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Heppster

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Sep 3, 2013
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London
Job Offer........
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App. Filed.......
29-07-2013
AOR Received.
15-08-2013
File Transfer...
26-08-2013
Med's Done....
15-07-2013
It looks as if there is a Typo on the Spreadsheet. Correct me if I am wrong.

CDAN's timelime from "Application received in Mississauga" (March 27) to "Decision Made" (November 25) should not be 359 days as is written under "Total time to process" It should be 243. There may be other errors as well but this is one I noticed rather quickly. I am not sure if this affects the Average Processing Time that is calculated, but it may be skewing the results a bit.

I was also thinking that because there is often very different timelines from DM to delivery of (correct) COPR (as is the case with ghunter and Zardoz), should we also track that as well? Just a thought.

Heppster
 

ghunter

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Feb 4, 2013
192
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Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-04-2013
AOR Received.
03-05-2013
File Transfer...
16-05-2013
Med's Done....
05-03-2013
VISA ISSUED...
19-10-2013; re-issued 16-12-2013
LANDED..........
08-01-2014
zardoz said:
I would strongly suggest that when all this is over, you apply for your GCMS notes via ATIP and find out exactly what the hell was going on..

I received mine yesterday and I have to say that it was very obvious that they started to screw up on mine from almost day 1. Rather than detecting the error, they just blindly propagated it all the way through until the faulty COPR arrived on my doorstep.
I ordered the GCSM notes basically the minute that they emailed me telling me the new document was sent. In a way I don't even want to see the notes, the incompetency at London has been unimaginable, but I am so curious as to what they were doing for the 45 days it took to re-issue...

Heppster said:
It looks as if there is a Typo on the Spreadsheet. Correct me if I am wrong.

CDAN's timelime from "Application received in Mississauga" (March 27) to "Decision Made" (November 25) should not be 359 days as is written under "Total time to process" It should be 243. There may be other errors as well but this is one I noticed rather quickly. I am not sure if this affects the Average Processing Time that is calculated, but it may be skewing the results a bit.

I was also thinking that because there is often very different timelines from DM to delivery of (correct) COPR (as is the case with ghunter and Zardoz), should we also track that as well? Just a thought.

Heppster
I think a COPR arrival time might be a good idea, but it is complicated with everyone living all over the place - might be a unreliable statistic for that. If there is a way to do it I think it could be very valuable, I ended up stalking my mail man way earlier than needed. Perhaps other spreadsheet admins have some comments?
 

markstimson

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Aug 24, 2011
80
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Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-02-2013
File Transfer...
22-03-2013
VISA ISSUED...
02-10-2013
ghunter said:
I think a COPR arrival time might be a good idea, but it is complicated with everyone living all over the place - might be a unreliable statistic for that. If there is a way to do it I think it could be very valuable, I ended up stalking my mail man way earlier than needed. Perhaps other spreadsheet admins have some comments?
There are often people asking how long it took other people to receive their COPR in certain geographies. We could add 3 columns. 1. Country of application. 2. City. 3. Number of days between DM and COPR arrival. This won't be perfect but it could give an idea, or else we carry on as we are.
 

Becki567

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Aug 8, 2013
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Sherwood Park, Alberta
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-09-2013
AOR Received.
27-09-2013
File Transfer...
30-09-2013
Med's Done....
09-09-2013
VISA ISSUED...
15-04-2014
LANDED..........
13-05-2014
I have a question about ordering these notes.

I would like to order them at the right time to help determine if we are on the "should be interviewed" list or not. I have seen others who have ordered the notes and knew they would not be called for an interview from the notes in the report BEFORE a decision was made.

The reason I would like to know this is to just help prepare. My husband is in Canada with me so it would require last minute (potentially expensive) flights. Also, we are aware that an interview may be called we will have an idea where their concern is. I have seen people who did not have time to receive their notes before their interview.

So I want to order them. But am not sure WHEN to order them that would be most beneficial. Also, can they see that we have ordered notes and does that penalize or change their view at all?

Thanks for you help.
 

Sweden

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Mar 31, 2012
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Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12/04/2012
File Transfer...
13/07/2012
Med's Done....
02/02/2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
05/11/12, received in Canada 19/11/12
LANDED..........
24/11/12, PR card received 30/01/12
Becki567 said:
I have a question about ordering these notes.

I would like to order them at the right time to help determine if we are on the "should be interviewed" list or not. I have seen others who have ordered the notes and knew they would not be called for an interview from the notes in the report BEFORE a decision was made.

The reason I would like to know this is to just help prepare. My husband is in Canada with me so it would require last minute (potentially expensive) flights. Also, we are aware that an interview may be called we will have an idea where their concern is. I have seen people who did not have time to receive their notes before their interview.

So I want to order them. But am not sure WHEN to order them that would be most beneficial. Also, can they see that we have ordered notes and does that penalize or change their view at all?

Thanks for you help.
it won't penalize you - as long as you order the electronic version. If you order the physical notes, they have to pull your file from whatever queue it is in, and that creates delay. but electronic notes is fine.

When to order? difficult to say. I would say, roughly you can order them maybe after 3 to 4 months of being approved as a sponsor, London should have started opening your file at that point, and you might have some initial notes. As you're in Canada, as well as your husband, it's free ( he should be the one ordering, as a sponsor you won't learn much about your file, it's the notes on the applicant's file that has the information). So if you want, you can order a set now, and one in 6 weeks to see if something has changed...

