hi Hasni - Cutting sentences out of context won't help you. You can apply anytime if you are/will be eligible at the time of receiving your OHIP card. If that's the case, go ahead with your OHIP application.

The pages Wilson provided the link to are a simplified set of rules to help you understand the system. If you want to determine your eligibility with certainty, go to the official pages of the Ministry to peruse the guidelines and laws.
http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/publications/ohip/ohip_eligibility.aspx

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OHIP Eligibility
Am I eligible for Ontario health insurance coverage?

You may be eligible for the Ontario Health Insurance Plan (OHIP) if you are included under one of the following categories:

you are a Canadian citizen, permanent resident or landed immigrant, or are registered as an Indian under the Indian Act;
you have submitted an application for permanent residence in Canada, and Citizenship and Immigration Canada has confirmed that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence in Canada ;
you have applied for a grant of citizenship under section 5.1 of the Citizenship Act (Canada), and Citizenship and Immigration Canada has confirmed that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for citizenship (i.e., children adopted internationally by Canadian citizens);
you are a "protected person" - i.e. a Convention Refugee or a person in need of protection;
you are a foreign worker who holds a valid work permit or other document issued by Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) permitting you to work in Canada, and you also have a formal agreement in place to work full-time for an employer situated in Ontario which sets out the employer's name, your occupation, and confirmation that you will be working for no less than six consecutive months;
you are a member of the clergy who is legally entitled to stay in Canada and will be providing services to a religious congregation in Ontario for at least six months;
you hold a Temporary Resident Permit with case type 80 (for adoption only), 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94 or 95;
you are the spouse, or dependent child (under 22 years old or 22 years and over if dependent due to a mental or physical disability) of an OHIP-eligible member of the clergy or OHIP-eligible foreign worker;
you hold a valid work permit under the federal Live-in Caregiver Program;
you hold a valid work permit under the federal Seasonal Agricultural Worker Program;

And

you make your primary place of residence in Ontario; and generally,
you are in Ontario for at least 153 days of the first 183 days immediately following the date you establish residence in Ontario (you cannot be absent for more than 30 days during the first 6 months of residence); and
you are in Ontario for at least 153 days in any 12-month period.

Tourists, transients or visitors are not eligible for OHIP coverage.

Your eligibility for Ontario health insurance coverage is based solely on:

you having one of the above OHIP-eligible citizenship or immigration statuses, and
you making your primary place of residence in Ontario, and
meeting the physical presence requirements.


For more details about OHIP eligibility refer to Regulation 552 of Ontario's Health Insurance Act at www.e-laws.gov.on.ca.
 
banrad said:
Hi Hasni - Cutting sentences out of context won't help you. You can apply anytime if you are/will be eligible at the time of receiving your OHIP card. If that's the case, go ahead with your OHIP application.

The pages Wilson provided the link to are a simplified set of rules to help you understand the system. If you want to determine your eligibility with certainty, go to the official pages of the Ministry to peruse the guidelines and laws.
http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/publications/ohip/ohip_eligibility.aspx

******
OHIP Eligibility
Am I eligible for Ontario health insurance coverage?

You may be eligible for the Ontario Health Insurance Plan (OHIP) if you are included under one of the following categories:

you are a Canadian citizen, permanent resident or landed immigrant, or are registered as an Indian under the Indian Act;
you have submitted an application for permanent residence in Canada, and Citizenship and Immigration Canada has confirmed that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence in Canada ;
you have applied for a grant of citizenship under section 5.1 of the Citizenship Act (Canada), and Citizenship and Immigration Canada has confirmed that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for citizenship (i.e., children adopted internationally by Canadian citizens);
you are a "protected person" - i.e. a Convention Refugee or a person in need of protection;
you are a foreign worker who holds a valid work permit or other document issued by Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) permitting you to work in Canada, and you also have a formal agreement in place to work full-time for an employer situated in Ontario which sets out the employer's name, your occupation, and confirmation that you will be working for no less than six consecutive months;
you are a member of the clergy who is legally entitled to stay in Canada and will be providing services to a religious congregation in Ontario for at least six months;
you hold a Temporary Resident Permit with case type 80 (for adoption only), 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94 or 95;
you are the spouse, or dependent child (under 22 years old or 22 years and over if dependent due to a mental or physical disability) of an OHIP-eligible member of the clergy or OHIP-eligible foreign worker;
you hold a valid work permit under the federal Live-in Caregiver Program;
you hold a valid work permit under the federal Seasonal Agricultural Worker Program;

And

you make your primary place of residence in Ontario; and generally,
you are in Ontario for at least 153 days of the first 183 days immediately following the date you establish residence in Ontario (you cannot be absent for more than 30 days during the first 6 months of residence); and
you are in Ontario for at least 153 days in any 12-month period.

Tourists, transients or visitors are not eligible for OHIP coverage.

Your eligibility for Ontario health insurance coverage is based solely on:

you having one of the above OHIP-eligible citizenship or immigration statuses, and
you making your primary place of residence in Ontario, and
meeting the physical presence requirements.


For more details about OHIP eligibility refer to Regulation 552 of Ontario's Health Insurance Act at www.e-laws.gov.on.ca.
appreciate your clarification but one can simply see that they have laid out two different benchmarks out there. In the first para, You get a card and become eligible after three months, means you can avail your health coverage after three months rightaway, ami right !! Now in the second para, criteria of eligibility changes altogether !! Pretty confusing I must say :( But I am sure eligibility criteria of three months prevails largely. Please correct me if I am wrong.