Sweden
 

Sweden

VIP Member
Mar 31, 2012
4,186
178
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12/04/2012
File Transfer...
13/07/2012
Med's Done....
02/02/2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
05/11/12, received in Canada 19/11/12
LANDED..........
24/11/12, PR card received 30/01/12
Heppster said:
It looks as if there is a Typo on the Spreadsheet. Correct me if I am wrong.

CDAN's timelime from "Application received in Mississauga" (March 27) to "Decision Made" (November 25) should not be 359 days as is written under "Total time to process" It should be 243. There may be other errors as well but this is one I noticed rather quickly. I am not sure if this affects the Average Processing Time that is calculated, but it may be skewing the results a bit.
thanks for noticing. I've corrected the mistake and added a few formulas in the columns calculating (for 2013, didn't change anything for 2012) the total time for sponsor approval, 2nd stage, and process. Should make it a little easier.
I haven't touched any of the average calculations as I wasn't involved in the original set up and do not want to mess it up!.
Sweden
 

Becki567

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Aug 8, 2013
501
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124
Sherwood Park, Alberta
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-09-2013
AOR Received.
27-09-2013
File Transfer...
30-09-2013
Med's Done....
09-09-2013
VISA ISSUED...
15-04-2014
LANDED..........
13-05-2014
Sweden said:
it won't penalize you - as long as you order the electronic version. If you order the physical notes, they have to pull your file from whatever queue it is in, and that creates delay. but electronic notes is fine.

When to order? difficult to say. I would say, roughly you can order them maybe after 3 to 4 months of being approved as a sponsor, London should have started opening your file at that point, and you might have some initial notes. As you're in Canada, as well as your husband, it's free ( he should be the one ordering, as a sponsor you won't learn much about your file, it's the notes on the applicant's file that has the information). So if you want, you can order a set now, and one in 6 weeks to see if something has changed...

Sweden
Thank you for your reply. I had my husband use this link that I found in the forum - https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/
But it says you have to be a citizen or a permanent resident to use it. Which would then mean only I could use it.
 

Becki567

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Aug 8, 2013
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Sherwood Park, Alberta
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Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-09-2013
AOR Received.
27-09-2013
File Transfer...
30-09-2013
Med's Done....
09-09-2013
VISA ISSUED...
15-04-2014
LANDED..........
13-05-2014
Becki567 said:
Thank you for your reply. I had my husband use this link that I found in the forum - https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/
But it says you have to be a citizen or a permanent resident to use it. Which would then mean only I could use it.
I chose the person in Canada option. He filled out everything but it still charged him $5 so I dunno
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Becki567 said:
I chose the person in Canada option. He filled out everything but it still charged him $5 so I dunno
Ah.. He didn't use the Privacy Act option. That's why.

Credit card, if your request is being made under the Access to Information Act:
There is a $5.00 application fee for these requests. (There are no fees under the Privacy Act).
 

CDAN

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Sep 6, 2013
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I'm not sure if anyone knows the answer, but once you land are you able to travel to the us before your pr card arrival?
 

canuck_in_uk

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May 4, 2012
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06/12
CDAN said:
I'm not sure if anyone knows the answer, but once you land are you able to travel to the us before your pr card arrival?
Yes. As a visa-exempt person, you can travel to Canada on just the strength of your passport. When you get to Canadian immigration, just tell them you haven't received your card yet, they will swipe your passport and bring up your PR details.
 

Becki567

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Aug 8, 2013
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Sherwood Park, Alberta
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Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-09-2013
AOR Received.
27-09-2013
File Transfer...
30-09-2013
Med's Done....
09-09-2013
VISA ISSUED...
15-04-2014
LANDED..........
13-05-2014
zardoz said:
Ah.. He didn't use the Privacy Act option. That's why.
Shoot! Does that mean we won't get the notes? Have we just messed everything up?
 

ghunter

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Feb 4, 2013
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Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-04-2013
AOR Received.
03-05-2013
File Transfer...
16-05-2013
Med's Done....
05-03-2013
VISA ISSUED...
19-10-2013; re-issued 16-12-2013
LANDED..........
08-01-2014
Becki567 said:
Shoot! Does that mean we won't get the notes? Have we just messed everything up?
You will get the notes fine, I have been getting mine under the Access for Information Act all along and have recieved them all in the 30 days.

Seems to be the exact same, except one you need to pay for!
 

Becki567

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Aug 8, 2013
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Sherwood Park, Alberta
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-09-2013
AOR Received.
27-09-2013
File Transfer...
30-09-2013
Med's Done....
09-09-2013
VISA ISSUED...
15-04-2014
LANDED..........
13-05-2014
ghunter said:
You will get the notes fine, I have been getting mine under the Access for Information Act all along and have recieved them all in the 30 days.

Seems to be the exact same, except one you need to pay for!
Thank you!
 

Korma

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Sep 17, 2012
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Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-10-2012
File Transfer...
06-11-2012
Med's Done....
23-08-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
04-04-2013
LANDED..........
12-04-2013
Considering my file's been done for a while now, can I request my GCMS notes still? And can I get the physical files? While I'm at it, who's name do I request it under, me or the wife's (she was the sponsor)?

I never thought I'd ever order the notes, but I'm kind of curious now...